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Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History!

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  Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-22 10:33 -0600
    Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! Antoine Vignau <antoine.vignau@laposte.net> - 2014-12-22 10:02 -0800
      Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-22 12:54 -0600
    Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "martin.doherty@undisclosed.com" <martindoherty377@gmail.com> - 2014-12-22 10:04 -0800
      Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-22 13:04 -0600
        Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! STYNX <Jonas.Groenhagen@gmx.de> - 2014-12-22 12:05 -0800
          Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-22 14:35 -0600
    Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Michael \"AppleWin Debugger Dev\"" <michael.pohoreski@gmail.com> - 2014-12-22 13:11 -0800
    Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> - 2014-12-22 20:48 -0500
      Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-22 20:40 -0600
        Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> - 2014-12-22 22:15 -0500
          Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> - 2014-12-22 22:31 -0500
            Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-22 21:43 -0600
              Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> - 2014-12-22 23:26 -0500
    Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! awanderin <awanderin@gmail.com> - 2014-12-22 23:01 -0700
      Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-23 05:34 -0600
    Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! osgeld@cheesefactory.us - 2014-12-23 23:58 -0800
      Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-24 08:25 -0600
      Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-24 12:14 -0600
        Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Michael 'AppleWin Debugger Dev'" <michael.pohoreski@gmail.com> - 2014-12-24 10:30 -0800
          Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! osgeld@cheesefactory.us - 2014-12-24 11:35 -0800
            Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! osgeld@cheesefactory.us - 2014-12-24 11:36 -0800
              Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-24 13:57 -0600
                Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! osgeld@cheesefactory.us - 2014-12-26 01:07 -0800
          Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-24 13:41 -0600
            Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Michael 'AppleWin Debugger Dev'" <michael.pohoreski@gmail.com> - 2014-12-24 12:46 -0800
          Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! wssimms@gmail.com - 2014-12-26 11:52 -0800
            Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Michael 'AppleWin Debugger Dev'" <michael.pohoreski@gmail.com> - 2014-12-26 12:48 -0800
              Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-26 16:50 -0600
              Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2014-12-26 17:01 -0600
                Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-26 17:13 -0600
            Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-12-26 16:47 -0600
              Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Michael 'AppleWin Debugger Dev'" <michael.pohoreski@gmail.com> - 2014-12-26 15:18 -0800
              Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2014-12-26 17:28 -0600
                Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Michael 'AppleWin Debugger Dev'" <michael.pohoreski@gmail.com> - 2014-12-26 16:06 -0800
                  Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2014-12-26 19:30 -0600
                  Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! Vladimir Ivanov <none@none.tld> - 2014-12-27 12:53 +0200
                    Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! mdj <mdj.mdj@gmail.com> - 2014-12-28 04:42 -0800
                      Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! Vladimir Ivanov <none@none.tld> - 2014-12-28 23:17 +0200
    Re: Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History! "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2015-01-20 05:58 -0600

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#23118 — Announcing: the Release of the Best Apple IIe Graphics Converter on the Planet and in History!

Seriously.

http://www.appleoldies.ca/bmp2dhr/

Beta - First Release Candidate

MS-DOS Version not updated yet! 

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#23119

On Monday, December 22, 2014 5:33:51 PM UTC+1, Bill Buckels wrote:
> Seriously.
> 
> http://www.appleoldies.ca/bmp2dhr/
> 
> Beta - First Release Candidate
> 
> MS-DOS Version not updated yet!

That's pretty good, congratulations,
av

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#23121

"Antoine Vignau" <antoine.vignau@laposte.net> wrote:
>That's pretty good, congratulations...

You'd better congratulate yourself and Sheldon too:)

Bill 

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#23120

On Monday, December 22, 2014 11:33:51 AM UTC-5, Bill Buckels wrote:
> Seriously.
> 
> http://www.appleoldies.ca/bmp2dhr/
> 
> Beta - First Release Candidate
> 
> MS-DOS Version not updated yet!

I believe it. Mind = blown. Thanks Bill for making this happen, and also for the excellent documentation and communication (as usual).

Martin

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#23122

"martin.doherty@undisclosed.com" <martindoherty377@gmail.com> wrote:
>Thanks Bill for making this happen, and also for the excellent 
>documentation and communication (as usual).
Hi Martin,

Thank you but I was heavily coached:) Like I say "standard parts"... this 
truly is "grunt programming". Keeping it small enough to run in MS-DOS 
memory-wise and keeping my promise to Sheldon that I'd make a different 
converter than his are the only two things that kept me awake long enough to 
finish this to this point. I'll be doing some more polishing of the code 
before it's finally version 1.0.

As far as docs go, I've got about 10-20 or so already mostly written... 
it'll take a week or so to get the html versions out there and I have cc65 
demo programs that work with this stuff still to distribute etc. But wanted 
to join the Christmas Rush!

Have a good one!

Bill

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#23125

On Monday, December 22, 2014 8:04:25 PM UTC+1, Bill Buckels wrote:
> "mar...@undisclosed.com" <martin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Thanks Bill for making this happen, and also for the excellent 
> >documentation and communication (as usual).
> Hi Martin,
> 
> Thank you but I was heavily coached:) Like I say "standard parts"... this 
> truly is "grunt programming". Keeping it small enough to run in MS-DOS 
> memory-wise and keeping my promise to Sheldon that I'd make a different 
> converter than his are the only two things that kept me awake long enough to 
> finish this to this point. I'll be doing some more polishing of the code 
> before it's finally version 1.0.
> 
> As far as docs go, I've got about 10-20 or so already mostly written... 
> it'll take a week or so to get the html versions out there and I have cc65 
> demo programs that work with this stuff still to distribute etc. But wanted 
> to join the Christmas Rush!
> 
> Have a good one!
> 
> Bill

The results speak for themselves :-D

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#23126

"STYNX" <Jonas.Groenhagen@gmx.de> wrote:
>The results speak for themselves :-D

But they're not WOZ approved!

OTH the Apple II is not Buckels Approved. At least not yet, but it's slowly 
getting closer. Perhaps in another year or two.

Bill

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#23128

Very nice job!

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#23133

"Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> wrote in 
message news:m79h5a$9i5$1@speranza.aioe.org... 
> Seriously. 
> 
> http://www.appleoldies.ca/bmp2dhr/ 

http://www.appleoldies.ca/cc65/programs/dhgr/bmp2dhr.zip 

Bill, please fix this link. It still says 'bmp2hr.zip' 

Thank you, 

Bill Garber - I love my 
C1 D0 D0 CC C5 A0 C9 C9 C7 D3 
http://www.sepa-electronics.com 

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#23135

"Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> wrote:
>Bill, please fix this link. It still says 'bmp2hr.zip'

So how do you like the program?

Bill

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#23136

"Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> wrote in message 
news:m7ako2$313$1@speranza.aioe.org... 
> "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> wrote: 
>>Bill, please fix this link. It still says 'bmp2hr.zip' 
> 
> So how do you like the program? 
> 
> Bill 

That's another point, it would be nice if I could get 
it to work.  I see the window open and immediately it 
closes.  I don't get to do anything with it.  

I'll try going to the Command window first and type 
it in.  That just occurred to me that it must be an 
command line program. 

Bill Garber - I love my 
C1 D0 D0 CC C5 A0 C9 C9 C7 D3 
http://www.sepa-electronics.com 

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#23137

"Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:Wdudndf7r4DsQwXJnZ2dnUVZ7tSdnZ2d@giganews.com... 
> 
> "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> wrote in message 
> news:m7ako2$313$1@speranza.aioe.org... 
>> "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> wrote: 
>>>Bill, please fix this link. It still says 'bmp2hr.zip' 
>> 
>> So how do you like the program? 
>> 
>> Bill 
> 
> That's another point, it would be nice if I could get 
> it to work.  I see the window open and immediately it 
> closes.  I don't get to do anything with it.  
> 
> I'll try going to the Command window first and type 
> it in.  That just occurred to me that it must be an 
> command line program. 

Ok, now that I've gotten it to work, it worked.  

Only I converted 'rwizard.bmp' so I don't really know 
how I like it until I have a BMP that I want to use 
over on the //e or IIgs.  I have some that I would 
like to see on the IIgs, but I have so much going on 
right now.  Everything must have a purpose Neo, so 
it may be a while before I do anything with B2D.exe 
seriously. 

Otherwise, I do like it. I'll like it more when it 
works in the GUI.   8>) 

Bill Garber - I love my 
C1 D0 D0 CC C5 A0 C9 C9 C7 D3 
http://www.sepa-electronics.com 

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#23138

"Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> wrote:
>I'll like it more when it works in the GUI.   8>)

If you and I live that long:)

Bill

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#23141

"Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> wrote in message 
news:m7aocc$9ed$1@speranza.aioe.org... 
> "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> wrote: 
>>I'll like it more when it works in the GUI.   8>) 
> 
> If you and I live that long:) 
> 
> Bill 

I'm betting that I'll last until next Friday.  LOL 

Bill Garber - I love my 
C1 D0 D0 CC C5 A0 C9 C9 C7 D3 
http://www.sepa-electronics.com 

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#23142

"Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> writes:

> Seriously.
>
> http://www.appleoldies.ca/bmp2dhr/
>
> Beta - First Release Candidate
>
> MS-DOS Version not updated yet! 

That is impressive!  Looks better than I thought DHGR could look.  Even
HGR looks better than I would have guessed possible.

--
Jerry    awanderin at gmail dot com

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#23143

"awanderin" <awanderin@gmail.com> wrote:
>That is impressive!  Looks better than I thought DHGR could look.  Even HGR 
>looks better than I would have guessed possible.

Thanks for the feedback and the compliment Jerry. Sheldon Simms AppleWin 
NTSC makes a cool presentation and his conversion palettes also help a great 
deal to make this look good:)

Interesting how Apple Computer witheld dithering technology and 
capitalization of composite video.

Bill

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#23166

think it should be noted my screenshots were from a real apple IIc whereas applewin does not render identically the same as the real machine, in fact its about 75% close to what the real metal does on my tv tuner card does 

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#23167

<osgeld@cheesefactory.us> wrote:
>think it should be noted

Send your Apple II output files to me and I'll revise my documentation.

Bill 

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#23173

<osgeld@cheesefactory.us> wrote:
>whereas applewin does not render identically the same as the real machine, 
>in fact its about 75% close to what the real metal does on my tv tuner card 
>does

After some more thought...

It is more important to note that the screemshots in this document of mine 
were from AppleWin NTSC which is in fact considered accurate, and likely a 
great deal more accurate than something from a TV tuner card when it comes 
to real Apple II colors.

I also think you need to review the entire context of this document of mine, 
and understand its "historiczal significance" before requesting any changes. 
I would also appreciate the original images that you have used for your 
conversions as well as the real Apple II output for your conversions before 
I put further time into this request.

Your BASIC concept of plotting is a good one and could be easily applied to 
BLOADING a 16 color bmp created from a 6 color palette in The GIMP much like 
Cybernesto's VBMP. I used the same approach to create raster overlays in an 
Autolisp (Autocad) script writer written in compiled BASIC in the 80's on a 
PC XT.

Setting the palette bits using groups of 7 or 14 after plotting would work 
essentially the same way as what Sheldon and I are doing in our HGR 
convertersion code. Your end result would not need our converters; it would 
be a "Classic" and Pure AppleSoft BASIC program. It would not require the 
overhead of a script either nor some wierd scripting language. Just a 16 
color BMP with a palette to be mapped from.

If you are adamant about me changing this document without providing me (all 
of us) with both the real output and the original images for a more detailed 
comparison, I can as easily remove all mention of the Ghetto converter, but 
I think you would be further ahead putting some effort into this. Ghetto is 
fundamentally a good idea. It's not a hack.

Bill

 

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#23175

On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:15:00 AM UTC-8, Bill Buckels wrote:
> It is more important to note that the screemshots in this document of mine 
> were from AppleWin NTSC which is in fact considered accurate,

*mostly* accurate :-)

The white has WAY too much ringing (I believe the square wave approximation probably needs another few passes)

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