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Re: Apple banned some of its customers' Macs for using Beeper

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On 2024-02-02, Sten deJoode <StendeJood@nospam.net> wrote:
> On 1 Feb 2024 15:51:15 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> You like to try to misrepresent what people say to build your little
>> straw men, but adults see right through that childish game.
>
> The fact that you were wrong the entire time

Nope, I never claimed Android users want an iPhone - that was you trying
to fabricate a straw man. And you failed at it.

> you're so angry.

I'm perfectly calm. You, on the other hand, are very obviously triggered
by the fact that Android users are desperate to use Apple servers
without owning Apple products.🙂

> It's not my fault you didn't get the logic that the people using
> Beeper were on Android phones (even though that was obvious to
> everyone else).

Another weak fabrication of yours. Is this really the best you can do,
Arlen? It's pretty pathetic. It's as if you believe everyone here will
just forget that what you say didn't happen. You must think people are
every bit as stupid and gullible as you. Unfortunately you're wrong, and
you have zero credibility. You're just low-level trolling. 😉 

>>> but just the mainframe server that Apple uses to communicate with
>>> iPhones.
>> 
>> No, they want to use the iMessage service. And the fact that you
>> think iMessage is run on one server says all we need to know about
>> your knowledge in this area. You're clueless as usual. 
>
> The service runs on mainframe servers

Nope, just servers.

> Apple designed iPhones using dumb terminal 

Bullshit. iPhones are much more powerful than dumb terminals. One clear
example is the inclusion of the A-series neural engine which allows
developers to use the Core ML and other frameworks to do on-device
machine learning, where many of Apple's competitors use cloud-based
machine learning processing which makes them more deserving of the term
dumb terminal and also compromise the privacy of their users. You're
desperately making these outright lies as if you think the rest of us
are just as dumb and gullible as you are, but those juvenile antics
won't work here.

>>> I just wish you'd have figured that out fifty posts ago
>> 
>> Projection. You are the one who started baselessly claiming this was
>> about iPhones fifty posts ago, and several people have called you out on
>> it from the beginning. You're not fooling anyone here.
>
> What's revealing is you finally figured out, after fifty posts, that
> Android users are on Android because they don't want to be on the iPhone

The fact that you think this isn't blatantly obvious to everyone here is
telling and says way more about you than anyone else. 😉 

> Earth to Jolly Roger. They're using Beeper with Android because they
> expressly do not want to have anything to do with the iPhone. Idiot.

They want to use a messaging service that is *exclusive* to Apple
products. 

>>> But when _they_ send an MMS attachment, they don't want it to work
>>> that way

No matter how hard you try, nothing you say changes the fact that this
isn't about SMS/MMS. 🤣

>>> They want the MMS to be sent over the Internet
>> 
>> Nope. They aren't interested in SMS or MMS.
>
> Here's where you're again wrong. They don't want the iPhone.

Nothing I said above was about iPhones, dip shit.

> What some people (who have crappy carrier plans) want is to use the Apple
> mainframe servers to send MMS attachments over the Internet without being
> charged by the carrier for those MMS attachments.

Get this through your thick head:
- iMessage servers aren't "mainframes".
- iPhones aren't "dumb terminals".
- iMessage has absolutely *nothing* to do with SMS/MMS messaging. 
- Android users who want access to iMessage aren't trying to send
  SMS/MMS messages.
- Androis users of Beeper and the like don't want to use other messaging
  services like WhatsApp or Signal - they want access to iMessage.

>> And they aren't interested in WhatsApp, Signal, or other internet
>> messaging apps.
>
> the dumb terminal model the iPhone uses is no different from the same
> model that WhatsApp uses.

And yet Android users are building apps to use iMessage rather than
using WhatsApp - peculiar. 🤣

>> They want to use iMessage, but without an Apple device, which is in
>> violation of the terms of service. You are *desperate* to move the
>> goal post, but it is firmly planted in the ground. 
>
> None of them want iMessage.

Untrue. It's exactly what they want.


> It was always the Apple users who were left out

Sure, pumpkin - that's why Beeper exists...

>> Get this through your incredibly thick head: SMS and MMS are not
>> internal technologies. Never have been. Never will be. 
>
> What you still don't understand, even after fifty posts, is that what those
> people want (who are charged for MMS attachments) is to send MMS over the
> Internet (which is what Beeper tried to allow those people to do).

Nope, Beeper didn't send MMS messages through iMessage server - never
has. You clearly don't know the difference between cellular-based
SMS/MMS and internet-based messaging services. You're out of your
league.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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Re: Apple banned some of its customers' Macs for using Beeper Sten deJoode <StendeJood@nospam.net> - 2024-01-31 19:05 -0500
  Re: Apple banned some of its customers' Macs for using Beeper Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-02-01 02:06 +0000
    Re: Apple banned some of its customers' Macs for using Beeper Sten deJoode <StendeJood@nospam.net> - 2024-01-31 22:02 -0500
      Re: Apple banned some of its customers' Macs for using Beeper Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-01-31 19:41 -0800
      Re: Apple banned some of its customers' Macs for using Beeper Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-02-01 05:25 +0000
        Re: Apple banned some of its customers' Macs for using Beeper Sten deJoode <StendeJood@nospam.net> - 2024-02-01 01:06 -0500
          Re: Apple banned some of its customers' Macs for using Beeper Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-02-01 15:51 +0000
            Re: Apple banned some of its customers' Macs for using Beeper Sten deJoode <StendeJood@nospam.net> - 2024-02-02 13:13 -0500
              Re: Apple banned some of its customers' Macs for using Beeper Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-02-03 01:07 +0000
                Re: Apple banned some of its customers' Macs for using Beeper Sten deJoode <StendeJood@nospam.net> - 2024-02-03 05:31 -0500
                Re: Apple banned some of its customers' Macs for using Beeper Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-02-03 17:16 +0000

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