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  iOS version questions Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-16 18:33 +0000
    Re: iOS version questions Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-16 14:48 -0500
      Re: iOS version questions Charles <fort514@mac.com> - 2011-04-16 16:05 -0400
        Re: iOS version questions Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-04-16 15:39 -0500
          Re: iOS version questions Charles <fort514@mac.com> - 2011-04-16 19:24 -0400
            Re: iOS version questions Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-17 14:13 +0000
              Re: iOS version questions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-04-17 12:16 -0500
                Re: iOS version questions Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-17 11:20 -0700
                  Re: iOS version questions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-04-17 17:45 -0500
                    Re: iOS version questions Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-17 19:05 -0700
                      Re: iOS version questions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-04-17 22:37 -0500
                        Re: iOS version questions Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-17 21:34 -0700
                          Re: iOS version questions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 07:21 -0400
                          Re: iOS version questions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-04-18 07:44 -0500
                        Re: iOS version questions Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-18 13:32 +0000
                          Re: iOS version questions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-04-18 14:48 -0500
                      Re: iOS version questions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 07:20 -0400
                        Re: iOS version questions AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2011-04-18 11:27 -0400
                Re: iOS version questions Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-17 18:59 +0000
                  Re: iOS version questions sbt <dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid> - 2011-04-17 13:12 -0700
                    Re: iOS version questions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-04-17 17:43 -0500
                      Re: iOS version questions Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-17 23:52 +0000
                    Re: iOS version questions Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-17 23:52 +0000
                      Re: iOS version questions Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 00:35 +0000
                      Re: iOS version questions Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-17 19:10 -0700
                        Re: iOS version questions sbt <dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid> - 2011-04-17 20:35 -0700
                        Re: iOS version questions Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-18 13:32 +0000
                          Re: iOS version questions Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-18 22:21 -0700
                            Re: iOS version questions sbt <dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid> - 2011-04-18 22:39 -0700
                              Re: iOS version questions Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-18 22:54 -0700
                                Re: iOS version questions Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-19 13:42 +0000
                                  Re: iOS version questions Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-19 20:36 -0700
                                    Re: iOS version questions Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 11:42 +0000
                                      Re: iOS version questions John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2011-04-20 08:54 -0700
                                      Re: iOS version questions Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-20 16:04 +0000
                                        Re: iOS version questions Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-20 12:27 -0700
                              Re: iOS version questions Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-19 13:42 +0000
    Re: iOS version questions Tom Harrington <tph@pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> - 2011-04-17 17:32 -0600
      Re: iOS version questions Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2011-04-17 23:52 +0000

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#1352 — iOS version questions

I'm not really a Luddite, but I do tend to avoid updates that don't offer
me any visible advantages 8-)

So anyway, I haven't updated my iOS to any 4.# and now I see there's an
even later one. Am I stuck in the past? All I see on the Apple site is a
later number, not Step 1.   

I've discovered there are a couple apps I wanted that demand a later one
8-(

BUT this newest one demands iTunes 10, which I've been avoiding as well,
because it has nothing useful to me except, it seems, the OS I don't have.

I've been avoiding experiments until AFTER my trip this spring, trying to
keep things simple so I can read all the way to my hotel in Aberdeen at the
end of April.  



-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#1354

On 11-04-16 1:33 PM, Erilar wrote:
> I'm not really a Luddite, but I do tend to avoid updates that don't offer
> me any visible advantages 8-)
>
> So anyway, I haven't updated my iOS to any 4.#[...]

iOS updates always contain important security improvements.  They are 
not to be ignored.

> and now I see there's an even later one. Am I stuck in the past? All
> I see on the Apple site is a later number, not Step 1.

What happens when you connect your iPad to iTunes? Under DEVICES in the 
sidebar you should see your iPad. Select that and then you should see a 
button under Version that says "Check for Updates".

> BUT this newest one demands iTunes 10,

Indeed it does.

> which I've been avoiding as well, because it has nothing useful to me
> except, it seems, the OS I don't have. I've been avoiding experiments
> until AFTER my trip this spring, trying to keep things simple

By avoiding updates you are not keeping things simple. Just read what 
you've written if you don't believe me.

Enjoy your trip to Aberdeen. I've only been there once. I loved it.

Cheers,

-j


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#1355

In article <90ua57Fk7bU1@mid.individual.net>, Jeffrey Goldberg
<nobody@goldmark.org> wrote:

> iOS updates always contain important security improvements.  They are 
> not to be ignored

I agree in general but if he has an iPhone 3G I would avoid updating to
4. It could turn the phone in into a slug. The earlier versions of 4
did.

-- 
Charles

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#1357

On 11-04-16 3:05 PM, Charles wrote:
> In article<90ua57Fk7bU1@mid.individual.net>, Jeffrey Goldberg
> <nobody@goldmark.org>  wrote:
>
>> iOS updates always contain important security improvements.  They are
>> not to be ignored
>
> I agree in general but if he has an iPhone 3G I would avoid updating to
> 4. It could turn the phone in into a slug. The earlier versions of 4
> did.

You are right. Point taken. I forgot about that. The iPod Touch 2nd 
generation also suffered from this.

In this case we talked about on iPad which had no problem with iOS 4.

Cheers,

-j


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#1362

In article <90ud45Fa1bU1@mid.individual.net>, Jeffrey Goldberg
<nobody@goldmark.org> wrote:

> In this case we talked about on iPad which had no problem with iOS 4.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -j

And my iPad has gotten better with each iOS 4 upgrade. I can't imagine
not having upgraded from 3 to 4. Multitasking alone made it like a
brand new iPad!

-- 
Charles

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#1379

Charles <fort514@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <90ud45Fa1bU1@mid.individual.net>, Jeffrey Goldberg
> <nobody@goldmark.org> wrote:
> 
>> In this case we talked about on iPad which had no problem with iOS 4.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> -j
> 
> And my iPad has gotten better with each iOS 4 upgrade. I can't imagine
> not having upgraded from 3 to 4. Multitasking alone made it like a
> brand new iPad!

I took the plunge(s) yesterday afternoon. Step 1: disable the intrusive
Ping panel. Step 2: install OS4. Step 3: sync everything but iCal, which it
told me was going to make all kinds of date changes!  Step 4: check paper
backup calendar. Step 5:  sync again, adding the 3 errant apps(one of which
was a lemon I deleted) and iCal, which did NOT change as threatened. I have
since disabled a couple more "improvements"
3 useful things: airplane mode with icon, more apps, ability to listen to
something besides iPod app while doing something else. 

Big deal?

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#1386

In article <ioesip$he2$3@dont-email.me>,
 Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> Charles <fort514@mac.com> wrote:
> > In article <90ud45Fa1bU1@mid.individual.net>, Jeffrey Goldberg
> > <nobody@goldmark.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> In this case we talked about on iPad which had no problem with iOS 4.
> >> 
> >> Cheers,
> >> 
> >> -j
> > 
> > And my iPad has gotten better with each iOS 4 upgrade. I can't imagine
> > not having upgraded from 3 to 4. Multitasking alone made it like a
> > brand new iPad!
> 
> I took the plunge(s) yesterday afternoon. Step 1: disable the intrusive
> Ping panel. Step 2: install OS4. Step 3: sync everything but iCal, which it
> told me was going to make all kinds of date changes!  Step 4: check paper
> backup calendar. Step 5:  sync again, adding the 3 errant apps(one of which
> was a lemon I deleted) and iCal, which did NOT change as threatened. I have
> since disabled a couple more "improvements"
> 3 useful things: airplane mode with icon, more apps, ability to listen to
> something besides iPod app while doing something else. 
> 
> Big deal?

All that hesitance, procrastinating, fretting, hemming, and hawing, just 
for that, eh?  Pfft...

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#1392

In article <jollyroger-D73DA0.12161117042011@news.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <ioesip$he2$3@dont-email.me>,
>  Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> > Big deal?
> 
> All that hesitance, procrastinating, fretting, hemming, and hawing, just 
> for that, eh?  Pfft...

And your response makes it *so* much less likely that anyone will ever 
take your advice.

Steve

-- 
steve <at> w0x0f <dot> com
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, sidecar in the other, body thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

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#1402

In article <nospam-911F34.11193617042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-D73DA0.12161117042011@news.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <ioesip$he2$3@dont-email.me>,
> >  Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> > > Big deal?
> > 
> > All that hesitance, procrastinating, fretting, hemming, and hawing, just 
> > for that, eh?  Pfft...
> 
> And your response makes it *so* much less likely that anyone will ever 
> take your advice.
> 
> Steve

Shut the fuck up, ho. If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you.

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#1411

In article <jollyroger-2949C5.17452417042011@news.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <nospam-911F34.11193617042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > In article <jollyroger-D73DA0.12161117042011@news.individual.net>,
> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <ioesip$he2$3@dont-email.me>,
> > >  Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> > > > Big deal?
> > > 
> > > All that hesitance, procrastinating, fretting, hemming, and hawing, just 
> > > for that, eh?  Pfft...
> > 
> > And your response makes it *so* much less likely that anyone will ever 
> > take your advice.
> > 
> > Steve
> 
> Shut the fuck up, ho. If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you.

Wow, what a gentleman. Is it any wonder your advice is ignored?

Steve

-- 
steve <at> w0x0f <dot> com
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, sidecar in the other, body thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

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#1417

In article <nospam-42D5F8.19051917042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-2949C5.17452417042011@news.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <nospam-911F34.11193617042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >  Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <jollyroger-D73DA0.12161117042011@news.individual.net>,
> > >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In article <ioesip$he2$3@dont-email.me>,
> > > >  Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> > > > > Big deal?
> > > > 
> > > > All that hesitance, procrastinating, fretting, hemming, and hawing, 
> > > > just for that, eh?  Pfft...
> > > 
> > > And your response makes it *so* much less likely that anyone will ever 
> > > take your advice.
> > > 
> > > Steve
> > 
> > Shut the fuck up, ho. If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you.
> 
> Wow, what a gentleman. Is it any wonder your advice is ignored?
> 
> Steve

I haven't given you any advice to ignore, Sally. Ask regular visitors 
here and they will tell you I generally give decent advice that is often 
appreciated. My comment above to Erilar is a sarcastic jab regarding her 
silly tendency to avoid updates because of her irrational fear of them 
combined with her refusal to appreciate or even learn about the benefits 
of them - often to her own detriment, unbeknownst to (or probably more 
accurately: unacknowledged by) her. Others here who have seen that 
Erilar does exhibit those tendencies will likely appreciate my 
sentiments along those lines. I frankly don't give a shit whether you 
agree with my feelings on this issue. And I honestly couldn't care less 
whether you take or leave my advice; but we can keep up this awfully 
witty conversation of yours if you insist. Your turn.

-- 
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#1418

In article <jollyroger-24915C.22371917042011@news.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <nospam-42D5F8.19051917042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > In article <jollyroger-2949C5.17452417042011@news.individual.net>,
> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <nospam-911F34.11193617042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > >  Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In article <jollyroger-D73DA0.12161117042011@news.individual.net>,
> > > >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > In article <ioesip$he2$3@dont-email.me>,
> > > > >  Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> > > > > > Big deal?
> > > > > 
> > > > > All that hesitance, procrastinating, fretting, hemming, and hawing, 
> > > > > just for that, eh?  Pfft...
> > > > 
> > > > And your response makes it *so* much less likely that anyone will ever 
> > > > take your advice.
> > > > 
> > > > Steve
> > > 
> > > Shut the fuck up, ho. If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you.
> > 
> > Wow, what a gentleman. Is it any wonder your advice is ignored?
> > 
> > Steve
> 
> I haven't given you any advice to ignore, Sally. Ask regular visitors 
> here and they will tell you I generally give decent advice that is often 
> appreciated. My comment above to Erilar is a sarcastic jab regarding her 
> silly tendency to avoid updates because of her irrational fear of them 
> combined with her refusal to appreciate or even learn about the benefits 
> of them - often to her own detriment, unbeknownst to (or probably more 
> accurately: unacknowledged by) her. Others here who have seen that 
> Erilar does exhibit those tendencies will likely appreciate my 
> sentiments along those lines. I frankly don't give a shit whether you 
> agree with my feelings on this issue. And I honestly couldn't care less 
> whether you take or leave my advice; but we can keep up this awfully 
> witty conversation of yours if you insist. Your turn.

Sometimes, you give good advice. Why do you find it necessary to attack 
those like Erilar who have different ideas on what makes a useful 
system, instead of just helping them do what they want to do? Sure, 
pointing out the advantages of new features is fine, but the attitude is 
not.

You may have the last word or not. You're in my killfile now.

Steve

-- 
steve <at> w0x0f <dot> com
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, sidecar in the other, body thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

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#1425

In article <nospam-A1AF48.21341117042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> You may have the last word or not. You're in my killfile now.

Ooh, ooh, Stevie, put me in there too -- better SNR all around. Fucken 
dweeb.
-- 
If you could teach a cat to dance, 
you'd never have to leave the house.
  -- Pat Sajak

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#1428

In article <nospam-A1AF48.21341117042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-24915C.22371917042011@news.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <nospam-42D5F8.19051917042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >  Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <jollyroger-2949C5.17452417042011@news.individual.net>,
> > >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In article <nospam-911F34.11193617042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > >  Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > In article <jollyroger-D73DA0.12161117042011@news.individual.net>,
> > > > >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > In article <ioesip$he2$3@dont-email.me>,
> > > > > >  Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > Big deal?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > All that hesitance, procrastinating, fretting, hemming, and hawing, 
> > > > > > just for that, eh?  Pfft...
> > > > > 
> > > > > And your response makes it *so* much less likely that anyone will 
> > > > > ever 
> > > > > take your advice.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Steve
> > > > 
> > > > Shut the fuck up, ho. If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you.
> > > 
> > > Wow, what a gentleman. Is it any wonder your advice is ignored?
> > > 
> > > Steve
> > 
> > I haven't given you any advice to ignore, Sally. Ask regular visitors 
> > here and they will tell you I generally give decent advice that is often 
> > appreciated. My comment above to Erilar is a sarcastic jab regarding her 
> > silly tendency to avoid updates because of her irrational fear of them 
> > combined with her refusal to appreciate or even learn about the benefits 
> > of them - often to her own detriment, unbeknownst to (or probably more 
> > accurately: unacknowledged by) her. Others here who have seen that 
> > Erilar does exhibit those tendencies will likely appreciate my 
> > sentiments along those lines. I frankly don't give a shit whether you 
> > agree with my feelings on this issue. And I honestly couldn't care less 
> > whether you take or leave my advice; but we can keep up this awfully 
> > witty conversation of yours if you insist. Your turn.
> 
> Sometimes, you give good advice. 

Your indecisiveness might be cute if you were actually of the female 
persuasion, Sally. First you say my advice is ignored. Now you say I 
sometimes give good advice.  Which is it?

> Why do you find it necessary to attack 
> those like Erilar who have different ideas on what makes a useful 
> system, instead of just helping them do what they want to do? Sure, 
> pointing out the advantages of new features is fine, but the attitude is 
> not.

I already told you why I made the comment I made - not that I am under 
any obligation to explain myself to you. If you don't agree with my 
reasoning, tough titties.

> You may have the last word or not. You're in my killfile now.

Good riddance. Bye now.

-- 
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#1433

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <nospam-42D5F8.19051917042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
>   I generally give decent advice that is often 
> appreciated. 
  Actually, that's true, but it's not often jolly 8-)

>My comment above to Erilar is a sarcastic jab regarding her 
> silly tendency to avoid updates because of her irrational fear of them 
> combined with her refusal to appreciate or even learn about the benefits 
> of them - often to her own detriment, unbeknownst to (or probably more 
> accurately: unacknowledged by) her. Others here who have seen that 
> Erilar does exhibit those tendencies will likely appreciate my 
> sentiments along those lines.

I've had too many bad experiences with updates to accept them unwarily.  I
like to control my software rather than have it attempt to control me 8-)

Take into account the fact that I got my ham licence in the '50's.  There
are times when I miss vacuum tubes.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#1443

In article <iohegk$2b8$2@dont-email.me>,
 Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <nospam-42D5F8.19051917042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >   I generally give decent advice that is often 
> > appreciated. 
>   Actually, that's true, but it's not often jolly 8-)
> 
> >My comment above to Erilar is a sarcastic jab regarding her 
> > silly tendency to avoid updates because of her irrational fear of them 
> > combined with her refusal to appreciate or even learn about the benefits 
> > of them - often to her own detriment, unbeknownst to (or probably more 
> > accurately: unacknowledged by) her. Others here who have seen that 
> > Erilar does exhibit those tendencies will likely appreciate my 
> > sentiments along those lines.
> 
> I've had too many bad experiences with updates to accept them unwarily.  I
> like to control my software rather than have it attempt to control me 8-)

Accepting software updates doesn't necessarily commit you to control. 
When you bitch and moan about problems associated with your decision to 
refuse updates for lengthy periods of time, you can expect a little jab 
from people like me.  ; )

> Take into account the fact that I got my ham licence in the '50's.  There
> are times when I miss vacuum tubes.

Meh.

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#1424

In article <nospam-42D5F8.19051917042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Steve Fenwick <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> 
> Wow, what a gentleman. Is it any wonder your advice is ignored?

Actually, it's not; his advice, when he deigns to give it, is generally 
technically accurate and well-received. He's a pain in the ass, for 
sure.
-- 
If you could teach a cat to dance, 
you'd never have to leave the house.
  -- Pat Sajak

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#1438

On Apr/18/2011 7:2036 AM, Warren Oates wrote:
> In article<nospam-42D5F8.19051917042011@news.eternal-september.org>,
>   Steve Fenwick<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow, what a gentleman. Is it any wonder your advice is ignored?
>
> Actually, it's not; his advice, when he deigns to give it, is generally
> technically accurate and well-received. He's a pain in the ass, for
> sure.


Mr. Oates is quite right on both points, Mr. Fenwick. In a volunteer 
forum like this, anyone is free to give advice on their own terms, and 
anyone is free to refuse advice given on terms they reject. I hope you 
are both in each other's killfile, so the forum can resume, now that 
this housekeeping matter is settled.


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#1397

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> In article <ioesip$he2$3@dont-email.me>,
>  Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> 
>> Charles <fort514@mac.com> wrote:
>>> In article <90ud45Fa1bU1@mid.individual.net>, Jeffrey Goldberg
>>> <nobody@goldmark.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In this case we talked about on iPad which had no problem with iOS 4.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> -j
>>> 
>>> And my iPad has gotten better with each iOS 4 upgrade. I can't imagine
>>> not having upgraded from 3 to 4. Multitasking alone made it like a
>>> brand new iPad!
>> 
>> I took the plunge(s) yesterday afternoon. Step 1: disable the intrusive
>> Ping panel. Step 2: install OS4. Step 3: sync everything but iCal, which it
>> told me was going to make all kinds of date changes!  Step 4: check paper
>> backup calendar. Step 5:  sync again, adding the 3 errant apps(one of which
>> was a lemon I deleted) and iCal, which did NOT change as threatened. I have
>> since disabled a couple more "improvements"
>> 3 useful things: airplane mode with icon, more apps, ability to listen to
>> something besides iPod app while doing something else. 
>> 
>> Big deal?
> 
> All that hesitance, procrastinating, fretting, hemming, and hawing, just 
> for that, eh?  Pfft...

For three little advantages and a lot of crud I had to dump. 

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#1399

In article <iofda8$9vu$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
<drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > In article <ioesip$he2$3@dont-email.me>,
> >  Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> > 
> >> Charles <fort514@mac.com> wrote:
> >>> In article <90ud45Fa1bU1@mid.individual.net>, Jeffrey Goldberg
> >>> <nobody@goldmark.org> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> In this case we talked about on iPad which had no problem with iOS 4.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> 
> >>>> -j
> >>> 
> >>> And my iPad has gotten better with each iOS 4 upgrade. I can't imagine
> >>> not having upgraded from 3 to 4. Multitasking alone made it like a
> >>> brand new iPad!
> >> 
> >> I took the plunge(s) yesterday afternoon. Step 1: disable the intrusive
> >> Ping panel. Step 2: install OS4. Step 3: sync everything but iCal, which it
> >> told me was going to make all kinds of date changes!  Step 4: check paper
> >> backup calendar. Step 5:  sync again, adding the 3 errant apps(one of which
> >> was a lemon I deleted) and iCal, which did NOT change as threatened. I have
> >> since disabled a couple more "improvements"
> >> 3 useful things: airplane mode with icon, more apps, ability to listen to
> >> something besides iPod app while doing something else. 
> >> 
> >> Big deal?
> > 
> > All that hesitance, procrastinating, fretting, hemming, and hawing, just 
> > for that, eh?  Pfft...
> 
> For three little advantages and a lot of crud I had to dump.

Did you also notice that you can now switch from one running app to
another by double-clicking the Home button and tapping the one you want
to switch to from the panel that appears at the bottom of the screen?
That's got to be simpler than clicking the Home button and then finding
the home screen that contains the one you want to switch to.

Or AirPlay, or support in iPod for HomeSharing? Additional multifinger
gestures? Increased support for visuallly impaired? There are a lot of
little niceties that you might yet discover as you use/explore what's
there.

-- 
Spenser

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