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NSA and Intel

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First post2013-07-14 11:03 +0800
Last post2014-03-01 07:02 -0500
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  NSA and Intel Anonymous <noreply@breaka.net> - 2013-07-14 11:03 +0800
    Re: NSA and Intel Intel Guy <Intel@Guy.com> - 2013-07-15 12:10 -0400
      Re: NSA and Intel Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2013-08-15 13:03 -0400
        Re: NSA and Intel gran.pc@gmail.com - 2013-09-16 05:28 -0700
          Re: NSA and Intel Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2013-09-22 14:26 -0400
    Re: NSA and Intel "Jim" <gtfo@stfu.invalid> - 2014-03-01 07:02 -0500

#277 — NSA and Intel

FromAnonymous <noreply@breaka.net>
Date2013-07-14 11:03 +0800
SubjectNSA and Intel
Message-ID<18248487e7c2f35a5ba8403db8539efb@breaka.net>

Why backdoor just one brand of compiler (since there are several), when you could backdoor the architecture?
I'm pretty sure there is a special sequence of intel instructions which open the unicorn gate, and pipe a copy of all memory writes to NSA's server.

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#278

FromIntel Guy <Intel@Guy.com>
Date2013-07-15 12:10 -0400
Message-ID<51E41F07.1C88C0EA@Guy.com>
In reply to#277
Anonymous wrote:
 
> Why backdoor just one brand of compiler (since there are several),
> when you could backdoor the architecture?
>
> I'm pretty sure there is a special sequence of intel instructions
> which open the unicorn gate, and pipe a copy of all memory writes
> to NSA's server.

You don't think that there have been enough people running enough
network-snooping tools and firewall appliances over the past 15-20 years
that would have discovered any back-channel communication to the NSA?

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#279

FromYousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com>
Date2013-08-15 13:03 -0400
Message-ID<520d09d8$1@news.bnb-lp.com>
In reply to#278
On 15/07/2013 12:10 PM, Intel Guy wrote:
> Anonymous wrote:
>
>> Why backdoor just one brand of compiler (since there are several),
>> when you could backdoor the architecture?
>>
>> I'm pretty sure there is a special sequence of intel instructions
>> which open the unicorn gate, and pipe a copy of all memory writes
>> to NSA's server.
>
> You don't think that there have been enough people running enough
> network-snooping tools and firewall appliances over the past 15-20 years
> that would have discovered any back-channel communication to the NSA?

Most likely this wouldn't be sent over the Net, but directly accessed 
through an impounded laptop inside an NSA or CIA lab somewhere.

	Yousuf Khan

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#281

Fromgran.pc@gmail.com
Date2013-09-16 05:28 -0700
Message-ID<81d25171-464f-4179-89a9-b63eca0026e5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#279
On Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:03:20 PM UTC+2, Yousuf Khan wrote:
> On 15/07/2013 12:10 PM, Intel Guy wrote:
> 
> > Anonymous wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> >> Why backdoor just one brand of compiler (since there are several),
> 
> >> when you could backdoor the architecture?
> 
> >>
> 
> >> I'm pretty sure there is a special sequence of intel instructions
> 
> >> which open the unicorn gate, and pipe a copy of all memory writes
> 
> >> to NSA's server.
> 
> >
> 
> > You don't think that there have been enough people running enough
> 
> > network-snooping tools and firewall appliances over the past 15-20 years
> 
> > that would have discovered any back-channel communication to the NSA?
> 
> 
> 
> Most likely this wouldn't be sent over the Net, but directly accessed 
> 
> through an impounded laptop inside an NSA or CIA lab somewhere.
> 
> 
> 
> 	Yousuf Khan

Yup, they'd magically get access to your computer through a magical invisible pipe in their lab. Don't tell anyone though.

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#283

FromYousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com>
Date2013-09-22 14:26 -0400
Message-ID<523f3655$1@news.bnb-lp.com>
In reply to#281
On 16/09/2013 8:28 AM, gran.pc@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:03:20 PM UTC+2, Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> On 15/07/2013 12:10 PM, Intel Guy wrote:
>>> You don't think that there have been enough people running enough
>>
>>> network-snooping tools and firewall appliances over the past 15-20 years
>>
>>> that would have discovered any back-channel communication to the NSA?
>>
>>
>>
>> Most likely this wouldn't be sent over the Net, but directly accessed
>>
>> through an impounded laptop inside an NSA or CIA lab somewhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> 	Yousuf Khan
>
> Yup, they'd magically get access to your computer through a magical invisible pipe in their lab. Don't tell anyone though.

You've never heard of the term, "confiscation"?

	Yousuf Khan

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#338

From"Jim" <gtfo@stfu.invalid>
Date2014-03-01 07:02 -0500
Message-ID<xoadnfgeFq7GUYzOnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#277
Straight from the CEO's mouth.
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1ycs5l/hi_reddit_im_brian_krzanich_ceo_of_intel_ask_me/cfltop4
"First, let me be clear that Intel doesn't participate in the NSA programs 
described in recent news reports. Intel does not participate in anyone's 
efforts to decrease security in technology. We don't provide methods for 
unauthorized access to our products..we don't create back doors.
 On the question of BSD... BSD did not drop our RDRAND. FreeBSD will 
continue using RDRAND to feed the OS entropy pool, feeding its output into 
another PRNG in the process. Privacy is really important, it is important to 
me and it's important to Intel. we've always been clear about our policies 
in this area..and we understand the concern on the part of individuals and 
governments and companies. We invest in training, network security, 
information security, code reviews and testing to minimize the risk of our 
product behaving in an unexpected way. Given the environment there has been 
a lot of speculation and misinformation about our products and I want folks 
to know we constantly work to improve the security of our products. That is 
a never ending process for us.

and you can tell this is really me.... from all of the ellipses :-)" 

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