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Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)?

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  Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-28 22:55 -0500
    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-29 00:01 -0400
      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-28 23:13 -0500
      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 08:01 -0500
        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-29 16:13 +0000
          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-29 12:17 -0400
            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-29 16:49 +0000
          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 12:56 -0500
            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-29 18:26 +0000
              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 14:26 -0500
                Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-29 23:18 +0000
                  Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 20:51 -0500
                    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 02:10 +0000
                      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 21:41 -0500
                        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 04:05 +0000
          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 13:58 -0500
            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-29 21:26 +0000
              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 16:34 -0500
                Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-29 22:48 +0000
                  Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 18:51 -0500
                    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-29 19:54 -0400
                      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 20:52 -0500
                    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 01:27 +0000
                      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 21:42 -0500
                        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 04:05 +0000
                          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 23:19 -0500
                        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-09-29 23:16 -0500
                          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 23:21 -0500
                            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 05:08 +0000
                              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-30 00:36 -0500
                                Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-09-30 01:08 -0500
                                  Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-30 03:14 -0500
                                    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-30 12:24 +0000
                                    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-09-30 10:03 -0500
                                      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 15:11 +0000
                                        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-30 16:46 -0500
                                          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 21:58 +0000
                                            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-30 17:00 -0500
                                              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-01 01:27 +0000
                                                Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-30 22:53 -0500
                                                  Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-01 04:08 +0000
                                                    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-01 00:25 -0500
                                                      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-01 01:42 -0400
                                                      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-01 06:02 +0000
                                                        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-01 01:29 -0500
                                                          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-01 06:36 +0000
                                                            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-01 16:12 -0500
                                                              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-01 21:26 +0000
                                                                Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-01 21:26 +0000
                                                                  Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-01 17:00 -0500
                                                        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-01 18:26 +0000
                                                          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-01 16:13 -0500
                                                            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-01 21:37 +0000
                                                              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-01 17:21 -0500
                                                                Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-01 22:49 +0000
                                                      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-01 13:33 +0000
                                                        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-01 18:27 +0000
                                                      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-01 11:06 -0400
                                                        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-01 18:29 +0000
                                                          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-01 16:17 -0500
                                                            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-01 21:32 +0000
                                                              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-01 17:23 -0500
                                                                Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-01 22:52 +0000
                                                                  Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-01 18:10 -0500
                                                                    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-01 20:48 -0500
                                                                      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-02 03:07 +0000
                                      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-30 11:17 -0400
                                        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 16:08 +0000
                                          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-30 12:24 -0400
                                            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 16:50 +0000
                                Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 06:30 +0000
                                  Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-30 03:20 -0500
                                    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 15:00 +0000
                                      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 19:26 +0000
                                        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-30 16:47 -0500
                            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-09-30 00:32 -0500
                              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-30 00:43 -0500
                                Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-09-30 01:50 -0500
                                  Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-30 03:50 -0500
                                    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 15:05 +0000
                                    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-30 16:10 +0000
                              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-30 11:17 -0400
                                Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-30 19:24 +0000
                                  Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-30 15:47 -0400
                                    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-30 20:47 +0000
                                      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-30 17:14 -0400
                                        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-01 13:27 +0000
                                          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-01 11:38 -0400
                                            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-01 16:08 +0000
                                              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-01 18:44 -0400
                                      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-09-30 18:37 -0500
                                        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-01 13:30 +0000
                                          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-10-01 12:19 -0500
                                            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-01 21:25 +0000
                              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-10-01 06:26 +0200
        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-09-30 05:22 +0200
          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 22:26 -0500
    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-29 04:15 +0000
    Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-29 19:03 +0000
      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 15:25 -0500
        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-29 22:36 +0000
        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-30 03:55 +0000
      Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-29 21:26 +0000
        Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 16:36 -0500
          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-29 17:47 -0400
            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 17:16 -0500
              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-29 18:33 -0400
                Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 20:39 -0500
              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-29 22:53 +0000
                Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-09-29 20:40 -0500
          Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-29 22:53 +0000
            Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-29 18:57 -0400
              Re: Any catches on restoring from an old Mac OS X v10.8.5 Time Machine HDD backup to new SSD on a 13.3" MacBook Pro (9,2; MD102ll/A)? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-29 23:17 +0000

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#32320

Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> 
>> I believe he said he already turned on FileVault, which means the
>> contents of the drive are encrypted. So I really don't get his hesitance
>> to simply erase the volume and hand it over. Apple's not interested in
>> spending the considerable time and money it would take to get the data
>> off a failing hard drive.
> 
> Actually, it isn't. :(

You say that as if you have no choice in the matter, which is frankly
ridiculous. All you have to do is turn FileVault on, let it encrypt the
drive, then erase the drive with a normal erase in Disk Utility. Doing so
will ensure even if someone does spend the time and mon to scan the volume
will only find garbled encrypted pieces of files that they cannot put
together or decrypt.

You are being unreasonably and extremely paranoid about this considering
how easy it is to protect the data from prying eyes.

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#32324

> >> I believe he said he already turned on FileVault, which means the
> >> contents of the drive are encrypted. So I really don't get his hesitance
> >> to simply erase the volume and hand it over. Apple's not interested in
> >> spending the considerable time and money it would take to get the data
> >> off a failing hard drive.
> > 
> > Actually, it isn't. :(

> You say that as if you have no choice in the matter, which is frankly
> ridiculous. All you have to do is turn FileVault on, let it encrypt the
> drive, then erase the drive with a normal erase in Disk Utility. Doing so
> will ensure even if someone does spend the time and mon to scan the volume
> will only find garbled encrypted pieces of files that they cannot put
> together or decrypt.

> You are being unreasonably and extremely paranoid about this considering
> how easy it is to protect the data from prying eyes.

Isn't it a bad idea to start now on a dying HDD? I know encrypting can 
take a very long time with data on it. I remember encrypting my own 
drives and that took hours and a few days.
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#32327

On 2015-10-01, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>> >> I believe he said he already turned on FileVault, which means the
>> >> contents of the drive are encrypted. So I really don't get his hesitance
>> >> to simply erase the volume and hand it over. Apple's not interested in
>> >> spending the considerable time and money it would take to get the data
>> >> off a failing hard drive.
>> > 
>> > Actually, it isn't. :(
>
>> You say that as if you have no choice in the matter, which is frankly
>> ridiculous. All you have to do is turn FileVault on, let it encrypt the
>> drive, then erase the drive with a normal erase in Disk Utility. Doing so
>> will ensure even if someone does spend the time and mon to scan the volume
>> will only find garbled encrypted pieces of files that they cannot put
>> together or decrypt.
>
>> You are being unreasonably and extremely paranoid about this considering
>> how easy it is to protect the data from prying eyes.
>
> Isn't it a bad idea to start now on a dying HDD? I know encrypting can 
> take a very long time with data on it. I remember encrypting my own 
> drives and that took hours and a few days.

Why is it a bad idea? The data is backed up, so losing it isn't a
concern. If the drive dies in the middle of it, the drive is dead and
cannot be accessed to get the data off of it anyway. 

You have also balked at simple erasing the drive, as if that somehow is
dangerous or risky. You are being completely irrational.

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#32328

> >> >> I believe he said he already turned on FileVault, which means the
> >> >> contents of the drive are encrypted. So I really don't get his hesitance
> >> >> to simply erase the volume and hand it over. Apple's not interested in
> >> >> spending the considerable time and money it would take to get the data
> >> >> off a failing hard drive.
> >> > 
> >> > Actually, it isn't. :(
> >
> >> You say that as if you have no choice in the matter, which is frankly
> >> ridiculous. All you have to do is turn FileVault on, let it encrypt the
> >> drive, then erase the drive with a normal erase in Disk Utility. Doing so
> >> will ensure even if someone does spend the time and mon to scan the volume
> >> will only find garbled encrypted pieces of files that they cannot put
> >> together or decrypt.
> >
> >> You are being unreasonably and extremely paranoid about this considering
> >> how easy it is to protect the data from prying eyes.
> >
> > Isn't it a bad idea to start now on a dying HDD? I know encrypting can 
> > take a very long time with data on it. I remember encrypting my own 
> > drives and that took hours and a few days.

> Why is it a bad idea? The data is backed up, so losing it isn't a
> concern. If the drive dies in the middle of it, the drive is dead and
> cannot be accessed to get the data off of it anyway. 

Alright. I will encrypt before tomorrow's appointment since this 
HDD death is expected. Maybe it will die before the appointment to show 
them the problem. Ha. I wonder how long it will take to encrypt. :/
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on fire. Allah sent him a revelation: 'Wouldn't it have been sufficient 
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#32330

...
> > Why is it a bad idea? The data is backed up, so losing it isn't a
> > concern. If the drive dies in the middle of it, the drive is dead and
> > cannot be accessed to get the data off of it anyway. 

> Alright. I will encrypt before tomorrow's appointment since this 
> HDD death is expected. Maybe it will die before the appointment to show 
> them the problem. Ha. I wonder how long it will take to encrypt. :/

Estimated time is unknown to finish. :/
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#32331

On 2015-10-02, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> ...
>> > Why is it a bad idea? The data is backed up, so losing it isn't a
>> > concern. If the drive dies in the middle of it, the drive is dead and
>> > cannot be accessed to get the data off of it anyway. 
>
>> Alright. I will encrypt before tomorrow's appointment since this 
>> HDD death is expected. Maybe it will die before the appointment to show 
>> them the problem. Ha. I wonder how long it will take to encrypt. :/
>
> Estimated time is unknown to finish. :/

Erasing would have been much faster. And you could have done it DAYS
ago, if you hadn't been so stubborn.

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#32265

In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1509300944440.734@mako.ath.cx>, David Ritz
<dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

> >> I'd lean toward doing the migration, following a clean install on the 
> >> new drive, if it ever gets that far.
> 
> > Ever gets that far?
> 
> You still haven't determined that the HDD is the problem.  If it's a 
> different hardware issue, you're just spinning your wheels.

it's very clear that the hard drive is the problem.

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#32266

On 2015-09-30, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1509300944440.734@mako.ath.cx>, David Ritz
><dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> >> I'd lean toward doing the migration, following a clean install on the 
>> >> new drive, if it ever gets that far.
>> 
>> > Ever gets that far?
>> 
>> You still haven't determined that the HDD is the problem.  If it's a 
>> different hardware issue, you're just spinning your wheels.
>
> it's very clear that the hard drive is the problem.

Nah, it may not be the only problem. There could be an issue with the
ATA controller hardware, for instance. Best to let Apple run a full
diagnostic on it to be sure.

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#32268

In article <d72fobF21kpU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> >> You still haven't determined that the HDD is the problem.  If it's a 
> >> different hardware issue, you're just spinning your wheels.
> >
> > it's very clear that the hard drive is the problem.
> 
> Nah, it may not be the only problem. There could be an issue with the
> ATA controller hardware, for instance. Best to let Apple run a full
> diagnostic on it to be sure.

it's highly unlikely that anything on the logic board was damaged due
to a fall.

the hard drive has moving parts and although there are shock sensors,
it still can sustain damage.

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#32269

On 2015-09-30, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <d72fobF21kpU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> >> You still haven't determined that the HDD is the problem.  If it's a 
>> >> different hardware issue, you're just spinning your wheels.
>> >
>> > it's very clear that the hard drive is the problem.
>> 
>> Nah, it may not be the only problem. There could be an issue with the
>> ATA controller hardware, for instance. Best to let Apple run a full
>> diagnostic on it to be sure.
>
> it's highly unlikely that anything on the logic board was damaged due
> to a fall.

Unlikely, but not impossible. 

> the hard drive has moving parts and although there are shock sensors,
> it still can sustain damage.

Sure, and it's still best to let Apple run a full diagnostic to be sure.

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#32254

Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>>>>> OK, cool. Recovering would be faster and nicer since we don't have 
>>>>> to reconfigure. I was surprised TM's restore was after a three hours 
>>>>> restore on Saturday. :)
>>>> 
>>>> I will point out that simply restoring from a Time Machine will not 
>>>> install a recovery partition on the replacement disk.  That only takes 
>>>> place when one first installs the operating system.
>>> 
>>> Interesting. How do you put a recovery partition back then onto a new 
>>> disk? I am surprised it doesn't do that.
> 
>> Why bother when it's very easy to just install the OS which creates a
>> recovery partition and then restore from backup? You are making this more
>> complicated than it has to be.
> 
> Because I thought TM puts the recovery partition in it. :( More 
> time wasted since TM erases that Mac OS X partition. :/

Time Machine doesn't erase anything. You did that yourself in Disk Utility
after *booting* on the Time Machine volume, which I would avoid personally.
I wouldn't boot on the backup disk, personally.

>>>> I'd highly recommend running the installer, after which you can 
>>>> restore from your backup or perform a system migration from the Time 
>>>> Machine backup.
> 
>> Yep. It's the best way.
> 
> Argh. More work to do. I am also surprised you can't make a recovery 
> partition after doing a full TM restore. Bah!
 I didn't say it wasn't possible. It's just way simpler and easier to make
the USB installer which you do with a single terminal command and only
takes a few minutes. Manually creating a recovery partition is more
complicated.

>>>> I'd also ask, why isn't your account planning on updating to a newer 
>>>> version of the operating system, while going to all the trouble to 
>>>> upgrade the boot disk?  It would seem the timing is right.
>>> 
>>> Doesn't he have to buy it?
> 
>> No, the latest versions of OS X are free - since 10.9 (10.10 is the current
>> release, and 10.11 will be released soon).
> 
> Hmmm. Those newer versions could break his old stuff to have more work. 
> Grr.

Nah, not much broke from 10.8 to 10.10.

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#32257

> >>>> I will point out that simply restoring from a Time Machine will not 
> >>>> install a recovery partition on the replacement disk.  That only takes 
> >>>> place when one first installs the operating system.
> >>> 
> >>> Interesting. How do you put a recovery partition back then onto a new 
> >>> disk? I am surprised it doesn't do that.
> > 
> >> Why bother when it's very easy to just install the OS which creates a
> >> recovery partition and then restore from backup? You are making this more
> >> complicated than it has to be.
> > 
> > Because I thought TM puts the recovery partition in it. :( More 
> > time wasted since TM erases that Mac OS X partition. :/

> Time Machine doesn't erase anything. You did that yourself in Disk Utility
> after *booting* on the Time Machine volume, which I would avoid personally.
> I wouldn't boot on the backup disk, personally.

I pretty sure TM said it would erase the partition where old Mac OS X 
data was on. 


> >>>> I'd highly recommend running the installer, after which you can 
> >>>> restore from your backup or perform a system migration from the Time 
> >>>> Machine backup.
> > 
> >> Yep. It's the best way.
> > 
> > Argh. More work to do. I am also surprised you can't make a recovery 
> > partition after doing a full TM restore. Bah!
>  I didn't say it wasn't possible. It's just way simpler and easier to make
> the USB installer which you do with a single terminal command and only
> takes a few minutes. Manually creating a recovery partition is more
> complicated.

Do you have the instructions for that? I guess I will make a USB 
installer of Mac OS X then. :(
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#32260

Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I will point out that simply restoring from a Time Machine will not 
>>>>>> install a recovery partition on the replacement disk.  That only takes 
>>>>>> place when one first installs the operating system.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting. How do you put a recovery partition back then onto a new 
>>>>> disk? I am surprised it doesn't do that.
>>> 
>>>> Why bother when it's very easy to just install the OS which creates a
>>>> recovery partition and then restore from backup? You are making this more
>>>> complicated than it has to be.
>>> 
>>> Because I thought TM puts the recovery partition in it. :( More 
>>> time wasted since TM erases that Mac OS X partition. :/
> 
>> Time Machine doesn't erase anything. You did that yourself in Disk Utility
>> after *booting* on the Time Machine volume, which I would avoid personally.
>> I wouldn't boot on the backup disk, personally.
> 
> I pretty sure TM said it would erase the partition where old Mac OS X 
> data was on. 

That wasn't Time Machine. You booted to the Recovery partition on the Time
Machine volume and ran a utility.

>>>>>> I'd highly recommend running the installer, after which you can 
>>>>>> restore from your backup or perform a system migration from the Time 
>>>>>> Machine backup.
>>> 
>>>> Yep. It's the best way.
>>> 
>>> Argh. More work to do. I am also surprised you can't make a recovery 
>>> partition after doing a full TM restore. Bah!
>> I didn't say it wasn't possible. It's just way simpler and easier to make
>> the USB installer which you do with a single terminal command and only
>> takes a few minutes. Manually creating a recovery partition is more
>> complicated.
> 
> Do you have the instructions for that? I guess I will make a USB 
> installer of Mac OS X then. :(

Here you go. I typically use the command-line method myself, but the GUI
method looks fine too:

<http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/10/how-to-make-your-own-bootable-os-x-10-10-yosemite-usb-install-drive/>

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#32271

On 2015-09-30, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Do you have the instructions for that? I guess I will make a USB 
>> installer of Mac OS X then. :(
>
> Here you go. I typically use the command-line method myself, but the GUI
> method looks fine too:
>
><http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/10/how-to-make-your-own-bootable-os-x-10-10-yosemite-usb-install-drive/>
>

FYI: El Capitan was released today, making Yosemite the new "previous
release". While these instructions probably work for El Capitan as well,
I advise you to stick with Yosemite for your client's machine, since a
lot of stuff is changing in El Capitan that could effect software
compatibility for third-party apps. Not much at all broke going from
Mountain Lion to Yosemite in comparison.

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#32278

> >> Do you have the instructions for that? I guess I will make a USB 
> >> installer of Mac OS X then. :(
> >
> > Here you go. I typically use the command-line method myself, but the GUI
> > method looks fine too:
> >
> ><http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/10/how-to-make-your-own-bootable-os-x-10-10-yosemite-usb-install-drive/>

> FYI: El Capitan was released today, making Yosemite the new "previous
> release". While these instructions probably work for El Capitan as well,
> I advise you to stick with Yosemite for your client's machine, since a
> lot of stuff is changing in El Capitan that could effect software
> compatibility for third-party apps. Not much at all broke going from
> Mountain Lion to Yosemite in comparison.

Thanks. :)
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On Tuesday, 29 September 2015 23:21 -0500, 
 in article <i4ydnXhYTp_K_pbLnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, 
 Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> In comp.sys.mac.apps David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

>> On Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:42 -0500, 
>> in article <g5ednespX9aO0ZbLnZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, 
>> Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

>>> OK, cool. Recovering would be faster and nicer since we don't have 
>>> to reconfigure. I was surprised TM's restore was after a three 
>>> hours restore on Saturday. :)

>> I will point out that simply restoring from a Time Machine will not 
>> install a recovery partition on the replacement disk. That only 
>> takes place when one first installs the operating system.

> Interesting. How do you put a recovery partition back then onto a 
> new disk? I am surprised it doesn't do that.

Time Machine does not backup the recovery partition. How could it 
restore what it hasn't backed up?

While it's possible to restore a full disk clone, including all 
partitions, it doesn't sound like there's a disk from which such a 
clone can be made. It's been reformatted at least once. Additionally, 
this may not have been possible, if the disk was damaged in the drop.

>> I'd highly recommend running the installer, after which you can 
>> restore from your backup or perform a system migration from the 
>> Time Machine backup.

>> I'd also ask, why isn't your account planning on updating to a 
>> newer version of the operating system, while going to all the 
>> trouble to upgrade the boot disk? It would seem the timing is 
>> right.

> Doesn't he have to buy it?

I believe all that's required is a download from the App Store. Both 
Mavericks and Yosemite were released without charge. I fully expect 
that El Capitan will be the same. This should be true for any 
supported Mac with App Store, including late versions of OS X 10.6.

>> Also note, there remains a somewhat significant chance that it may 
>> not be a disk issue at all. A trip to the Genius Bar is still well 
>> worth considering.

> Yeah, I am trying to convince him.

Would you like to borrow my clue-by-four?

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#32252

> >>> OK, cool. Recovering would be faster and nicer since we don't have 
> >>> to reconfigure. I was surprised TM's restore was after a three 
> >>> hours restore on Saturday. :)

> >> I will point out that simply restoring from a Time Machine will not 
> >> install a recovery partition on the replacement disk. That only 
> >> takes place when one first installs the operating system.

> > Interesting. How do you put a recovery partition back then onto a 
> > new disk? I am surprised it doesn't do that.

> Time Machine does not backup the recovery partition. How could it 
> restore what it hasn't backed up?

I was expecting it would back that partition up too beside Mac OS X 
partition.


> While it's possible to restore a full disk clone, including all 
> partitions, it doesn't sound like there's a disk from which such a 
> clone can be made. It's been reformatted at least once. Additionally, 
> this may not have been possible, if the disk was damaged in the drop.

Interesting. I used Windows cloning softwares (e.g., Ghost) that can do 
the whole disks, partitions, etc.


> >> I'd highly recommend running the installer, after which you can 
> >> restore from your backup or perform a system migration from the 
> >> Time Machine backup.

> >> I'd also ask, why isn't your account planning on updating to a 
> >> newer version of the operating system, while going to all the 
> >> trouble to upgrade the boot disk? It would seem the timing is 
> >> right.

> > Doesn't he have to buy it?

> I believe all that's required is a download from the App Store. Both 
> Mavericks and Yosemite were released without charge. I fully expect 
> that El Capitan will be the same. This should be true for any 
> supported Mac with App Store, including late versions of OS X 10.6.

Does that have to be on the same machine or can it be done on a 
different machine?


> >> Also note, there remains a somewhat significant chance that it may 
> >> not be a disk issue at all. A trip to the Genius Bar is still well 
> >> worth considering.

> > Yeah, I am trying to convince him.

> Would you like to borrow my clue-by-four?

YES please!
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On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 00:43 -0500, 
 in article <kK6dnYUjOvH165bLnZ2dnUU7-aWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, 
 Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> David Ritz wrote:

>> While it's possible to restore a full disk clone, including all 
>> partitions, it doesn't sound like there's a disk from which such a 
>> clone can be made. It's been reformatted at least once. 
>> Additionally, this may not have been possible, if the disk was 
>> damaged in the drop.

> Interesting. I used Windows cloning softwares (e.g., Ghost) that can 
> do the whole disks, partitions, etc.

One can do the same using Disk Utility, including producing block for 
block identical whole disk clones.  To do such a whole disk clone 
requires booting to an external drive, perhaps even a USB flash drive 
with the utilities and installer on it.  By booting to an external 
drive, nothing is active and live on any of the partitions to be 
cloned.

>>>> I'd highly recommend running the installer, after which you can 
>>>> restore from your backup or perform a system migration from the 
>>>> Time Machine backup.

>>>> I'd also ask, why isn't your account planning on updating to a 
>>>> newer version of the operating system, while going to all the 
>>>> trouble to upgrade the boot disk? It would seem the timing is 
>>>> right.

>>> Doesn't he have to buy it?

>> I believe all that's required is a download from the App Store. 
>> Both Mavericks and Yosemite were released without charge. I fully 
>> expect that El Capitan will be the same. This should be true for 
>> any supported Mac with App Store, including late versions of OS X 
>> 10.6.

> Does that have to be on the same machine or can it be done on a 
> different machine?

You may be able to download the installer once and copy it to other 
machines.  You'll still be required to provide App Store credentials 
for the owner of the machine where the OS is being installed, when 
the installer runs.

Do keep in mind: Running the Install OS X $NAME.app from /Applications 
will cause the app to be deleted, upon completion of the installation.  
It's not a bad idea to copy the installer somewhere outside of the 
Applications directory, for safekeeping.  It beats the hell out of 
having to re-download the 5.6Gb file again, at some later date.

-- 
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
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> >> While it's possible to restore a full disk clone, including all 
> >> partitions, it doesn't sound like there's a disk from which such a 
> >> clone can be made. It's been reformatted at least once. 
> >> Additionally, this may not have been possible, if the disk was 
> >> damaged in the drop.

> > Interesting. I used Windows cloning softwares (e.g., Ghost) that can 
> > do the whole disks, partitions, etc.

> One can do the same using Disk Utility, including producing block for 
> block identical whole disk clones.  To do such a whole disk clone 
> requires booting to an external drive, perhaps even a USB flash drive 
> with the utilities and installer on it.  By booting to an external 
> drive, nothing is active and live on any of the partitions to be 
> cloned.

Interesting. I should check that out.


> >>>> I'd highly recommend running the installer, after which you can 
> >>>> restore from your backup or perform a system migration from the 
> >>>> Time Machine backup.

> >>>> I'd also ask, why isn't your account planning on updating to a 
> >>>> newer version of the operating system, while going to all the 
> >>>> trouble to upgrade the boot disk? It would seem the timing is 
> >>>> right.

> >>> Doesn't he have to buy it?

> >> I believe all that's required is a download from the App Store. 
> >> Both Mavericks and Yosemite were released without charge. I fully 
> >> expect that El Capitan will be the same. This should be true for 
> >> any supported Mac with App Store, including late versions of OS X 
> >> 10.6.

> > Does that have to be on the same machine or can it be done on a 
> > different machine?

> You may be able to download the installer once and copy it to other 
> machines.  You'll still be required to provide App Store credentials 
> for the owner of the machine where the OS is being installed, when 
> the installer runs.

> Do keep in mind: Running the Install OS X $NAME.app from /Applications 
> will cause the app to be deleted, upon completion of the installation.  
> It's not a bad idea to copy the installer somewhere outside of the 
> Applications directory, for safekeeping.  It beats the hell out of 
> having to re-download the 5.6Gb file again, at some later date.

Thanks. Yes, 5.6 GB is huge even on a fast Internet connection.
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tree and then ordered that the dwelling place of the ants should be set 
on fire. Allah sent him a revelation: 'Wouldn't it have been sufficient 
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#32262

Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> 
>> Do keep in mind: Running the Install OS X $NAME.app from /Applications 
>> will cause the app to be deleted, upon completion of the installation.  
>> It's not a bad idea to copy the installer somewhere outside of the 
>> Applications directory, for safekeeping.  It beats the hell out of 
>> having to re-download the 5.6Gb file again, at some later date.
> 
> Thanks. Yes, 5.6 GB is huge even on a fast Internet connection.

Immediately after downloading the Yosemite  installer from the App Store,
if the installer launches, quit it. Then just right-click the installer,
and choose Compress from the pop-up menu that appears. That will create a
zipped copy of the installer that you can archive or transfer to other
computers. That's what I do for all OS X installers I download from the App
Store. ;)

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