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  Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-12 16:45 -0700
    Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-05-13 09:57 +1000
      Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-12 21:08 -0700
        Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-05-13 15:47 +1000
          Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-15 07:44 -0700
            Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-05-16 07:44 +1000
              Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-24 17:36 -0700
                Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-05-25 18:34 +1000
                  Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-30 06:30 -0700
                    Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-05-31 08:56 +1000
                    Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-05-31 09:49 +0100
                Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? JoeyDee <joedid@outlook.com> - 2016-05-25 08:44 -0400
                  Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-05-26 09:07 +1000
            Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-15 14:47 -0700
              Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-24 17:50 -0700
        Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Kit <kitzyme@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-13 11:25 +0100
          Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 06:30 -0400
          Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-15 07:46 -0700
        Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? "Kurt V. Ullman" <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-13 08:36 -0400
        Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-05-15 14:37 +0200
          Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-15 07:47 -0700
            Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-05-15 17:58 +0200
              Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-15 15:45 -0700
            Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-05-16 07:20 +1000
              Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-15 15:51 -0700
                Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-05-16 12:04 +1200
                  Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-15 18:25 -0700
                    Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-15 21:37 -0400
                    Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-05-16 14:28 +1200
                Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-05-16 10:12 +1000
          Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-15 15:42 -0700
            Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-05-17 15:29 +0000
    Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-05-13 16:33 +0000
      Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-15 07:48 -0700
        Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-05-15 16:32 +0000
          Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-15 15:58 -0700
            Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-15 21:33 -0700
              Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-24 18:01 -0700
                Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-05-25 17:51 +1000
              Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-24 18:31 -0700
                Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-05-25 15:37 +0000
            Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-05-17 15:20 +0000
              Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-24 18:24 -0700
                Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-05-25 15:33 +0000
                  Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-30 06:50 -0700
                    Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-05-30 16:42 +0000
                      Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-05-31 15:20 +0000
                    Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-05-30 21:51 +0100
    Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2016-05-13 20:28 -0400
      Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-15 08:01 -0700
      Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-15 18:34 -0700
    Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2016-05-14 18:12 +0000
      Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2016-05-15 08:07 -0700
        Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Király <ggrandish@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 15:59 -0700
          Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-05-17 16:34 -0500
            Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Jim_Higgins <gordian240@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-17 18:16 -0400
              Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-05-18 22:31 -0500
                Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-05-19 06:01 +0000
                  Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-05-19 19:10 -0500
                Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2016-05-20 22:35 +0000
      Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Chris Barrus <quartzcity@gmail.com> - 2016-05-15 16:45 -0700
        Re: Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-05-17 15:38 +0000

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#35863

For your reference, records indicate that 
Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Imagine if you met someone at a cocktail party and he said to you, just 
> before walking away, "I find your tone, expectations and questions 
> boring, so I'm going to ignore you for the rest of the cocktail party 
> and every other cocktail party where I might see you."

I’d consider the possibility that he was right.  If so, I would work to 
correct the problems he articulated.  Given a chance in the future, I 
would thank him for his input, because it helped make me a better person.

What would you do?

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#35801

For your reference, records indicate that 
Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> If anyone feels that the questions are burdensome, they're free to leave.

And they do.  And then silly people post more silly questions like “Where 
did all the people go?”

> And I haven't been burdensome because over many years, I've brought up 
> a variety of salient issues and viewpoints that no one else has.

Then *that* is what your contributions have been.  Not “asking questions”.

> Also, by pointing out the flaws in Apple's and other companies' flaws, 
> I've helped to 'raise the bar' by challenge those companies to improve 
> and have suggested common sense ways that they can improve.

What big company bothers to monitor Usenet?  You’re fooling yourself if 
you think you’ve had any impact in that regard.

> Also I've been a steadfast leader in the fight for fairness, logic and 
> against online bullying.

That and a buck and a half will get you a ride on the Metro.  If you 
to have a substantial impact on the relevance of Usenet on the 
current Internet landscape, you’ll have to do more than simply behave 
in a civilized manner.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#35857

On 2016-05-17 15:20:14 +0000, Doc O'Leary said:

> For your reference, records indicate that
> Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> 
>> If anyone feels that the questions are burdensome, they're free to leave.
> 
> And they do.  And then silly people post more silly questions like “Where
> did all the people go?”

It's not a silly question.  And if Apple computers are "insanely great" 
as millions of the users claim, then why are the problems like my 
Itunes question so vexing and why are there no apparent solutions and 
why is Itunes so terribly designed?  I could have designed Itunes 
better myself, and I'm not even an interface designer.

>> And I haven't been burdensome because over many years, I've brought up
>> 
>> a variety of salient issues and viewpoints that no one else has.
> 
> Then *that* is what your contributions have been.  Not “asking questions”.

Yes, that is what I wrote.  It sounds like you're just repeating what I wrote.

>> Also, by pointing out the flaws in Apple's and other companies' flaws,
>> I've helped to 'raise the bar' by challenge those companies to improve
>> and have suggested common sense ways that they can improve.
> 
> What big company bothers to monitor Usenet?  You’re fooling yourself if
> you think you’ve had any impact in that regard.

Maybe, but I've noticed serveral times issues I brought up were 
sometimes cleared up by Apple and other companies soon after I brought 
them up.  Hundreds, thousands or even millions of people expressing 
their same problems simultaneously to the people in power can have a 
positive impact to effect change.

>> Also I've been a steadfast leader in the fight for fairness, logic and
>> against online bullying.
> 
> That and a buck and a half will get you a ride on the Metro.  If you
> to have a substantial impact on the relevance of Usenet on the
> current Internet landscape, you’ll have to do more than simply behave
> in a civilized manner.

See my above paragraph.

Tom Evans

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#35862

For your reference, records indicate that 
Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> On 2016-05-17 15:20:14 +0000, Doc O'Leary said:
> 
> > For your reference, records indicate that
> > Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> > 
> >> If anyone feels that the questions are burdensome, they're free to leave.
> > 
> > And they do.  And then silly people post more silly questions like “Where
> > did all the people go?”
> 
> It's not a silly question.  And if Apple computers are "insanely great" 
> as millions of the users claim, then why are the problems like my 
> Itunes question so vexing and why are there no apparent solutions and 
> why is Itunes so terribly designed?  I could have designed Itunes 
> better myself, and I'm not even an interface designer.

Your questions aren’t “vexing”, they’re just either unusual or possibly 
unread by the people who could answer them, or any one of a thousand 
other explanations why the world isn’t bending over backwards to help you.  
Stop with the victim mentality and start making the world a better place.  
What are *you* doing to give the world something better than iTunes?  What 
are *you* doing to increase the popularity of Usenet?

> > What big company bothers to monitor Usenet?  You’re fooling yourself if
> > you think you’ve had any impact in that regard.
> 
> Maybe, but I've noticed serveral times issues I brought up were 
> sometimes cleared up by Apple and other companies soon after I brought 
> them up.

Bwhahahaha!  Yeah.  I’ve also noticed that several times I’ve developed 
some software, and then Apple implements something similar soon after.  I 
suppose I could dream a smug little dream that they’re intently watching 
what I do and copying/stealing all my good ideas.  But the truth is more 
likely that the world is just a big place, and my ideas and your problems 
are simply shared by people much closer to Apple.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#35866

On 2016-05-25 15:33:03 +0000, Doc O'Leary said:

> For your reference, records indicate that
> Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> 
>> On 2016-05-17 15:20:14 +0000, Doc O'Leary said:
>> 
>>> For your reference, records indicate that
>>> Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If anyone feels that the questions are burdensome, they're free to leave.
>>> 
>>> And they do.  And then silly people post more silly questions like “Where
>>> did all the people go?”
>> 
>> It's not a silly question.  And if Apple computers are "insanely great"
>> as millions of the users claim, then why are the problems like my
>> Itunes question so vexing and why are there no apparent solutions and
>> why is Itunes so terribly designed?  I could have designed Itunes
>> better myself, and I'm not even an interface designer.
> 
> Your questions aren’t “vexing”,

What I meant was that my Itunes problem is vexing to me.

> they’re just either unusual or possibly
> unread by the people who could answer them, or any one of a thousand
> other explanations why the world isn’t bending over backwards to help you.
> Stop with the victim mentality

I don't have a victim mentality.

> and start making the world a better place.
> What are *you* doing to give the world something better than iTunes?

Nothing, because I'm not a developer.  Is it necessary that everyone 
who complains about a product or service be a developer or inventor?  
If I want to complain about my phone service, must I start my own phone 
provider service company instead of complaining?  That's a preposterous 
criticism.

> What
> are *you* doing to increase the popularity of Usenet?

By writing here, obviously.  Look at the length of this thread, for example

>>> What big company bothers to monitor Usenet?  You’re fooling yourself if
>>> you think you’ve had any impact in that regard.
>> 
>> Maybe, but I've noticed serveral times issues I brought up were
>> sometimes cleared up by Apple and other companies soon after I brought
>> them up.
> 
> Bwhahahaha!  Yeah.  I’ve also noticed that several times I’ve developed
> some software, and then Apple implements something similar soon after.  I
> suppose I could dream a smug little dream that they’re intently watching
> what I do and copying/stealing all my good ideas.  But the truth is more
> likely that the world is just a big place, and my ideas and your problems
> are simply shared by people much closer to Apple.

You edited out the part where I explained that large numbers of people 
can cause improvements.

Tom Evans

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#35867

For your reference, records indicate that 
Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> On 2016-05-25 15:33:03 +0000, Doc O'Leary said:
> 
> > Your questions aren’t “vexing”,
> 
> What I meant was that my Itunes problem is vexing to me.

And yet what you seem most interested in doing is complaining about the 
general lack of messages here.  Hell, I don’t even have any idea what 
problem you’re having with Usenet, because I don’t recall seeing the 
question and you never bother to describe it in any detail here, 
either.

Just because you have a problem that bothers you still doesn’t mean 
that anyone else is bothered by it, or cares that *you* are bothered by 
it.  The onus is on you to provide some incentive to change that.

> > they’re just either unusual or possibly
> > unread by the people who could answer them, or any one of a thousand
> > other explanations why the world isn’t bending over backwards to help you.
> > Stop with the victim mentality
> 
> I don't have a victim mentality.

Says the person who cries about bullies at the drop of a hat.  Again, 
it’s on *you* to change the nature of the conversation.

> > What are *you* doing to give the world something better than iTunes?
> 
> Nothing, because I'm not a developer.  Is it necessary that everyone 
> who complains about a product or service be a developer or inventor?  

I never said you had to be either, just that you had to do *something* 
to attract the interest of people who *do* have the skills you don’t 
have.  There are plenty of people I have gone out of my way to help 
here because they were just nice or had a history of being helpful 
themselves, and I certainly wouldn’t have turned down any offers of 
money.

> If I want to complain about my phone service, must I start my own phone 
> provider service company instead of complaining?

No, but you at least have to pay your bills.  And you should also be 
willing to follow up by being willing to either switch to another 
provider or do without service altogether.  There are countless other 
things you can do, too, before you are forced to roll your own 
solution.

> > What
> > are *you* doing to increase the popularity of Usenet?
> 
> By writing here, obviously.  Look at the length of this thread, for example

More messages doesn’t equate to increased popularity.  This thread is 
just a bunch of diehards given another chance to bemoan the decline of 
Usenet.  It does nothing to attract *new* people.  You want to do that, 
and at the same time get help for your problem?  Start a new thread 
with the subject “$100 to the first person who can solve my iTunes 
issue” and post a link to it on all the other social networks and/or 
web forums you visit.  *That* is doing something!

> You edited out the part where I explained that large numbers of people 
> can cause improvements.

Because it had nothing to do with Usenet.  There aren’t a large number 
of people here.  Based on my attempt to develop a new newsreader, there 
aren’t even 1000 who are willing to dig deep to keep it going on Apple 
platforms.  You want sheer numbers, go to Twitter or Facebook, where many 
companies *do* maintain an active presence (for some insane reason).

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#35872

For your reference, records indicate that 
Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:

> Hell, I don’t even have any idea what 
> problem you’re having with Usenet

That should have been iTunes, of course, not Usenet.  The fingers 
sometimes fly too fast.  :-)

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#35869

In article <2016053006503367288-tomevans9890@yahoo.ca>, Tom Evans
<tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>On 2016-05-25 15:33:03 +0000, Doc O'Leary said:

>I don't have a victim mentality.

Well you could have fooled the rest of us.

Are you still here, bleating on? How about you STFU, you're getting
very boring.

-- 
Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on
a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web,
when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another
computer, another word processor, or another network. -- Tim Berners-Lee

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#35721

Tom Evans wrote:
> Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now?
>
> There were previously dozens or scores of new messages every day.
>
> Tom Evans
>
  Well one reason is that as with most NNTP newsgroups PC Users take 
pleasure in disrupting legitimate questions Mac users may have. Often 
making fun and other action  Behavior that hasn't changed one iota in 30 
years. NNTP is the last bastion. Also many have migrated to other type 
Forums so older NNTP newsgroups are easily over run.

-- 
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.      "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net    mailto:pjonescet@comcast.net
http://phillipjones-cet.net/

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#35745

On 2016-05-14 00:28:54 +0000, PhillipJones said:

> Tom Evans wrote:
>> Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now?
>> 
>> There were previously dozens or scores of new messages every day.
>> 
>> Tom Evans
>> 
>   Well one reason is that as with most NNTP newsgroups PC Users take 
> pleasure in disrupting legitimate questions Mac users may have. Often 
> making fun and other action  Behavior that hasn't changed one iota in 
> 30 years. NNTP is the last bastion. Also many have migrated to other 
> type Forums so older NNTP newsgroups are easily over run.

This is ironic because I've been the victim in these Mac newsgroups of 
hateful bullying from fellow Mac users when I dared to disagree with 
them on various issues.

The Mac afficianados often gang up against Mac-users who dare to 
express differing opinions here , and then hyprocritcally accuse the 
challengers of being 'trolls', simply for holding different opinions 
from theirs.

So I find it ironic and hard to believe that such a staunch bunch of 
Mac users would wilt under the pressure of I.B.M.-compatible users to 
the point that they would give up contributing here.

(I've been a victim of this bullying on other types of newsgroups as 
well.  Internet bullying while hiding behind one's computer is of 
course a well-known phenomenon, unfortunately.)

Tom Evans

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#35765

On 2016-05-14 00:28:54 +0000, PhillipJones said:

> Tom Evans wrote:
>> Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now?
>> 
>> There were previously dozens or scores of new messages every day.
>> 
>> Tom Evans
>> 
>   Well one reason is that as with most NNTP newsgroups PC Users take 
> pleasure in disrupting legitimate questions Mac users may have. Often 
> making fun and other action  Behavior that hasn't changed one iota in 
> 30 years. NNTP is the last bastion. Also many have migrated to other 
> type Forums so older NNTP newsgroups are easily over run.

What are the other forums that the embattled Mac men have fled to, Philip?

Tom Evans

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#35725

Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now?

There are so few messages in all newsgroups now. Usenet has largely 
been abandoned for the web and social media. Most internet users these 
days don't even know what Usenet is. 

I used to love bc.cycling, we had excellent discussions there but it has 
been essentially dead since about 2007. I haven't found any decent 
replacement on the web or elsewhere for British Columbia cycling 
discussion.

At least c.s.m.apps and c.s.m.system are still somewhat active. 

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#35746

On 2016-05-14 18:12:12 +0000, Király said:

> Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> Why are there so few messages in these Mac newsgroups now?
> 
> There are so few messages in all newsgroups now. Usenet has largely
> been abandoned for the web and social media. Most internet users these
> days don't even know what Usenet is.
> 
> I used to love bc.cycling, we had excellent discussions there but it has
> been essentially dead since about 2007. I haven't found any decent
> replacement on the web or elsewhere for British Columbia cycling
> discussion.
> 
> At least c.s.m.apps and c.s.m.system are still somewhat active.

I've been using Usenet for many years and found that there never was a 
time when a big percentage of Mac users knew what Usenet was and is.

Maybe bc.cycling was destroyed by the trolling I.B.M.-compatible p.c. 
users, as another writer in this thread intimated they have decimated 
the Mac groups.  ;-)

Tom Evans

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#35785

On Sunday, May 15, 2016 at 8:07:05 AM UTC-7, Robert Lord wrote:
> I've been using Usenet for many years and found that there never was a 
> time when a big percentage of Mac users knew what Usenet was and is.

I said internet users, not Mac users. Back when the internet was still
text-based and accessed through terminal windows, Usenet was one of the main
pillars of the internet. Usenet, email, telnet, ftp, and gopher were all we
had, and we were happy, dammit! 

If you were on the internet far back enough, you knew about Usenet.
 
-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#35806

Király <ggrandish@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, May 15, 2016 at 8:07:05 AM UTC-7, Robert Lord wrote:
> > I've been using Usenet for many years and found that there never was a 
> > time when a big percentage of Mac users knew what Usenet was and is.

> I said internet users, not Mac users. Back when the internet was still
> text-based and accessed through terminal windows, Usenet was one of the main
> pillars of the internet. Usenet, email, telnet, ftp, and gopher were all we
> had, and we were happy, dammit! 

> If you were on the internet far back enough, you knew about Usenet.
>  
Ha, let's talk about BBSes before Internet was the thing. Remember 
FidoNet, door games, etc.? ;)
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#35807

On 5/17/16 5:34 PM, Ant wrote:
> Király <ggrandish@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 15, 2016 at 8:07:05 AM UTC-7, Robert Lord wrote:
>>> I've been using Usenet for many years and found that there never was a
>>> time when a big percentage of Mac users knew what Usenet was and is.
>
>> I said internet users, not Mac users. Back when the internet was still
>> text-based and accessed through terminal windows, Usenet was one of the main
>> pillars of the internet. Usenet, email, telnet, ftp, and gopher were all we
>> had, and we were happy, dammit!
>
>> If you were on the internet far back enough, you knew about Usenet.
>>
> Ha, let's talk about BBSes before Internet was the thing. Remember
> FidoNet, door games, etc.? ;)
>

Drop rod, get bird.

-- 
Hussein Obama working hard to destroy America

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#35815

Jim_Higgins <gordian240@hotmail.com> wrote:
...
> > Ha, let's talk about BBSes before Internet was the thing. Remember
> > FidoNet, door games, etc.? ;)
> >

> Drop rod, get bird.

I don't remember that reference. :/
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#35820

In message <sr-dnZA5zJTkrqDKnZ2dnUU7-LednZ2d@earthlink.com> 
  Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> Jim_Higgins <gordian240@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ...
>> > Ha, let's talk about BBSes before Internet was the thing. Remember
>> > FidoNet, door games, etc.? ;)
>> >

>> Drop rod, get bird.

> I don't remember that reference. :/

Zork-like text adventure games.

This specific line is aa reference to the original text adventure,
Colossal Cavern (which was mostly used to create Zork I II and III.

-- 
I'm Luke Skywalker, I'm here to rescue you.

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#35825

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <sr-dnZA5zJTkrqDKnZ2dnUU7-LednZ2d@earthlink.com> 
>   Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> > Jim_Higgins <gordian240@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > ...
> >> > Ha, let's talk about BBSes before Internet was the thing. Remember
> >> > FidoNet, door games, etc.? ;)
> >> >

> >> Drop rod, get bird.

> > I don't remember that reference. :/

> Zork-like text adventure games.

> This specific line is aa reference to the original text adventure,
> Colossal Cavern (which was mostly used to create Zork I II and III.

Ah. I never got into those text adventure games. I did play some MUD and 
IRC's turned based games (Rbot's Uno, Junkyard, etc.).
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#35830

Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> > Drop rod, get bird.
> 
> I don't remember that reference. :/

I remember playing that on a Radio Shack TRS-80 computer circa 1983. It 
was an Egyptian artifact pillaging game, IIRC. Every time you went to 
pick up the stupid bird statue it would animate and fly to the other 
side of the room. Turns out it was afraid of the sceptre you had been 
carrying. Drop sceptre, get bird, put bird in box, close box, get sceptre.

And yes, there of course is a web page for it, with links to play it 
online in an HTML5 CoCo emulator.

http://www.figmentfly.com/pyramid2000/pyramid.html

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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