Re: The end of the road for the DIY PC?

From	"R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, comp.sys.intel, alt.comp.hardware.amd.x86-64
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Subject	Re: The end of the road for the DIY PC?
Date	2014-07-31 20:30 +0100
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"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> Intel has announced that they will stop making replaceable CPU's after 
> Haswell. From now on, all CPU's are supposed to be in BGA packaging, which 
> means you can only attach CPU's to the motherboard by soldiering them on. 
> You won't be seeing these in any home DIY's toolkit, so it's the end of 
> the road for that upgrade mechanism.
>
> I've been upgrading my original system since 1987, and right now there's 
> no original pieces remaining on it, but I can trace each of the pieces 
> back in a chain to the original 8088 PC-XT clone that I had bought back 
> then. I suppose it was meant to happen, not many people build their own 
> PC's anymore, and it's been cheaper to buy a full brand-new system for 
> many years now rather than upgrading it.
>
> Although this is just an Intel announcement, and AMD hasn't said it would 
> do the same thing, but I don't see AMD not following suit with this, it'll 
> help their financial situation too, and probably help them even more.
>
> I suppose you could keep upgrading if you buy a full new motherboard 
> alongside your CPU, you'd probably have to buy it with new memory also.
>
> Yousuf Khan

Well you can always put them on a daughter board (like AMD Slot x board).

I expect to see the main disk in Flash [usually] on the motherboard within 
five years and certainly in a slot (e.g. M-Sata or PCIe-3)

Years ago disk controllers, I/O, video etc. all used to be on boards plugged 
into the main bus.  I am currently nearing ordering up the bits for a new 
PC.  There will not be any cards plugged in the bus.

>
> Intel’s Haswell Could Be Last Interchangeable Desktop Microprocessors - 
> Report - X-bit labs
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20121122022244_Intel_s_Haswell_Could_Be_Last_Interchangeable_Desktop_Microprocessors_Report.html

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