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| Started by | J <John_news@demon_ology.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2012-04-03 10:32 +0100 |
| Last post | 2012-04-17 21:14 +0100 |
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Barclays internet banking J <John_news@demon_ology.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 10:32 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 14:45 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 15:51 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 16:35 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-04-03 18:24 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 21:38 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking. (getting OT) Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 22:57 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 05:39 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-04-13 21:08 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-14 19:34 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 20:12 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-03 23:17 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 18:40 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 19:52 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 22:18 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 23:02 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 09:41 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:07 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:19 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:35 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 14:23 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 16:09 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 17:42 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-05 11:59 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 14:06 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 14:16 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Stewart Brodie <stewart.brodie@ntlworld.com> - 2012-04-10 21:20 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-10 21:56 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-10 22:28 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-04-11 13:23 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 14:01 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 16:35 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-12 20:06 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 12:51 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 15:20 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:08 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 10:32 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-05 12:03 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-04 21:22 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 22:19 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 23:25 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 00:04 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 19:02 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-05 20:13 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Graham Thurlwell <nospam@jades.org> - 2012-04-16 22:40 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 05:56 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 10:43 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 11:06 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 11:18 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 11:19 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 13:04 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-04-19 21:41 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 22:07 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 23:18 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 23:12 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-20 09:24 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 22:25 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 23:10 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 12:25 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 13:05 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 13:48 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 14:03 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 14:11 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 17:16 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-17 14:14 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 14:43 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-17 15:31 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-17 17:18 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 12:04 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 12:37 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Robert King <rdk13@cam.ac.uk> - 2012-04-18 14:30 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 14:56 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2012-04-03 20:22 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 06:09 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking A.Lefevre <lefev@freeuk.com> - 2012-04-06 16:24 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-06 19:24 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-04-06 18:36 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking patric <patric@invalid.com> - 2012-04-07 02:05 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-07 05:28 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-07 11:27 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-07 21:54 +0000
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-12 21:39 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 22:42 +0000
Re: Barclays internet banking Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-04-13 08:22 +0100
Banking "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 21:30 +0200
Re: Banking Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 19:01 +0200
Re: Barclays internet banking Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-04-10 19:33 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-10 22:30 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking A.Lefevre <lefev@freeuk.com> - 2012-04-10 23:10 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2012-04-11 09:11 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 11:59 +0100
Re: Barclays internet banking A.Lefevre <lefev@freeuk.com> - 2012-04-17 21:14 +0100
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| From | J <John_news@demon_ology.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-03 10:32 +0100 |
| Subject | Barclays internet banking |
| Message-ID | <527a8de014John_news@demon_ology.co.uk> |
Since Barclays "up"graded their internet banking I am totally locked out on Iyonix 5.16 using either !Netsurf 2.8, Netsurf 3.0 latest dev, !Oregano2 or even !Pheonix (Errors with .... not currently available) Same with mobile site; can't get in. All available on Windows 7 machine and Chrome, but can't extract pdf of "home" page which is a terrible nuisance, and download of excel data is a jumbled mess. Am I all alone in this wilderness? John S. -- oooOooo
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| From | Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-03 14:45 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <na.36a50e527a.a80520hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4727 |
In article <527a8de014John_news@demon_ology.co.uk>, J <John_news@demon_ology.co.uk> wrote: > Since Barclays "up"graded their internet banking I am totally locked > out on Iyonix 5.16 using either !Netsurf 2.8, Netsurf 3.0 latest dev, > !Oregano2 or even !Pheonix (Errors with .... not currently available) > Same with mobile site; can't get in. > > All available on Windows 7 machine and Chrome, but can't extract pdf of > "home" page which is a terrible nuisance, and download of excel data is > a jumbled mess. > > Am I all alone in this wilderness? > > John S. > Same here with Fresco and Netsurf on RiscPC, both of which worked perfectly before. Looks like they've 'fixed' something that wasn't broken - again. I do wish they wouldn't keep doing this. -- ------------- Howard Dawson hsdawson@ormail.co.uk http://hd-audio.orpheusweb.co.uk/ ---------------------------------
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| From | "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-03 15:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527aab0c3ddave@davenoise.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4728 |
In article <na.36a50e527a.a80520hsdawson@ormail.co.uk>,
Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> Same here with Fresco and Netsurf on RiscPC, both of which worked
> perfectly before. Looks like they've 'fixed' something that wasn't
> broken - again. I do wish they wouldn't keep doing this.
Have you tried complaining? I did when it first started many years ago
and I couldn't access it with my RPC, and they sorted things. The guy I
spoke to actually knew what RISC OS was.
I'm not bothered now since I also have a PC.
--
*Whatever kind of look you were going for, you missed.
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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| From | Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-03 16:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ff0aaf7a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4729 |
On 3 Apr 2012 "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <na.36a50e527a.a80520hsdawson@ormail.co.uk>,
> Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
>> Same here with Fresco and Netsurf on RiscPC, both of which worked
>> perfectly before. Looks like they've 'fixed' something that wasn't
>> broken - again. I do wish they wouldn't keep doing this.
> Have you tried complaining? I did when it first started many years ago
> and I couldn't access it with my RPC, and they sorted things. The guy I
> spoke to actually knew what RISC OS was.
A similar thing happened way back with HSBC, who restored NetSurf
after grumbles from some of us. However, their latest "improvement"
has totally scuppered that.
> I'm not bothered now since I also have a PC.
Ditto. I'm afraid that becomes ever more necessary.
With best wishes,
Peter.
--
Peter \ / zfc Hf \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
and \/ __ __ \ England.
family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
/ \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
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| From | Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> |
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| Date | 2012-04-03 18:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20120403182434.62daeb4b@office> |
| In reply to | #4730 |
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:35:02 +0100 Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> wrote: > On 3 Apr 2012 "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > > > In article <na.36a50e527a.a80520hsdawson@ormail.co.uk>, > > Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> wrote: > >> Same here with Fresco and Netsurf on RiscPC, both of which worked > >> perfectly before. Looks like they've 'fixed' something that wasn't > >> broken - again. I do wish they wouldn't keep doing this. > > > Have you tried complaining? I did when it first started many years ago > > and I couldn't access it with my RPC, and they sorted things. The guy I > > spoke to actually knew what RISC OS was. > > A similar thing happened way back with HSBC, who restored NetSurf > after grumbles from some of us. However, their latest "improvement" > has totally scuppered that. > > > I'm not bothered now since I also have a PC. > > Ditto. I'm afraid that becomes ever more necessary. > > With best wishes, > > Peter. FWIW it also screws up on Firefox > 10 under Linux :( Opera seems OK. It's a crap site now. Those pale washed out colours are a nightmare for those of us with less than perfect eyesight. I used their survey to point out it was rubbish. I've also complained directly. -- Will J G
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| From | Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-03 21:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <fdcbca7a52.martin@blueyonder.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4732 |
The following bytes were arranged on 3 Apr 2012 by Folderol : > It's a crap site now. Those pale washed out colours are a nightmare for those > of us with less than perfect eyesight. I used their survey to point out it was > rubbish. I've also complained directly. Those surveys don't actually do anything. The BBC's new home page was almost universally despised, and I complained very loudly in their survey. Fact is, if a company's spent a lot of money to develop a total pile of crap, they're not just going to swallow their pride and admit they tipped it all down the drain. If a website's got as far as requesting suggestions for changes from members of the public, it's already a done deal in its present state. -- __<^>__ "Did you know that polar bears stay white all year round? ...The / _ _ \ white colour makes them less visible to the seals and penguins ( ( |_| ) ) they hunt." - Nelson Thornes AQA-endorsed GCSE science textbook \_> <_/ ======================= Martin Bazley ==========================
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| From | Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-03 22:57 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Barclays internet banking. (getting OT) |
| Message-ID | <a014d27a52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4736 |
On 3 Apr 2012 Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> The following bytes were arranged on 3 Apr 2012 by Folderol :
>> It's a crap site now. Those pale washed out colours are a nightmare
>> for those
>> of us with less than perfect eyesight. I used their survey to point
>> out it was
>> rubbish. I've also complained directly.
> Those surveys don't actually do anything. The BBC's new home page was
> almost universally despised, and I complained very loudly in their
> survey. Fact is, if a company's spent a lot of money to develop a total
> pile of crap, they're not just going to swallow their pride and admit
> they tipped it all down the drain. If a website's got as far as
> requesting suggestions for changes from members of the public, it's
> already a done deal in its present state.
Exactly my thoughts about the new Multiple Sclerosis Society website.
If our branch treasurer, who is a lot more computer savvy than I am,
can't find how to renew her membership on the site, there's something
wrong. But do the muppets who designed the site care? No, they just
rejoice in their "cleverness".
End of rant.
With best wishes,
Peter. (About to step down from maintaining the Branch website)
--
Peter \ / zfc Hf \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52
and \/ __ __ \ England.
family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
/ \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-04 05:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <almarsoft.2341288425676522659@news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #4736 |
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 21:38:11 +0100, Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > If a website's got as far as requesting suggestions for changes from > members of the public, it's already a done deal in its present state. That ought to be known as "The YouTube Principle". Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> |
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| Date | 2012-04-13 21:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20120413210832.02588dfa@debian> |
| In reply to | #4745 |
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 05:39:29 +0200 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 21:38:11 +0100, Martin Bazley > <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > > If a website's got as far as requesting suggestions for changes from > > members of the public, it's already a done deal in its present > state. > > That ought to be known as "The YouTube Principle". > > > Best wishes, > > Rick. For what it's worth this is what i sent to Barclays. I'm not holding my breath and am now thinking about looking around for another bank - I'm not overly hopeful on that count either :( Dear sirs, I am writing to complain about the disasterous and inexplicable changes you have made to the online banking website. The first thing I noticed is that you silently redirect from the URL I know well to a different one. This is something that is a well known ploy used by criminals to hijack a link. Are you trying to make it easier for them by getting people used to such unannounced redirects? Secondly, your site will now not work at all without javascript being enabled. This is another extremely well known, and often reported security nightmare. Do you have so little concern for your customers, that you will deliberately put them at risk? I have a good memory. This is just as well, because, again without warning, you have reverted to the full 12 digit membership number. Why? On the occasion that you shortened it, you at least warned us in advance. Why have you changed the scheme to insipid washed out colours? Many of us do not have 20-20 eyesight and now have to wind up the contrast to maximum to be able to read the text at all. Similarly there seems to be no consistency to the interface - no logical flow – not that it was especially good before. For years I have used Firefox as my browser of choice on top of Debian Linux. This combination has consistently remained reliable and secure and fully updated. Sudenly I can no longer use it on your site. When I try to look at my current account some kind of loop is initiated that locks up Firefox completely. Yours is the only website that does this, from many hundreds I visit on a regular basis, including a number of significant financial institutions. The only way I was able to get to my details was to use a little known, far less secure browser. This might have been understandable in 1999 but is quite unacceptable in 2012. Yours sincerely, -- Will J G
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| From | Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-14 19:34 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <na.1d69a75280.a80520hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4916 |
In article <20120413210832.02588dfa@debian>, Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> wrote: > > For what it's worth this is what i sent to Barclays. I'm not holding my > bre= > ath > and am now thinking about looking around for another bank - I'm not overly > hopeful on that count either :( > > > Dear sirs, > [snip] Well done, hopefully that should at the very least get a response or excuse. FWIW I have just managed to get in again OK with Fresco using the membership number method. I seem to enjoy?? more success if I delete Fresco's cache in !Scrap before connecting, and also by choosing not to save the cookie. Whether this has just been coincidence or not is a tough call, but might be worth a try if you can't get in at all. I've also noticed that where it asks for 2 characters from the memorable word, the second character that is asked for is 100% consistently the seventh character. -- ------------- Howard Dawson hsdawson@ormail.co.uk http://hd-audio.orpheusweb.co.uk/ ---------------------------------
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| From | Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-03 20:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527ac2f9a9ajg@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4728 |
In article <na.36a50e527a.a80520hsdawson@ormail.co.uk>, Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> wrote: > In article <527a8de014John_news@demon_ology.co.uk>, J > <John_news@demon_ology.co.uk> wrote: > > Since Barclays "up"graded their internet banking I am totally > > locked out on Iyonix 5.16 using either !Netsurf 2.8, Netsurf 3.0 > > latest dev, !Oregano2 or even !Pheonix (Errors with .... not > > currently available) Same with mobile site; can't get in. > > Am I all alone in this wilderness? > > > > John S. > > > Same here with Fresco and Netsurf on RiscPC, both of which worked > perfectly before. Looks like they've 'fixed' something that wasn't > broken - again. I do wish they wouldn't keep doing this. Having read the above, I went to access my Barclays account. It worked perfectly using Fresco on my RISC PC using RISC OS 4.02 Alan Griffin
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| From | "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-03 23:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527ad3de41dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4734 |
In article <527ac2f9a9ajg@argonet.co.uk>,
Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <na.36a50e527a.a80520hsdawson@ormail.co.uk>, Howard Dawson
> <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <527a8de014John_news@demon_ology.co.uk>, J
> > <John_news@demon_ology.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Since Barclays "up"graded their internet banking I am totally
> > > locked out on Iyonix 5.16 using either !Netsurf 2.8, Netsurf 3.0
> > > latest dev, !Oregano2 or even !Pheonix (Errors with .... not
> > > currently available) Same with mobile site; can't get in.
> > > Am I all alone in this wilderness?
> > >
> > > John S.
> > >
> > Same here with Fresco and Netsurf on RiscPC, both of which worked
> > perfectly before. Looks like they've 'fixed' something that wasn't
> > broken - again. I do wish they wouldn't keep doing this.
> Having read the above, I went to access my Barclays account.
> It worked perfectly using Fresco on my RISC PC using RISC OS 4.02
When I checked it earlier today I couldn't even get to the login page. So
I assumed something else had changed since the other day - but I didn't
try on the PC. Having tried again now on the RPC I can log in - but it
says service not available.
--
*Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off NOW.
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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| From | Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-04 18:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <na.533e54527b.a80520hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4739 |
In article <527ad3de41dave@davenoise.co.uk>, "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > Having tried again now on the RPC I can log in - but it > says service not available. > That's what happens with me using Fresco. When using Netsurf 2.8, I get to the authentication section OK and can enter the 5-digit passcode but the two drop-down menus for the memorable word characters are not present - only a small blue help icon next to where the first menu should be. -- ------------- Howard Dawson hsdawson@ormail.co.uk http://hd-audio.orpheusweb.co.uk/ ---------------------------------
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-04 19:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527b44f76aalan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4774 |
In article <na.533e54527b.a80520hsdawson@ormail.co.uk>, Howard Dawson <hsdawson@ormail.co.uk> wrote: > In article <527ad3de41dave@davenoise.co.uk>, "Dave Plowman (News)" > <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > > Having tried again now on the RPC I can log in - but it says service > > not available. > > > That's what happens with me using Fresco. > When using Netsurf 2.8, I get to the authentication section OK and can > enter the 5-digit passcode but the two drop-down menus for the memorable > word characters are not present - only a small blue help icon next to > where the first menu should be. Are you sure that you are banking with Barclays? Doesn't sound anything like the one I use, no request for passcode or memorable word. I get the options to use Membership number (12 characters), card number or sort code & account number. Like Dave I can go through the whole process, pin sentry and all, just to get the 'Service not available' message. Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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| From | Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-04 22:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527b524a81ajg@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4776 |
In article <527b44f76aalan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > When using Netsurf 2.8, I get to the authentication section OK and > > can enter the 5-digit passcode but the two drop-down menus for the > > memorable word characters are not present - only a small blue help > > icon next to where the first menu should be. > Are you sure that you are banking with Barclays? Doesn't sound > anything like the one I use, no request for passcode or memorable > word. > I get the options to use Membership number (12 characters), card > number or sort code & account number. Yes. I get that, it asks for my surname and then I put in my 12 digit number. I then get asked for my 5-digit passcode and two drop-down menus for two letters of my password. When I have entered these, I click on "log in" and I am into my account. Alan Griffin
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-04 23:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527b565b1calan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4779 |
In article <527b524a81ajg@argonet.co.uk>, Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > In article <527b44f76aalan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder > <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > > When using Netsurf 2.8, I get to the authentication section OK and > > > can enter the 5-digit passcode but the two drop-down menus for the > > > memorable word characters are not present - only a small blue help > > > icon next to where the first menu should be. > > Are you sure that you are banking with Barclays? Doesn't sound > > anything like the one I use, no request for passcode or memorable > > word. > > I get the options to use Membership number (12 characters), card > > number or sort code & account number. > Yes. I get that, it asks for my surname and then I put in my 12 digit > number. > I then get asked for my 5-digit passcode and two drop-down menus for > two letters of my password. > When I have entered these, I click on "log in" and I am into my account. Interesting. I do the same, though these days I use my card number rather than the annoyingly long membership number. Then I am asked for the last 4 digits of my card number and for the number provided by the pin sentry. Presumably you have opted to not use the pin sentry? Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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| From | Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 09:41 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527b90dbd0ajg@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4782 |
In article <527b565b1calan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > Then I am asked for the last 4 digits of my card number and for the > number provided by the pin sentry. Presumably you have opted to not > use the pin sentry? I don't know what a pin sentry is! Alan G
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 10:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527b9342f7alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4790 |
In article <527b90dbd0ajg@argonet.co.uk>, Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > In article <527b565b1calan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder > <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > Then I am asked for the last 4 digits of my card number and for the > > number provided by the pin sentry. Presumably you have opted to not > > use the pin sentry? > I don't know what a pin sentry is! How did you avoid getting one? They were issued, I thought to all Barclays customers, a couple of years ago or so. In principle they are a good idea but it can be annoying if you don't have it handy. I've acquired two so far, having mislaid one after a trip abroad only for it to turn up when I next looked in my travel documents pouch. Things have become much easier all round with Barclays' security with the abandonment of the demand for the Membership number as the only way to get into the system - that was a right pig in being too long to remember reliably and needing to be looked up every time. Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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| From | "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 10:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527b9454a5dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4792 |
In article <527b9342f7alan_calder@o2.co.uk>,
Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> Things have become much easier all round with Barclays' security with
> the abandonment of the demand for the Membership number as the only way
> to get into the system - that was a right pig in being too long to
> remember reliably and needing to be looked up every time.
But rather more secure than a credit card number? Everyone you've ever
used it with knows that.
--
*Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-04-05 10:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <527b95c336alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #4795 |
In article <527b9454a5dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > In article <527b9342f7alan_calder@o2.co.uk>, > Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > > Things have become much easier all round with Barclays' security with > > the abandonment of the demand for the Membership number as the only way > > to get into the system - that was a right pig in being too long to > > remember reliably and needing to be looked up every time. > But rather more secure than a credit card number? Everyone you've ever > used it with knows that. But that's no great use to them unless they actually have the card in their hand and access to a pinsentry or know your other security details. If they know those other details then they probably know your membership number as well. Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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