Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!feeder2.ecngs.de!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.bt.com!news.bt.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:29:57 -0500 From: "R. Mark Clayton" Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel,alt.comp.hardware.amd.x86-64 References: <50b14e37$1@news.bnb-lp.com> Subject: Re: The end of the road for the DIY PC? Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:30:36 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Message-ID: Lines: 40 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-jF7VBoIMU8WXEbbTI9A4d01kpJK/sfxraQB+GQ/YDdWckuZeHgBUEC0/VbE1YEjWGItPOCHxxPyQxwQ!L3nRKw+cP0XSkzxI3oQFjFjs2cVpLb68p896KNu3bHwk7/v3ig7qFDCKi2LS8O8p8NNXptn+TZg= X-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3165 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips:1267 comp.sys.intel:350 "Yousuf Khan" wrote in message news:50b14e37$1@news.bnb-lp.com... > Intel has announced that they will stop making replaceable CPU's after > Haswell. From now on, all CPU's are supposed to be in BGA packaging, which > means you can only attach CPU's to the motherboard by soldiering them on. > You won't be seeing these in any home DIY's toolkit, so it's the end of > the road for that upgrade mechanism. > > I've been upgrading my original system since 1987, and right now there's > no original pieces remaining on it, but I can trace each of the pieces > back in a chain to the original 8088 PC-XT clone that I had bought back > then. I suppose it was meant to happen, not many people build their own > PC's anymore, and it's been cheaper to buy a full brand-new system for > many years now rather than upgrading it. > > Although this is just an Intel announcement, and AMD hasn't said it would > do the same thing, but I don't see AMD not following suit with this, it'll > help their financial situation too, and probably help them even more. > > I suppose you could keep upgrading if you buy a full new motherboard > alongside your CPU, you'd probably have to buy it with new memory also. > > Yousuf Khan Well you can always put them on a daughter board (like AMD Slot x board). I expect to see the main disk in Flash [usually] on the motherboard within five years and certainly in a slot (e.g. M-Sata or PCIe-3) Years ago disk controllers, I/O, video etc. all used to be on boards plugged into the main bus. I am currently nearing ordering up the bits for a new PC. There will not be any cards plugged in the bus. > > Intel’s Haswell Could Be Last Interchangeable Desktop Microprocessors - > Report - X-bit labs > http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20121122022244_Intel_s_Haswell_Could_Be_Last_Interchangeable_Desktop_Microprocessors_Report.html