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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.apps |
| Date | 2017-04-04 18:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2017040418550753144-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> (permalink) |
| References | (2 earlier) <1n3x8nr.2o3ekl1jn7h8iN%RonTheGuy@null.invalid> <040420170023392529%star@sky.net> <do_ray_me-11E70F.15440704042017@46.sub-75-242-165.myvzw.com> <SMSdnXZs5IamknnFnZ2dnUU7-LHNnZ2d@giganews.com> <do_ray_me-AE6033.10530305042017@46.sub-75-242-165.myvzw.com> |
| Subject | Re: Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime |
On 2017-04-04 23:53:03 +0000, dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> said:
> In article <SMSdnXZs5IamknnFnZ2dnUU7-LHNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> In article <040420170023392529%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> $9.99 per month for Lightroom and
>>>> Photoshop is a no-brainer for me.
>>>
>>> This subscriber continues his breathtaking insensitivity towards other
>>> people. He would be a shoo in for a place on Donald Trump's team.
>>>
>>
>> I have to agree with Davoud on this question. The Adobe PS+LR CC
>> subscription for $9.99/month is a no-brainer.
>>
>
> Depends on what exact question we are discussing. You think if someone
> could have a regular use for the subscription software (see Calum's
> good point), they should obviously use it?
Over the years I have developed a Lightroom + Photoshop workflow which
I am very familiar with, and as a result in my photography enthusiast
mind I can produce images which first and foremost satisfy me. However,
these days Lightroom has become a more than adequate photo editor,
especially if you do not need PS for compositing. So LR is my primary
processing/editing tool.
That said, I have also installed various LR & PS plugins and upgrades
to those plugins. Along with those, I have explored and bought most of
the various alternative software, and I find myself impressed with all
they have to offer.
>
> But now, why is this *so obvious*? Perhaps the window shoppers on this
> matter are short of cash and perhaps they can't make it pay for them.
Perhaps that is true, but as for myself, I am an amateur, hobbyist,
enthusiast photographer, and in all my years of photography I have only
had one individual insist on paying me for the work I did. So I haven't
made it pay for me.
Photography is strictly for my pleasure and over the years I have spent
tens of thousands of dollars on cameras, lenses, accessories and
software. As a matter of fact, today I just spent $2000+ on a new
camera body and some other stuff from B&H.
> Perhaps a lot of other things about *other people*. Amazing - or not -
> how so many people have such very narrow view of others! Very
> Republican really!
My particular political sensibilities would have preferred a Bernie
Sanders White House.
>> If you don't want to go that route then the best current non-Adobe options
>> are Luminar, Affinity Photo, & Pixelmator.
>
> In other words there are other options.
Yup!
> By the way, wtf do you guys do with all this fancy latest software?
> Making the world a better place? I get along fine with CS4 (for my
> business and personal needs)... but then I am mainly stuck on Snow
> Leopard and it may prove harder later on.
Unfortunately CS4 on Snow Leopard, while very capable is running on
borrowed time. When you finally upgrade/update your system, CS4 might
not be able to follow. Then you are going to have to decide just how
much you need PS. One of those other options might suit you better, or
you might take the plunge into the $9.99/month Adobe CC subscription.
Today, if I had to make do with one of the options I would seriously
consider Luminar, AlienSkin Exposure X2, or On1 Photo RAW 2017 all of
which work superbly as standalone apps.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
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Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime RonTheGuy@null.invalid (Ron) - 2017-04-02 15:04 -0700
Re: Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-02 18:13 -0400
Re: Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime RonTheGuy@null.invalid (Ron) - 2017-04-03 19:56 -0700
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Re: Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-04-04 15:44 +1100
Re: Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-04 16:25 -0500
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Re: Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-06 19:11 +0000
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Re: Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-04-05 10:53 +1100
Re: Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-04 18:55 -0700
Re: Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-04-05 12:59 +1100
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Re: Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-05 14:22 -0700
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Re: [OT]Ping: Phillip Jones (was : Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-05-21 13:04 +0000
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Re: [OT]Ping: Phillip Jones (was : Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime) Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-05-21 13:04 +0000
Re: [OT]Ping: Phillip Jones (was : Photoshop CS4 and Java SE 6 Runtime) burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-05-21 11:51 -0400
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