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Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software

Subject Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps
References (9 earlier) <v6g6mo$pqjo$1@dont-email.me> <v6hjtm$1ind6$1@news.samoylyk.net> <YJ9jO.37836$%gXc.1962@fx14.iad> <v6jdqv$1n2mk$1@news.samoylyk.net> <v77e10$11p46$3@news.mixmin.net>
From Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com>
Message-ID <vbUlO.46774$BFg.43483@fx13.iad> (permalink)
Organization UsenetServer - www.usenetserver.com
Date 2024-07-17 14:37 -0400

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On 2024-07-16 23:33, GLOBUS wrote:
> Wolf Greenblatt wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 08:07:20 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
>>
>>>> Three million iOS/macOS apps were vulnerable for a decade, and Apple 
>>>> didn't
>>>> even care to think about backing up their own claims of safety & 
>>>> security.
>>>
>>> I and others have made clear that this is not in Apple's court, and you
>>> have admitted that you don't understand 3rd party toolchains and code
>>> source, but you keep banging the same drum.
>>
>> While it's clear I don't understand how Apple could have allowed this 
>> hole
>> in their ecosystem to exist for a decade, what I do very clearly 
>> understand
>> is that Apple's safe & secure ecosystem claims are shown to be 
>> unsupported.
>>
>> Why does Apple say their system is safe & secure when obviously it's not?
> 
> The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic.
> First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when 
> there
> was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid.
> 
> If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if

Hmm, then please do tell us how Apple are responsible for 3rd party tool 
chains and orphaned 3rd party code?

As a warmup exercise, please cite a specific instance where:

- Some orphaned code, was
- taken over by a hacker, then
- modified to do harm, then
- released into the 3rd party toolchain ecosystem, thence
- integrated with the 3rd party toolchain, into
- someone else's application, that
- was released on Apple's App Store, and
- got past Apple's validity checking, into
- the wild, and (for bonus points)
- caused harm.

Provide links.

-- 
"It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
  the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
Winston Churchill

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Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2024-07-06 12:34 -0400
  Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-06 12:48 -0400
    Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2024-07-06 16:07 -0400
      Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 20:19 +0000
        Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-06 21:28 +0000
          Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 23:17 +0000
            Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2024-07-06 19:45 -0400
              Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-06 16:49 -0700
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2024-07-06 19:56 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-07 02:04 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-06 22:19 -0700
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-07 07:38 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-08 14:57 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-08 21:04 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 17:29 -0700
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-09 08:08 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-08 03:07 +0000
              Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-07 02:02 +0000
              Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-07 07:37 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2024-07-07 15:06 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 12:07 -0700
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-07 19:30 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2024-07-07 16:37 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-07 14:20 -0700
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-07 17:53 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-08 00:13 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-08 14:57 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-08 03:06 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-07 17:51 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-07-08 08:06 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2024-07-08 16:58 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 17:32 -0700
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-07-09 11:56 +0100
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2024-07-09 09:29 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-09 15:20 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2024-07-09 12:42 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-09 10:49 -0700
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-09 18:27 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-10 19:12 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-09 18:25 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-09 09:00 -0700
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-07-09 21:35 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-09 08:07 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Wolf Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> - 2024-07-09 09:26 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-09 09:03 -0700
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-09 12:51 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-09 12:48 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software GLOBUS <odilo.globocnik@schutzstaffel.de> - 2024-07-16 23:33 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-17 14:37 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-18 18:57 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software GLOBUS <odilo.globocnik@schutzstaffel.de> - 2024-07-18 20:14 -0400
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-19 10:42 -0400
            Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-07 02:01 +0000
              Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 12:45 -0700
              Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-08 02:32 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-08 14:59 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-08 20:51 +0000
                Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-07-08 13:53 -0700
      Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-07-06 16:20 -0400
      Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-06 21:28 +0000
        Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-07 02:47 +0000
          Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-07-07 03:21 +0000
            Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-07-07 06:33 +0000

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