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  Audio equalizer for OS X? Sparky <see@thesig.net> - 2011-09-26 02:35 -0700
    Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Malcolm <malcolm@invalid> - 2011-09-26 06:13 -0400
    Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2011-09-26 12:27 -0700
      Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2011-09-26 20:48 +0100
        Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Erik Richard Sørensen <tulle@tulle.dk> - 2011-09-27 00:01 +0200
        Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2011-09-27 00:21 -0700
      Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2011-09-27 05:00 +0000
        Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2011-09-27 01:08 -0700
          Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-09-27 07:47 -0500
            Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2011-09-27 09:44 -0700
          Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2011-09-27 18:38 +0000
            Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> - 2011-09-27 14:10 -0500
              Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2011-09-28 08:21 +1200
                Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2011-09-28 08:23 +1200
                  Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2011-09-27 14:47 -0700
                Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-09-27 21:26 -0500
              Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-09-27 21:20 -0500
              Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2011-10-08 10:23 -0400
      Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Paul Murphy <CornedBeef@Cabbage.com> - 2011-09-28 12:51 -0400
    Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Uncle Bob <uncle808us@netzero.com> - 2011-09-26 12:48 -0700
    Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? colours@shades.of.grey (Addictive) - 2011-09-26 22:32 +0200
      Re: Audio equalizer for OS X? Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2011-09-27 23:08 +0100

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#5513 — Audio equalizer for OS X?

I cannot find a stand-alone s/w equalizer utility for OS X. If I want to buy 
Audio Hijack Pro (US$32) I can us that with another utility to give me an 
equalizer. 

Is there a single utility that will give a universal (ie, not just for 
iTunes) equalizer control? 

Thanks.

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#5514

On 2011-09-26 09:35:28 +0000, Sparky said:

> I cannot find a stand-alone s/w equalizer utility for OS X. If I want to buy
> Audio Hijack Pro (US$32) I can us that with another utility to give me an
> equalizer.
> 
> Is there a single utility that will give a universal (ie, not just for
> iTunes) equalizer control?
> 
> Thanks.

Audio Hijack Pro includes a 10 band equalizer in its Effects tab.  You 
don't need any other utilities.  It can be used with any (or all) audio 
applications.

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#5516

In article 
<0001HW.CAA595700001A3B3B02919BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Sparky <see@thesig.net> wrote:

> I cannot find a stand-alone s/w equalizer utility for OS X. If I want to buy 
> Audio Hijack Pro (US$32) I can us that with another utility to give me an 
> equalizer. 
> 
> Is there a single utility that will give a universal (ie, not just for 
> iTunes) equalizer control? 
> 
> Thanks.

I have complained about this for a while. I have an Elgato TV tuner that 
does not have enough volume to run my headphones. and would like some 
boost. My outboard speakers powered through USB usually have sufficient 
volume. The sound quality of the Mac Pro, however is so lousy, that I 
need equalization. I do not understand why Apple does not make the 
iTunes equalizer available as a module.

-- 

Sam

Conservatives are against Darwinism but for natural selection.
Liberals are for Darwinism but totally against any selection.

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#5519

On 26/09/2011 20:27, Salmon Egg wrote:

> I do not understand why Apple does not make the
> iTunes equalizer available as a module.

In a way it does, but only as a standard plugin for OSX's Audio Unit 
architecture, which any app can make use of.

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#5521

Calum wrote:
> On 26/09/2011 20:27, Salmon Egg wrote:
>> I do not understand why Apple does not make the
>> iTunes equalizer available as a module.
> 
> In a way it does, but only as a standard plugin for OSX's Audio Unit 
> architecture, which any app can make use of.

But it doesn't work off-application so to speak. This means that you 
can't adjust EQ outside an app that can handle AU plug-ins.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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#5526

In article <j5qkuh$43m$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
 Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> wrote:

> On 26/09/2011 20:27, Salmon Egg wrote:
> 
> > I do not understand why Apple does not make the
> > iTunes equalizer available as a module.
> 
> In a way it does, but only as a standard plugin for OSX's Audio Unit 
> architecture, which any app can make use of.

I certainly would like more details. I would pass that information along 
to Elgato. They claim to be looking for improvements to their TV 
software. While sp os is beyond my capability, it should be a cheap way 
for Elgato to improve their software.

-- 

Sam

Conservatives are against Darwinism but for natural selection.
Liberals are for Darwinism but totally against any selection.

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#5523

In message <SalmonEgg-3CD83F.12274826092011@news60.forteinc.com> 
  Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> In article 
> <0001HW.CAA595700001A3B3B02919BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Sparky <see@thesig.net> wrote:

>> I cannot find a stand-alone s/w equalizer utility for OS X. If I want to buy 
>> Audio Hijack Pro (US$32) I can us that with another utility to give me an 
>> equalizer. 
>> 
>> Is there a single utility that will give a universal (ie, not just for 
>> iTunes) equalizer control? 
>> 
>> Thanks.

> I have complained about this for a while. I have an Elgato TV tuner that 
> does not have enough volume to run my headphones. and would like some 
> boost. My outboard speakers powered through USB usually have sufficient 
> volume. The sound quality of the Mac Pro, however is so lousy, that I 
> need equalization. I do not understand why Apple does not make the 
> iTunes equalizer available as a module.

My MacPro has Digital audio out, and the audio is by no means lousy.

Even with those kind of crappy computer speaker sets with the single
connector for the subwoofer and then 5 speakers connected to it the
sound is better than most stereo equipment, and loud enough I can get
the neighbors to complain if I turn it up.



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exactly the wrong way around.  --Wyrd Sisters
I WILL NOT GREASE THE MONKEY BARS Bart chalkboard Ep. 7F17

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#5527

In article <slrnj82m41.1h7n.g.kreme@krismbp.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> My MacPro has Digital audio out, and the audio is by no means lousy.
> 
> Even with those kind of crappy computer speaker sets with the single
> connector for the subwoofer and then 5 speakers connected to it the
> sound is better than most stereo equipment, and loud enough I can get
> the neighbors to complain if I turn it up.

The built in speaker is pretty awful. To get around that, I have 
obtained cheap USB powered speakers. Audio for these speakers comes from 
the the headphone jack.

I also have a Logitech head set suitable for Skype. Power and all 
signals transfer via the USB port. Audio quality by that route is 
adequate, but I cannot adequate audio volume using the Elgato TV 
software. I need to get an equalizer that can give a bit of a boost in 
that mode. The headset seems to be adequate for other uses such as with 
iTunes.

So far, I have not had much use for the higher quality output 
capabilities.

Also, my advancing years may be giving hearing problems. It is strange, 
however, how little trouble I have understanding professional radio 
announcers. I listen to NPR a lot. That is why I am not at all sure that 
it is my hearing that is deteriorating, rather than poor hardware or 
poor enunciation.

I sometimes listen to recorded TV episodes or Movies. British movies of 
the 50's seem to have particularly bad audio quality. The magic of the 
computer allows me to repeat a word or phrase many times. Often, that 
enables me to extract what a previous unintelligible word is. Sometimes, 
the repeats just will not help. Even when I finally figure out what a 
word is, I still cannot understand it upon a repetition.

-- 

Sam

Conservatives are against Darwinism but for natural selection.
Liberals are for Darwinism but totally against any selection.

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#5528

In article <SalmonEgg-693E6B.01080127092011@news60.forteinc.com>,
 Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> The built in speaker is pretty awful.

Expecting it to be anything terrific is unrealistic.

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#5529

In article <jollyroger-64900C.07475827092011@news.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <SalmonEgg-693E6B.01080127092011@news60.forteinc.com>,
>  Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> > The built in speaker is pretty awful.
> 
> Expecting it to be anything terrific is unrealistic.

IIRC, audio quality, while not good, on some earlier desktop Macs was 
adequate for voice. I think a G3 was OK.

In many ways, degradation of audio quality, can be beneficial for voice 
intelligibility. For example, good old POTS (plain old telephone 
service) phones as developed by Western Electric in conjunction with 
Bell Labs, were vary good for intelligibility. That was the case even 
though the the bandwidth was definitely limited and frequency distortion 
present. This really showed up during radio amateur voice patching. 
Compared to high quality microphones, POTS phones were easier to 
understand.

High fidelity will reproduce noise and interference that frequency 
distortion can eliminate or reduce. The POTS system seemed to optimize 
the transmission of frequencies that carried the intelligence. Igt was 
not an accident. Ma Bell invested millions to get that right.

-- 

Sam

Conservatives are against Darwinism but for natural selection.
Liberals are for Darwinism but totally against any selection.

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#5531

In message <SalmonEgg-693E6B.01080127092011@news60.forteinc.com> 
  Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> In article <slrnj82m41.1h7n.g.kreme@krismbp.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> My MacPro has Digital audio out, and the audio is by no means lousy.
>> 
>> Even with those kind of crappy computer speaker sets with the single
>> connector for the subwoofer and then 5 speakers connected to it the
>> sound is better than most stereo equipment, and loud enough I can get
>> the neighbors to complain if I turn it up.

> The built in speaker is pretty awful.

It's a builtin speaker. on a tower. targetted at 'Professionals'. It's
good enough to hear startup chimes and system beeps because that's what
it's for.

> To get around that, I have 
> obtained cheap USB powered speakers. Audio for these speakers comes from 
> the the headphone jack.

I have an old Dell speaker thingy, also on the headphone jack that has 5
speakers and a subwoofer. The sound is surprisingly good.

> I also have a Logitech head set suitable for Skype. Power and all 
> signals transfer via the USB port.

I have one of those as well. It works for Skype, or Ventrillo. That's
abotu all it's good for though. I never use it with iTunes, for example.
But I think that is the quality of the Logitch headset, not necessarily
of USB sound.

>Audio quality by that route is adequate, but I cannot adequate audio
>volume using the Elgato TV software.

I think, then, the problem is Elgato.

> I need to get an equalizer that can give a bit of a boost in 
> that mode. The headset seems to be adequate for other uses such as with 
> iTunes.

I find its sound to be rather poor for music. Even when playing WoW I
will tend to turn off the music if I am using the headset.

> So far, I have not had much use for the higher quality output 
> capabilities.

I have optical out on my Macs and optical in on my Amp, but I've never
bothered to connect them. The external speakers on the MacPro are all
the sound I need.

-- 
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The Queen was in the parlor playing piano for the children of the King
Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.

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#5532

On 11-09-27 1:38 PM, Lewis wrote:

> It's a builtin speaker. on a tower. targetted at 'Professionals'. It's
> good enough to hear startup chimes and system beeps because that's what
> it's for.

Ah. Thanks for that. I've been trying to listen to Rites of Spring
through the built in speakers of my Mac Pro, and I wondered why it
didn't sound like it had in the concern hall.

Now I can try to focus on why I can't seem to see Saturn's rings using
the zoom on my iPhone camera.

Cheers,

-j

-- 
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I rarely read HTML or poorly quoting posts
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#5535

Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> wrote:

> On 11-09-27 1:38 PM, Lewis wrote:
> 
> > It's a builtin speaker. on a tower. targetted at 'Professionals'. It's
> > good enough to hear startup chimes and system beeps because that's what
> > it's for.
> 
> Ah. Thanks for that. I've been trying to listen to Rites of Spring
> through the built in speakers of my Mac Pro, and I wondered why it
> didn't sound like it had in the concern hall.
> 
> Now I can try to focus on why I can't seem to see Saturn's rings using
> the zoom on my iPhone camera.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -j

*laughs*

Well I have to say my JBL Creature II speakers hooked up to my iMac
produce excellent audio for a mere 2.1 setup at that price
<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002TLSTGA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag
=wizardling-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=B00
2TLSTGA>. I've used pricy reference speakers for audio work and I reckon
the cheap Creature II's do a better job.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#5536

Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:

> Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 11-09-27 1:38 PM, Lewis wrote:
> > 
> > > It's a builtin speaker. on a tower. targetted at 'Professionals'. It's
> > > good enough to hear startup chimes and system beeps because that's what
> > > it's for.
> > 
> > Ah. Thanks for that. I've been trying to listen to Rites of Spring
> > through the built in speakers of my Mac Pro, and I wondered why it
> > didn't sound like it had in the concern hall.
> > 
> > Now I can try to focus on why I can't seem to see Saturn's rings using
> > the zoom on my iPhone camera.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > -j
> 
> *laughs*
> 
> Well I have to say my JBL Creature II speakers hooked up to my iMac
> produce excellent audio for a mere 2.1 setup at that price
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002TLSTGA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag
> =wizardling-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=B00
> 2TLSTGA>. I've used pricy reference speakers for audio work and I reckon
> the cheap Creature II's do a better job.

Whoops, those are the III's, which I've not used. Hmmm... I'm not sure
the II's are still sold.
-- 
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#5537

On 9/27/11   PDT 1:23 PM, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> Jamie Kahn Genet<jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>  wrote:

>> Well I have to say my JBL Creature II speakers hooked up to my iMac
>> produce excellent audio for a mere 2.1 setup at that price
>> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002TLSTGA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag
>> =wizardling-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=B00
>> 2TLSTGA>. I've used pricy reference speakers for audio work and I reckon
>> the cheap Creature II's do a better job.
>
> Whoops, those are the III's, which I've not used. Hmmm... I'm not sure
> the II's are still sold.

Back to a point earlier that may have been swallowed.....

Egg: I am pretty sure that no equalizer you can get for the Mac will 
give you a lounder sound than you can already eek out.

Certainly there're other options, the most intriguing of which might be 
headphones with a built in amp. Sorry, I have no experience in that 
dept, so no leads.

-- 
John McWilliams

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#5545

In article <1k8apng.1uxwopjhs8k5fN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 11-09-27 1:38 PM, Lewis wrote:
> > 
> > > It's a builtin speaker. on a tower. targetted at 'Professionals'. It's
> > > good enough to hear startup chimes and system beeps because that's what
> > > it's for.
> > 
> > Ah. Thanks for that. I've been trying to listen to Rites of Spring
> > through the built in speakers of my Mac Pro, and I wondered why it
> > didn't sound like it had in the concern hall.
> > 
> > Now I can try to focus on why I can't seem to see Saturn's rings using
> > the zoom on my iPhone camera.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > -j
> 
> *laughs*
> 
> Well I have to say my JBL Creature II speakers hooked up to my iMac
> produce excellent audio for a mere 2.1 setup at that price
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002TLSTGA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag
> =wizardling-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=B00
> 2TLSTGA>. I've used pricy reference speakers for audio work and I reckon
> the cheap Creature II's do a better job.

I'm using a rather old set of Klipsch ProMedia 4.1s hooked up to my Mac 
Pro, and have very much enjoyed them:

<http://gear.ign.com/articles/306/306251p1.html>

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#5544

In article <9eeldsFlcmU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> wrote:

> On 11-09-27 1:38 PM, Lewis wrote:
> 
> > It's a builtin speaker. on a tower. targetted at 'Professionals'. It's
> > good enough to hear startup chimes and system beeps because that's what
> > it's for.
> 
> Ah. Thanks for that. I've been trying to listen to Rites of Spring
> through the built in speakers of my Mac Pro, and I wondered why it
> didn't sound like it had in the concern hall.
> 
> Now I can try to focus on why I can't seem to see Saturn's rings using
> the zoom on my iPhone camera.

*guffaw*  : D

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#5698

In article <9eeldsFlcmU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody@goldmark.org> wrote:

> On 11-09-27 1:38 PM, Lewis wrote:
> 
> > It's a builtin speaker. on a tower. targetted at 'Professionals'. It's
> > good enough to hear startup chimes and system beeps because that's what
> > it's for.


> 
> Ah. Thanks for that. I've been trying to listen to Rites of Spring
> through the built in speakers of my Mac Pro, and I wondered why it
> didn't sound like it had in the concern hall.

 Laughing out loud. Bet you can't hear the pedal tone in the beginning 
of "Also Sprach Zarathustra", either.

> Now I can try to focus on why I can't seem to see Saturn's rings using
> the zoom on my iPhone camera.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -j

-- 
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#5548

On 2011-09-26 15:27:48 -0400, Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> said:

> In article
> <0001HW.CAA595700001A3B3B02919BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Sparky <see@thesig.net> wrote:
> 
>> I cannot find a stand-alone s/w equalizer utility for OS X. If I want to buy
>> Audio Hijack Pro (US$32) I can us that with another utility to give me an
>> equalizer.
>> 
>> Is there a single utility that will give a universal (ie, not just for
>> iTunes) equalizer control?
>> 
>> Thanks.
> 
> I have complained about this for a while. I have an Elgato TV tuner that
> does not have enough volume to run my headphones. and would like some
> boost. My outboard speakers powered through USB usually have sufficient
> volume. The sound quality of the Mac Pro, however is so lousy, that I
> need equalization. I do not understand why Apple does not make the
> iTunes equalizer available as a module.

Regarding your volume issues, I suggest you try an app called "Boom." 
Info here:

http://www.globaldelight.com/boom/

I can't help on a system-wide software equalizer. Everyone I know is a 
plug-in. I use a hardware EQ. Line out from my iMac to the EQ to a set 
of Bose Powered speakers. Big improvement over the internal speakers.

Paul

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#5518

You can try http://www.globaldelight.com/boom/

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