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Re: Xterm configuration

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Xterm configuration
Date 2016-01-15 19:01 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2016-01-15, Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> writes:
>
>>On 2016-01-14 15:09, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>> I'm looking for a terminal emulator that can faithfully emulate a VT220 or
>>> newer terminal to use with software that uses its functions heavily,
>>> including some more obscure features.  So far other emulators have either
>
>>What obscure features?  Specifically.
>
> One I know of is the cursor positioning escape sequence.  CSI Pr ; Pc H
> where Pr and Pc are ASCII decimal numbers for row and column.
> (CSI is <ESC> [ or the 8 bit equivalent) When Pr and Pc are both specified
> it works. However, the spec states that if either Pr or Pc are omitted (or
> specified as 0), it is treated as if it was 1.  You can also omit the ";"
> if you omit Pc.  So the sequence CSI ; 7 H goes to Row 1, Column 7, and 
> both CSI 7 ; H and CSI 7 H goes to Row 7, Col 1, and CSI H goes to Row 1, 
> Column 1.  Some emulators don't do this right, and I've seen editors use 
> the shortened sequences.
>
> Generally I haven't investigated the details, rather I see if the output 
> of a few tools on VMS work correctly.  (I figure just about everyone here
> other than JF isn't familiar with VMS).  Specifically, two VMS editors
> ($ EDIT/EDT and EDIT/TPU), Notes and $ SHOW CLUSTER are usually enough to
> scare out a bug or two, or show whether the keypad works correctly.
>
> Somewhere on the net is a system you can telnet/SSH to and it exercizes
> just about every VTxxx function possible, and supposedly almost no
> emulators get everything (not counting non-applicable things like 
> initialize selftest) right.  It even knows of VTxxx bugs and you can
> tell if your emulator is bug-for-bug compatible.  I'll have to find it
> again, hope it still exists.  Haven't used it in years.

Honestly, I'm finding it hard to imagine why anyone cares this much.
Then again I don't spend copious amounts of time using the cursor in
terminal windows and so on.

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JR

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Xterm configuration moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-13 19:47 +0000
  Re: Xterm configuration Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-01-13 22:19 +0000
  Re: Xterm configuration JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-01-13 17:34 -0500
    Re: Xterm configuration moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-14 16:03 +0000
      Re: Xterm configuration JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-01-14 14:29 -0500
  Re: Xterm configuration Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-01-13 18:45 -0500
    Re: Xterm configuration moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-14 16:08 +0000
      Re: Xterm configuration Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-01-14 13:01 -0500
        Re: Xterm configuration moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-14 19:05 +0000
          Re: Xterm configuration Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-01-14 19:17 +0000
            Re: Xterm configuration JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-01-14 14:33 -0500
              Re: Xterm configuration Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-01-14 14:45 -0500
              Re: Xterm configuration Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-01-14 20:28 +0000
            Re: Xterm configuration Michael Moroney <moroney@TheWorld.com> - 2016-01-14 20:09 +0000
              Re: Xterm configuration Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-01-14 20:44 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-01-14 15:49 -0500
                Re: Xterm configuration Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-01-14 20:58 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-14 21:29 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2016-01-14 14:24 -0800
                Re: Xterm configuration billy@MIX.COM - 2016-01-14 23:09 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-01-15 02:37 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-01-15 07:28 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-01-15 11:17 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-01-15 14:38 +0000
              Re: Xterm configuration Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-01-15 02:29 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-01-20 22:06 -0500
                Re: Xterm configuration moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-25 17:15 +0000
              Re: Xterm configuration Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-01-15 08:31 -0500
                Re: Xterm configuration moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-15 18:11 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-01-15 19:01 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-01-15 14:21 -0500
                Re: Xterm configuration Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-01-15 19:57 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-15 21:10 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration billy@MIX.COM - 2016-01-15 21:30 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-01-15 22:39 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-01-15 22:39 +0000
                Re: Xterm configuration Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-01-16 09:10 -0500
                Re: Xterm configuration "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-01-20 22:09 -0500
                Re: Xterm configuration JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-01-21 01:05 -0500
                Re: Xterm configuration "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-01-21 12:15 -0500
                Re: Xterm configuration billy@MIX.COM - 2016-01-22 03:54 +0000
          Re: Xterm configuration Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-01-14 14:42 -0500
            Re: Xterm configuration JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-01-14 15:53 -0500
              Re: Xterm configuration Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-01-14 17:44 -0500
  Re: Xterm configuration Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-01-14 00:54 +0000
    Re: Xterm configuration Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-01-13 20:22 -0500
      Re: Xterm configuration Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-01-13 21:13 -0500
        Re: Xterm configuration Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-01-14 16:57 -0500
          Re: Xterm configuration JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-01-14 17:15 -0500
            Re: Xterm configuration Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-01-14 17:44 -0500
              Re: Xterm configuration JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-01-15 02:21 -0500
      Re: Xterm configuration "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-01-20 22:13 -0500
  Re: Xterm configuration Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2016-01-13 19:51 -0800
  Re: Xterm configuration "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-01-20 21:58 -0500

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