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| Started by | Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> |
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| First post | 2011-11-11 18:05 +0000 |
| Last post | 2011-11-19 10:33 +0000 |
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RamDisc0 Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-11 18:05 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2011-11-12 11:19 +1300
Re: RamDisc0 Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 23:04 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 23:17 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Frank de Bruijn <zuiderduin@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-12 08:14 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Sprow <news@sprow.co.uk> - 2011-11-12 00:55 -0800
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-12 18:35 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-13 19:09 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 20:05 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-13 22:07 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 22:33 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 22:56 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-14 05:55 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-14 01:52 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-14 06:00 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-14 10:14 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-14 17:31 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-14 18:53 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 John Tytgat <this@is.invalid> - 2011-11-14 21:34 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-14 22:01 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-14 21:12 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:14 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:57 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Mister Ron <mrronman@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-14 14:14 -0800
Re: RamDisc0 Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-14 22:42 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 12:40 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-15 20:44 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 22:40 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:11 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-15 20:39 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 20:17 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 22:13 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 21:47 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:17 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 (now OT) Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:14 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 (now OT) Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:56 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 (now OT) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-16 05:38 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 (now OT) Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-16 08:37 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 (now OT) Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-16 08:14 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:49 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 22:24 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 23:38 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-16 13:29 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-15 19:26 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:55 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-16 05:49 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-16 22:39 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-19 09:52 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-22 09:50 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2011-11-22 16:02 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-26 16:10 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-28 11:40 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-29 07:40 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 20:36 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-16 22:47 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-17 18:05 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Barry Punchard <barry.punchard@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-17 20:19 +0200
Re: RamDisc0 M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2011-11-17 21:03 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2011-11-18 09:59 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Barry Punchard <barry.punchard@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-18 14:19 +0200
Re: RamDisc0 Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-17 19:12 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-18 07:51 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-18 10:06 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-22 13:39 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-11-22 13:24 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-24 15:28 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-11-24 15:48 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) News poster <workstuff@mail.com> - 2011-11-28 11:40 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-08 11:09 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> - 2011-12-08 10:15 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-08 12:02 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-10 13:15 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-12 10:29 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-12-12 11:18 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-12 12:12 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 22:53 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-13 12:58 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 16:05 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-13 17:35 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 18:57 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-13 19:15 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-14 08:09 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2011-12-14 07:53 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2011-12-14 23:30 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-15 07:24 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2011-12-16 00:05 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-16 09:27 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-14 08:06 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) nervus <nervus@spam.nl> - 2011-12-12 19:53 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-12 20:45 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-12 23:08 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) nervus <nervus@spam.de> - 2011-12-14 11:54 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 06:25 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) nervus <nervus@spam.de> - 2011-12-14 11:46 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-12 22:48 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Harriet Bazley <bazley@feathermail.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 01:46 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-12-13 14:07 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-14 18:46 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-12-15 11:28 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-15 15:57 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-12 11:16 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-12 22:56 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-12-08 11:32 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-12-08 11:03 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-08 12:04 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-11-25 11:41 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) News poster <workstuff@mail.com> - 2011-11-28 11:40 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-26 16:12 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rosemary Miskin <miskin@orpheusmail.co.uk> - 2011-11-17 19:17 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-20 12:45 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-20 13:53 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-18 21:12 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-20 17:43 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-20 19:41 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-11-20 21:17 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-20 23:39 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2011-11-21 10:28 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-21 10:57 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 jgharston <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk> - 2011-11-25 10:36 -0800
Re: RamDisc0 Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2011-11-14 11:02 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rik Griffin <nospam@denbridgemarine.com> - 2011-11-14 14:50 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-19 10:33 +0000
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| From | Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-12-13 19:15 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <5241159e1ctim@invalid.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #2927 |
In article <524113e8eedave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote: > They come to a road junction/roundabout and neither stop or look, but > just carry on... That's a frightner. Just before a friend's mother gave up driving he discovered that she was convinced that 'give way' on a mini-roundabout was the opposite of a large roundabout. Proving -- if proofs were needed -- that the only safe way to drive is defensively. i.e. always assume everyone else on the road is an idiot. -- Tim Hill of timil.com . . . * supports TFT & shares in cheaper ethical telecoms http://tjrh.eu/phone * has a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/ * accepts incoming email: substitute postmaster@ for tim@ ... "Not Mars his sword nor war's quick fire shall burn the living record of your memory" Sonnet 55
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-12-14 08:09 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <4ee84b94$0$2522$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #2929 |
On 13/12/2011 20:15, Tim Hill wrote: > Proving -- if proofs were needed -- that the only safe way to drive is > defensively. i.e. always assume everyone else on the road is an idiot. That's why I'd like a solid SUV if I could pick the car of my choice. Mom prefers a Smart. Being ecological is one thing, but I personally want as much armour as possible between myself and whatever other numpty is on the road. Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-12-14 07:53 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <9kr2vcFdjsU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2936 |
On 14-Dec-2011, Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > That's why I'd like a solid SUV if I could pick the car of my choice. > Mom prefers a Smart. Being ecological is one thing, but I personally > want as much armour as possible between myself and whatever other numpty > is on the road. I was told that my Isuzu Trooper had very good 'crumple zones'. Since it has a very heavy chassis I couldn't understand this until it was explained that the crumple zones were 'anything it hits'. -- David Holden - APDL - <http://www.apdl.co.uk>
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| From | "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> |
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| Date | 2011-12-14 23:30 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <fIxm7.2485$lk6.889621@orpheusnews> |
| In reply to | #2938 |
David Holden wrote:
> Rick Murray wrote:
>> I'd like a solid SUV if I could pick the car of my choice. Being
>> ecological is one thing, but I personally want as much armour as
>> possible between myself and whatever other numpty is on the road.
> I was told that my Isuzu Trooper had very good 'crumple zones'. Since
> it has a very heavy chassis I couldn't understand this until it was
> explained that the crumple zones were 'anything it hits'.
In that case, good luck guys, should you ever hit a tree. :(
Fliss
--
He said: Is this episode going on the air live?
She said: No, very few cartoons are broadcast live. It's
a terrible strain on the animator's wrist.
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-12-15 07:24 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <4ee99286$0$2534$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #2952 |
On 15/12/2011 00:30, Felicity S. wrote: >> it has a very heavy chassis I couldn't understand this until it was >> explained that the crumple zones were 'anything it hits'. > In that case, good luck guys, should you ever hit a tree. :( I knew a guy with an '80s Volvo "brick" who probably would have said even a tree would be an adequate crumple zone. He got rear-ended in The Meadows roundabout (Camberley) just after it was made, and he wasn't the slightest bit worried about his "tank", more concerned about the (yes, crumpled) bonnet on the car the hit him. On the other hand, don't mention the word "fuel" with the word "economy". It wasn't, at all. Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> |
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| Date | 2011-12-16 00:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <fIxm7.2485$lk6.889624@orpheusnews> |
| In reply to | #2955 |
Rick Murray wrote:
> Felicity wrote:
>>> I was told that my Isuzu Trooper had very good 'crumple zones'. Since
>>> it has a very heavy chassis I couldn't understand this until it was
>>> explained that the crumple zones were 'anything it hits'.
>> In that case, good luck guys, should you ever hit a tree. :(
> I knew a guy with an '80s Volvo "brick" who probably would have said
> even a tree would be an adequate crumple zone.
Talk's easy. Let's see him (or you) try it.
Fliss
--
She said: His house was on a bluff over a lake. I always loved
the view, sunlight over water - my favourite spot.
He said: Yes, magical. Too bad you nuked it.
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-12-16 09:27 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <4eeb00fe$0$2522$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #2973 |
On 16/12/2011 01:05, Felicity S. wrote: > Talk's easy. Of course it is. Politicians get paid to do little else. > Let's see him (or you) try it. Me? Hell no. I'm not dumb enough to try that! Him? Long time no see. Maybe he did... Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-12-14 08:06 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <4ee84af6$0$2522$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #2927 |
On 13/12/2011 19:57, Dave Symes wrote: Surely this ought to be on ZFC, not csam?!? > Being the driver of a Van (ATM) a white one, A mini-vent from me. What the hell is it about flippin' white van drivers that they *have* to pull out in front of you, cut you up something terrible, drive fifty metres down the road, AND THEN TAKE THE NEXT EXIT. They're driving a bloody great WHITE object, they SURELY can't think "oh, I'll just sneak down here, nobody will notice"?!?!? > the accelerator some wellie, but no, they pull out right in front, causing > me to brake, then they trundle off like a snail. Hehe... if you're ever in France, meet "Microcar". It is... um... Yeah... Here's the sexy website: http://microcar.fr/ [other brands exist, ie "aixam"] And, considering how badly they are usually driven, there doesn't seem to be much on YouTube. I guess "bagnole sans permis: the greatest hits" would just take tooooooo long. But here's a sort-of (lame) rally attempt in one. Ignore the horrid singing and listen to the car. They actually sound *worse* in reality. Well, here ya go: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5di0h_rallye-voiture-sans-permis_sport#rel-page-2 > 3) I live in a conurbation that has a higher percentage of old folks than > most places (Bournemouth/Poole) and boy oh boy can that make safe driving > a challenge. Used to work in a nursing home where a bloke sometimes took his *electric* *wheelchair* out on the Hog's Back (dual carriageway sorta Farnham-Guildford). There's insane, and then there's an electric wheelchair with reflectors, no lights, and doing, what, 4mph tops?, during RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC as the sun goes down. > They trundle along swerving about in the road, they can't see properly, Sounds like every guy in his tractor around here. > and everytime something is coming towards them, they brake, every single > time. Ah, the tractors, they speed up. > My real, real pet motoring hate, is the Ron's who just will not indicate, > ever. My real, real pet motoring hate, is how a French driver *has* to be the car in front. It's a psychological thing, and can lead to some spectacular crashes (which, on the other hand, is a real $#!+ deal for the oncoming car that gets wiped out as collateral damage). > Or as one person put it, and I kid you not... "Eh! Why do I need to > indicate, I know where I'm going." My smaller pet hate is that, according to the rules, you *don't* indicate to take the second turn-off on a roundabout until you've passed the first. Mom and I argue about this, but I believe you should indicate inwards (as you do for the final turn-off) and switch once you've passed the turn-off before yours. In other words, you should *always* be indicating *something*. I say this because for a person crossing the roundabout, they will not indicate immediately, so how can you tell the difference between them and the halfwit that just doesn't bother? I give up trying to think of anything even remotely on-topic to say here. Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | nervus <nervus@spam.nl> |
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| Date | 2011-12-12 19:53 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <gemini.lw3tsm00002ry0cma.nervus@spam.nl> |
| In reply to | #2878 |
cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote: > In message <524061a6catim@invalid.org.uk> <snipped> > > I feel 'ice' is more of a problem - I wonder if in Norway they are using > 'Schwalbe snow & Ice' tyres on their bicycles. > > Don't think there any 'Winter Motorcycle' tyres - big problem in Europe - > because it seems all motor vehicles are required to have them fitted in > the winter - EU directive. > Although the EU is quite a nuisance in some respects: THIS is nonsense. It is different for every EU member state. The rules for this at the moment are to be found here: http://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safety/observatory/traffic_rules_en.htm If I leave the Netherlands for a trip in winter to Germany I cannot do that on summer tyres, but Belgium, Luxemburg or France pose no (legal) problem in this matter. The same for Norway, although I would not recommend it. -- kind regards nervus
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-12-12 20:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <524099fc0dsee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2901 |
In article <gemini.lw3tsm00002ry0cma.nervus@spam.nl>, nervus <nervus@spam.nl> wrote: > > Don't think there any 'Winter Motorcycle' tyres - big > > problem in Europe - because it seems all motor vehicles > > are required to have them fitted in the winter - EU > > directive. > Although the EU is quite a nuisance in some respects: > THIS is nonsense. Quite. It is also typical of the rubbish that is to be found all over the UK, in print, on radio or TV, when it comes to the EU. The Euro-nutter-sceptics of the Tory party and UKIP could tell us tomorrow that the EU was minded to ban the keeping of dogs in the home and some 50% or more of the population would believe them. Within a week all the papers that believ that Europe is a continent of which we are not geographically part would have published. > It is different for every EU member state. The rules for > this at the moment are to be found here: >http://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safety/observatory/traffic_rules_en.htm Thanks for posting that link - very interesting, and useful. I am going to have to buy a small fire extinguisher soon... -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | workstuff@mail.com |
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| Date | 2011-12-12 23:08 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <479da14052.news@mistymornings.net> |
| In reply to | #2901 |
In message <gemini.lw3tsm00002ry0cma.nervus@spam.nl>
nervus <nervus@spam.nl> wrote:
> If I leave the Netherlands for a trip in winter to Germany I cannot do that
> on summer tyres, but Belgium, Luxemburg or France pose no (legal) problem in
> this matter. The same for Norway, although I would not recommend it.
>
Well not quite. Although winter tyres are not mandatory, the law in
Norway states that you have to have tyres suited to the road conditions.
In Buskerud in winter this effectively means studded winter tyres or
Nordic winter stud free tyres.
There is a big problem each winter with foreign lorry drivers who try to
get round Norway in fully laden 40 ton trucks on worn summer tyres and
without chains.
When they get stopped by a police checkpoint, or slide off the road, or
block a road on a climb (a few do each week, I think one did so just
outside town this evening) they get a large fine for not having tyres
suited to the road conditions and/or for not having a set of chains with
them.
Cheers
Stan
--
An Iyonix in Buskerud.
http://mistymornings.net
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| From | nervus <nervus@spam.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-12-14 11:54 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <gemini.lw6wys000027j00sf.nervus@spam.de> |
| In reply to | #2907 |
workstuff@mail.com wrote: > In message <gemini.lw3tsm00002ry0cma.nervus@spam.nl> > nervus <nervus@spam.nl> wrote: > > > > If I leave the Netherlands for a trip in winter to Germany I cannot do > > that on summer tyres, but Belgium, Luxemburg or France pose no (legal) > > problem in this matter. The same for Norway, although I would not > > recommend it. > > > Well not quite. Although winter tyres are not mandatory, the law in Norway > states that you have to have tyres suited to the road conditions. In > Buskerud in winter this effectively means studded winter tyres or Nordic > winter stud free tyres. You are right, but my remarks were more aimed at the presumption that this was an EU measure :) OTOH I am allowed to drive without special tyres in Oslo ( if I chose to). However I do use winter tyres on my car: they give better grip when the temperature is below 7 degrees Celsius. The profile depth of them is of course also important. > There is a big problem each winter with foreign lorry drivers who try to > get round Norway in fully laden 40 ton trucks on worn summer tyres and > without chains. > > When they get stopped by a police checkpoint, or slide off the road, or > block a road on a climb (a few do each week, I think one did so just > outside town this evening) they get a large fine for not having tyres > suited to the road conditions and/or for not having a set of chains with > them. > > Cheers Stan -- kind regards nervus
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-12-13 06:25 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <4ee6e1e3$0$2537$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #2901 |
On 12/12/2011 19:53, nervus wrote: > on summer tyres, but Belgium, Luxemburg or France pose no (legal) problem in > this matter. The same for Norway, although I would not recommend it. Errr... Don't you need winter tyres or chains in the mountain regions of France? I recall a weird signpost on my (fake) driving test (computer app) which turned out to mean "chains mandatory beyond this point". Not that there's one of those signs within several hundred miles of here! Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | nervus <nervus@spam.de> |
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| Date | 2011-12-14 11:46 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <gemini.lw6wm000001pg00sf.nervus@spam.de> |
| In reply to | #2917 |
Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On 12/12/2011 19:53, nervus wrote: > > > on summer tyres, but Belgium, Luxemburg or France pose no (legal) > > problem in this matter. The same for Norway, although I would not > > recommend it. > > Errr... Don't you need winter tyres or chains in the mountain regions of > France? I recall a weird signpost on my (fake) driving test (computer app) > which turned out to mean "chains mandatory beyond this point". Not that > there's one of those signs within several hundred miles of here! > Yes that is certainly true, but this not EU regulated (but per country). -- kind regards nervus
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| From | workstuff@mail.com |
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| Date | 2011-12-12 22:48 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <4dc99f4052.news@mistymornings.net> |
| In reply to | #2878 |
In message <a723664052.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com>
cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
> In message <524061a6catim@invalid.org.uk>
> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> >
> > Being a British and a motorcyclist, my only snow meter is vision: if I
> > can see any snow I don't go out. ;-)
> >
>
> I feel 'ice' is more of a problem - I wonder if in Norway they are
> using 'Schwalbe snow & Ice' tyres on their bicycles.
Just plain old Marathon Winter tyres on our 20" wheeled Dahons. They
work fine but you have to lower the pressure to 2 bar when on hard ice.
I am considering a set or two of Schwalbe Ice Spiker tyres for our VSF
touring bikes.
The Ice Spikers and the Ice Spiker Pro tyres, together with the
equivalent Nokian tyres got good ratings in recent tests here in Norway.
>
> Don't think there any 'Winter Motorcycle' tyres - big problem in
> Europe - because it seems all motor vehicles are required to have them
> fitted in the winter - EU directive.
>
I think there is a regular meet that comes up to Storefjell Hotel near
us each winter. Last year one guy came up from Spain on a moped. Most
have a side car and seem to use studded car tyres at least on the back
wheel. The moped and the occasional solo motorcycle had skids mounted on
either side just off the ground. These help keep a solo motorbike/moped
upright if it starts to slide.
There was another motorcyclist (not attending the meet) on a solo bike
who got killed last winter. He lost control and slid into the path of
oncoming traffic. If there had been no-one else on the road he would
have survived.
Cheers
Stan
--
An Iyonix in Buskerud.
http://mistymornings.net
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| From | Harriet Bazley <bazley@feathermail.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-12-13 01:46 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <3d85b54052.harriet@blueyonder.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2906 |
On 12 Dec 2011 as I do recall,
workstuff@mail.com wrote:
[snip]
> There was another motorcyclist (not attending the meet) on a solo bike
> who got killed last winter. He lost control and slid into the path of
> oncoming traffic. If there had been no-one else on the road he would
> have survived.
>
I had a nasty moment cycling home in the rising wind tonight; I was
blown clean out of my lane by a violent gust coming down a side-road.
Luckily there *was* no-one else on the road, it being nearly midnight...
I wouldn't have set out in those conditions, but the wind had increased
enormously over the preceding few hours.
--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==
Strategic withdrawal - running away with dignity!
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| From | cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-12-13 14:07 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <6a61f94052.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com> |
| In reply to | #2906 |
In message <4dc99f4052.news@mistymornings.net>
workstuff@mail.com wrote:
> In message <a723664052.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com>
> cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
>
> > In message <524061a6catim@invalid.org.uk>
> > Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > >
> > > Being a British and a motorcyclist, my only snow meter is vision:
> > > if I can see any snow I don't go out. ;-)
> > >
> >
> > I feel 'ice' is more of a problem - I wonder if in Norway they are
> > using 'Schwalbe snow & Ice' tyres on their bicycles.
>
> Just plain old Marathon Winter tyres on our 20" wheeled Dahons. They
> work fine but you have to lower the pressure to 2 bar when on hard ice.
> I am considering a set or two of Schwalbe Ice Spiker tyres for our VSF
> touring bikes.
>
> The Ice Spikers and the Ice Spiker Pro tyres, together with the
> equivalent Nokian tyres got good ratings in recent tests here in
> Norway.
Be interesting on how well they work - back here the problem is small
sections of ice that can catch yoy out.
Nice winter scene - for a Xmas card :-) are there power lines in the
background?
Here is a interesting 'icy' cycling picture - if still there -
http://www.adventurecycling.org/
--
Colin Ferris Cornwall UK
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| From | workstuff@mail.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-12-14 18:46 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <0346914152.news@mistymornings.net> |
| In reply to | #2922 |
In message <6a61f94052.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com>
cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
> In message <4dc99f4052.news@mistymornings.net>
> workstuff@mail.com wrote:
>
[snip]
> > > I feel 'ice' is more of a problem - I wonder if in Norway they are
> > > using 'Schwalbe snow & Ice' tyres on their bicycles.
> >
> > Just plain old Marathon Winter tyres on our 20" wheeled Dahons. They
> > work fine but you have to lower the pressure to 2 bar when on hard ice.
> > I am considering a set or two of Schwalbe Ice Spiker tyres for our VSF
> > touring bikes.
> >
> > The Ice Spikers and the Ice Spiker Pro tyres, together with the
> > equivalent Nokian tyres got good ratings in recent tests here in
> > Norway.
>
> Be interesting on how well they work - back here the problem is small
> sections of ice that can catch yoy out.
We used the Dahons during our last winter in the Netherlands in 2009.
It was comparatively icy and snowy. The Marathon Winters were quite good
at saving you from odd patches of ice even when pumped up to near max
pressure. They drag a little compared to other tyres but the trade-off
of security over performance was one I was prepared to accept.
>
> Nice winter scene - for a Xmas card :-) are there power lines in the
> background?
Yup. I think they come from the local hydro-electric plant about a
kilometre from here.
>
> Here is a interesting 'icy' cycling picture - if still there -
> http://www.adventurecycling.org/
>
Cycling at 4500m! That is around twice the height of the highest point
in Norway. It makes the 1350m that is the highest point on the
Rallarvegen look a bit wimpy.
Cheers
Stan
--
An Iyonix in Buskerud.
http://mistymornings.net
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| From | cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-12-15 11:28 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <027af24152.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com> |
| In reply to | #2946 |
In message <0346914152.news@mistymornings.net>
workstuff@mail.com wrote:
> In message <6a61f94052.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com>
> cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
>
> > In message <4dc99f4052.news@mistymornings.net>
> > workstuff@mail.com wrote:
[snip]
> Yup. I think they come from the local hydro-electric plant about a
> kilometre from here.
Would you like to say - how much you pay - per unit for your electrity ?
[snip]
> >
> Cycling at 4500m! That is around twice the height of the highest point
> in Norway. It makes the 1350m that is the highest point on the
> Rallarvegen look a bit wimpy.
>
Cycling higher that 'Druck' flies :-)) (non Jumbo)
--
Colin Ferris Cornwall UK
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| From | workstuff@mail.com |
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| Date | 2011-12-15 15:57 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Language (was RamDisc0) |
| Message-ID | <7da0054252.news@mistymornings.net> |
| In reply to | #2959 |
In message <027af24152.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com>
cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
> In message <0346914152.news@mistymornings.net>
> workstuff@mail.com wrote:
>
> > In message <6a61f94052.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com>
> > cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid wrote:
> >
> > > In message <4dc99f4052.news@mistymornings.net>
> > > workstuff@mail.com wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Yup. I think they come from the local hydro-electric plant about a
> > kilometre from here.
>
> Would you like to say - how much you pay - per unit for your electrity ?
>
I don't know how much it costs from the local company. There is a
"liberalised"* electricity market in Scandinavia. We buy our energy from
a company near Trondheim (one of the 50+ companies that supply energy to
consumers in this part of Norway).
We took out a fixed price plan base cost 45 øre per kWh. With various
standing charges and taxes included, it worked out at about 1 NOK per
unit which I think is about 11p. The local company was more expensive
for a fixed price plan.
This was for usage of around 10,000 kWh pa.
Cheers
Stan
--
An Iyonix and a Beagleboard xM in Buskerud.
http://mistymornings.net
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