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MassFS and USB memory sticks

Started byJim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk>
First post2012-02-03 13:46 +0000
Last post2012-02-03 14:33 +0000
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  MassFS and USB memory sticks Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 13:46 +0000
    Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 14:54 +0000
      Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 16:57 +0000
        Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Stephen Parkin <stephen@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 18:59 +0000
          Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 20:25 +0000
            Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 21:05 +0000
        Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 19:52 +0000
          Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 18:33 +0000
            Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 18:56 +0000
              Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-02-04 21:47 +0000
            Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Chris Shepheard <chris.shepheard@chrispics.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 18:57 +0000
              Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 19:32 +0000
            Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-05 16:49 +0000
        Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-02-03 21:05 +0000
          Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 21:26 +0000
            Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-02-03 22:16 +0000
              Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-02-04 00:26 +0000
        MassFS and USB memory sticks Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 16:21 +0000
      Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-02-04 15:42 +0000
        Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-02-04 17:24 +0000
        Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-02-06 12:46 +0100
          Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-02-13 11:11 +0000
      Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 15:57 +0000
        Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-05 17:33 +0000
          Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-06 17:48 +0000
    Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-02-03 14:33 +0000

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#3541

FromMartin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com>
Date2012-02-06 12:46 +0100
Message-ID<367d3f5d52.martin@bach.planiverse.com>
In reply to#3525
In message <525c4d6e31cvjazz@waitrose.com>
          Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> In article <fe33c55b52.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
>    Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>> Try downloading
>> http://www.riscosopen.org/zipfiles/mods/dosfs.0.87.zip?1309194330
>> and install it following
>> http://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/pages/Software+informatio
>> n:+DOSFS
>> (For RO 4.39, predesk is at !Boot.Choices.Users.Single.Boot.PreDesk ,
>> and the RMEnsure lines in the obey file should be changed to 0.87)

>> Although this is a ROOL module, it works with RO 4.39 and 6.20. I've
>> used v0.85, for a long time with my Unipod (now upgraded to 0.87).

> I have DOSFS 0.85 in my PreDesk directory but don't have the !Run obey file
> as mentioned in the RISC OS Wiki.

Of course not. You have installed the module in a different way, so 
you would not even have a place where you could put a !Run file.

> I did *help DOSFS in a task window & it
> listed 0.85 so is that !Run file superfluous?

No. Either you install the module in a subdirectory as suggested in 
the Wiki, then that subdirectory needs a !Run file, or you place the 
module in PreDesk directly, in which case there is no need for a run 
file, nor an obvious location where you could place one anyway.

-- 
Martin
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        RISC OS Software for Design, Printing and Publishing
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#3601

FromChris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com>
Date2012-02-13 11:11 +0000
Message-ID<5260d72758cvjazz@waitrose.com>
In reply to#3541
In article <367d3f5d52.martin@bach.planiverse.com>,
   Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> wrote:
> In message <525c4d6e31cvjazz@waitrose.com>
>           Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> > I have DOSFS 0.85 in my PreDesk directory but don't have the !Run obey file
> > as mentioned in the RISC OS Wiki.

> Of course not. You have installed the module in a different way, so 
> you would not even have a place where you could put a !Run file.

> > I did *help DOSFS in a task window & it
> > listed 0.85 so is that !Run file superfluous?

> No. Either you install the module in a subdirectory as suggested in 
> the Wiki, then that subdirectory needs a !Run file, or you place the 
> module in PreDesk directly, in which case there is no need for a run 
> file, nor an obvious location where you could place one anyway.

Thanks for the lucid explanation, Martin. Sorry so long replying - been away.

-- 
Chris Newman

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#3527

FromBrian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk>
Date2012-02-04 15:57 +0000
Message-ID<525c4ebef9bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#3509
In article <fe33c55b52.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
   Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

[ ... ]

> http://www.riscosopen.org/zipfiles/mods/dosfs.0.87.zip?1309194330
> and install it following
> http://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/pages/Software+information:+DOSFS
> (For RO 4.39, predesk is at
> !Boot.Choices.Users.Single.Boot.PreDesk , and the RMEnsure
> lines in the obey file should be changed to 0.87)

> Although this is a ROOL module, it works with RO 4.39 and
> 6.20. I've used v0.85, for a long time with my Unipod (now
> upgraded to 0.87).

Where exactly do you load v0.85, and what do you mean by '...with
my UNIpod ...'?

I find (on my RO v4.39) I am running that version though I do not
have the DOSFS directory and contents given on the ROOL site. I
must be loading it elsewhere. I have searched unsuccesfully using
!Locate and !Verma.

The DOSFS v0.75 in ROM is dormant, and the DOSFS 0.67 in
!Boot.Utils.RO4Patches.!Run, which dates from 2004, I have
disabled by a '|'. 


Brian.

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Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK  
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#3540

FromTony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2012-02-05 17:33 +0000
Message-ID<c464db5c52.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
In reply to#3527
On 4 Feb 2012, Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <fe33c55b52.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
>    Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> > Although this is a ROOL module, it works with RO 4.39 and 6.20. I've
> > used v0.85, for a long time with my Unipod (now upgraded to 0.87).
>
> Where exactly do you load v0.85, and what do you mean by '...with my
> UNIpod ...'?

A reference to the original post which concerned the use of a flash
drive with Unipod.

> I find (on my RO v4.39) I am running that version though I do not have
> the DOSFS directory and contents given on the ROOL site. I must be
> loading it elsewhere. I have searched unsuccesfully using !Locate and
> !Verma.

Unless you have an application which is loading it, DOSFS 0.85 must be
_somewhere_ in Boot. If Locate can't find a file named DOSFS, maybe its
filename has been changed. Try using Locate to search Boot for files
whose _contents_ include DOSFS. That should find the module, and the
obey file which loads it.

Tony


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#3542

FromBrian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk>
Date2012-02-06 17:48 +0000
Message-ID<525d6091ecbric-nospam@argonet.co.uk>
In reply to#3540
In article <c464db5c52.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>,
   Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 4 Feb 2012, Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

[ ... ]

> > I find (on my RO v4.39) I am running that version though I
> > do not have the DOSFS directory and contents given on the
> > ROOL site. I must be loading it elsewhere. I have searched
> > unsuccesfully using !Locate and !Verma.

> Unless you have an application which is loading it, DOSFS 0.85
> must be _somewhere_ in Boot. If Locate can't find a file named
> DOSFS, maybe its filename has been changed. Try using Locate
> to search Boot for files whose _contents_ include DOSFS. That
> should find the module, and the obey file which loads it.

I remembered.  DOSFS is one of the modules I load from an obey
file activated from Configuration -> Boot -> Run. It lives with
other stuff in a 'private' directory called !Boot+ where I can
get at it added without digging about in !Boot.  DOSFS v0.87 is
now installed there.

The modules in my !Boot.Utils.RO4Patches remain disabled  - see
my posting <525c50f027bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> earlier in this
thread.


Brian.

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Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK  
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#3510

FromChris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net>
Date2012-02-03 14:33 +0000
Message-ID<525bc33c09chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net>
In reply to#3508
In article <83ecbe5b52.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>,
   Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
> However, filenames on the device appear all in capitals, truncated
> to 8 characters.  How do I get stuff to appear as in normal filer
> windows, with upper&lowercase and long filenames?

Use a newer version of DOSFS (eg from ROOL download site), or use
Fat32FS?

-- 
Chris Johnson

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