Re: Intel CPU prices going up?

From	Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.sys.intel, alt.windows7.general
Subject	Re: Intel CPU prices going up?
Date	2018-10-19 16:29 +0100
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On 19/10/2018 03:42, Eric Stevens wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:44:04 +0100, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>>
>> Exactly, 'says nothing', and since then there has only been controversy,
>> no killer results to settle the question either way.  As I have said
>> already, that suggests that the effect of cosmic rays on cloud formation
>> and therefore climate is small compared with other more important
>> factors such as CO2, for which we had clear, unambiguous laboratory
>> results as long ago as the 1850s, and a good correlation from Berkeley,
>> as already linked.
>>
>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02082-2
>>>
>>> [ selective quoting removed ]
>>>
>>> ... a second step.
>>
>> No, the effect is not large enough to explain the current level of
>> warming, as the discussion section makes clear:
> 
> But Svensmark is making progress. See
> http://www.dtu.dk/english/service/phonebook/person?id=38287&tab=2&qt=dtupublicationquery

But the effect will never be large enough to explain any more than a 
small fraction of the current warming.

>> Now, if it is really true that cosmic rays are causing clouds, it's
>> certain that those clouds, besides trapping heat by absorbing radiation
>> from the ground, will also reflect a portion of the incident energy from 
>> the sun back into space.  AFAIK, no-one has tested which will actually
>> be greater, and thereby whether cooling or warming will actually occur!
> 
> Well one thing is certain: that is that the behaviour of clouds is not
> properly understood.

Which makes it unscientific, as per Occam's razor, to assume that in 
some complicated way their creation by cosmic rays would somehow explain 
global warming, when we already have a far simpler and well understood 
explanation that correlates well with observation, CO2.

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