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| Started by | Anonymous <noreply@breaka.net> |
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| First post | 2013-07-14 11:03 +0800 |
| Last post | 2014-03-01 07:02 -0500 |
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NSA and Intel Anonymous <noreply@breaka.net> - 2013-07-14 11:03 +0800
Re: NSA and Intel Intel Guy <Intel@Guy.com> - 2013-07-15 12:10 -0400
Re: NSA and Intel Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2013-08-15 13:03 -0400
Re: NSA and Intel gran.pc@gmail.com - 2013-09-16 05:28 -0700
Re: NSA and Intel Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2013-09-22 14:26 -0400
Re: NSA and Intel "Jim" <gtfo@stfu.invalid> - 2014-03-01 07:02 -0500
| From | Anonymous <noreply@breaka.net> |
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| Date | 2013-07-14 11:03 +0800 |
| Subject | NSA and Intel |
| Message-ID | <18248487e7c2f35a5ba8403db8539efb@breaka.net> |
Why backdoor just one brand of compiler (since there are several), when you could backdoor the architecture? I'm pretty sure there is a special sequence of intel instructions which open the unicorn gate, and pipe a copy of all memory writes to NSA's server.
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| From | Intel Guy <Intel@Guy.com> |
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| Date | 2013-07-15 12:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <51E41F07.1C88C0EA@Guy.com> |
| In reply to | #277 |
Anonymous wrote: > Why backdoor just one brand of compiler (since there are several), > when you could backdoor the architecture? > > I'm pretty sure there is a special sequence of intel instructions > which open the unicorn gate, and pipe a copy of all memory writes > to NSA's server. You don't think that there have been enough people running enough network-snooping tools and firewall appliances over the past 15-20 years that would have discovered any back-channel communication to the NSA?
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| From | Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2013-08-15 13:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <520d09d8$1@news.bnb-lp.com> |
| In reply to | #278 |
On 15/07/2013 12:10 PM, Intel Guy wrote: > Anonymous wrote: > >> Why backdoor just one brand of compiler (since there are several), >> when you could backdoor the architecture? >> >> I'm pretty sure there is a special sequence of intel instructions >> which open the unicorn gate, and pipe a copy of all memory writes >> to NSA's server. > > You don't think that there have been enough people running enough > network-snooping tools and firewall appliances over the past 15-20 years > that would have discovered any back-channel communication to the NSA? Most likely this wouldn't be sent over the Net, but directly accessed through an impounded laptop inside an NSA or CIA lab somewhere. Yousuf Khan
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| From | gran.pc@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2013-09-16 05:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <81d25171-464f-4179-89a9-b63eca0026e5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #279 |
On Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:03:20 PM UTC+2, Yousuf Khan wrote: > On 15/07/2013 12:10 PM, Intel Guy wrote: > > > Anonymous wrote: > > > > > >> Why backdoor just one brand of compiler (since there are several), > > >> when you could backdoor the architecture? > > >> > > >> I'm pretty sure there is a special sequence of intel instructions > > >> which open the unicorn gate, and pipe a copy of all memory writes > > >> to NSA's server. > > > > > > You don't think that there have been enough people running enough > > > network-snooping tools and firewall appliances over the past 15-20 years > > > that would have discovered any back-channel communication to the NSA? > > > > Most likely this wouldn't be sent over the Net, but directly accessed > > through an impounded laptop inside an NSA or CIA lab somewhere. > > > > Yousuf Khan Yup, they'd magically get access to your computer through a magical invisible pipe in their lab. Don't tell anyone though.
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| From | Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2013-09-22 14:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <523f3655$1@news.bnb-lp.com> |
| In reply to | #281 |
On 16/09/2013 8:28 AM, gran.pc@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:03:20 PM UTC+2, Yousuf Khan wrote: >> On 15/07/2013 12:10 PM, Intel Guy wrote: >>> You don't think that there have been enough people running enough >> >>> network-snooping tools and firewall appliances over the past 15-20 years >> >>> that would have discovered any back-channel communication to the NSA? >> >> >> >> Most likely this wouldn't be sent over the Net, but directly accessed >> >> through an impounded laptop inside an NSA or CIA lab somewhere. >> >> >> >> Yousuf Khan > > Yup, they'd magically get access to your computer through a magical invisible pipe in their lab. Don't tell anyone though. You've never heard of the term, "confiscation"? Yousuf Khan
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| From | "Jim" <gtfo@stfu.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-03-01 07:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <xoadnfgeFq7GUYzOnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #277 |
Straight from the CEO's mouth. http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1ycs5l/hi_reddit_im_brian_krzanich_ceo_of_intel_ask_me/cfltop4 "First, let me be clear that Intel doesn't participate in the NSA programs described in recent news reports. Intel does not participate in anyone's efforts to decrease security in technology. We don't provide methods for unauthorized access to our products..we don't create back doors. On the question of BSD... BSD did not drop our RDRAND. FreeBSD will continue using RDRAND to feed the OS entropy pool, feeding its output into another PRNG in the process. Privacy is really important, it is important to me and it's important to Intel. we've always been clear about our policies in this area..and we understand the concern on the part of individuals and governments and companies. We invest in training, network security, information security, code reviews and testing to minimize the risk of our product behaving in an unexpected way. Given the environment there has been a lot of speculation and misinformation about our products and I want folks to know we constantly work to improve the security of our products. That is a never ending process for us. and you can tell this is really me.... from all of the ellipses :-)"
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