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| Started by | Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> |
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| First post | 2011-11-11 18:05 +0000 |
| Last post | 2011-11-19 10:33 +0000 |
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RamDisc0 Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-11 18:05 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2011-11-12 11:19 +1300
Re: RamDisc0 Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 23:04 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 23:17 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Frank de Bruijn <zuiderduin@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-12 08:14 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Sprow <news@sprow.co.uk> - 2011-11-12 00:55 -0800
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-12 18:35 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-13 19:09 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 20:05 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-13 22:07 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 22:33 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 22:56 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-14 05:55 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-14 01:52 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-14 06:00 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-14 10:14 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-14 17:31 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-14 18:53 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 John Tytgat <this@is.invalid> - 2011-11-14 21:34 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-14 22:01 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-14 21:12 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:14 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:57 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Mister Ron <mrronman@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-14 14:14 -0800
Re: RamDisc0 Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-14 22:42 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 12:40 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-15 20:44 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 22:40 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:11 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-15 20:39 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 20:17 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 22:13 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 21:47 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:17 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 (now OT) Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:14 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 (now OT) Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:56 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 (now OT) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-16 05:38 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 (now OT) Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-16 08:37 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 (now OT) Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-16 08:14 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:49 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 22:24 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 23:38 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-16 13:29 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-15 19:26 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 19:55 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-16 05:49 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-16 22:39 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-19 09:52 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-22 09:50 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2011-11-22 16:02 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-26 16:10 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-28 11:40 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-29 07:40 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 20:36 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-16 22:47 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-17 18:05 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Barry Punchard <barry.punchard@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-17 20:19 +0200
Re: RamDisc0 M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2011-11-17 21:03 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2011-11-18 09:59 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Barry Punchard <barry.punchard@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-18 14:19 +0200
Re: RamDisc0 Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-17 19:12 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-18 07:51 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-18 10:06 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-22 13:39 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-11-22 13:24 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-11-24 15:28 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-11-24 15:48 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) News poster <workstuff@mail.com> - 2011-11-28 11:40 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-08 11:09 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> - 2011-12-08 10:15 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-08 12:02 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-10 13:15 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-12 10:29 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-12-12 11:18 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-12 12:12 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 22:53 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-13 12:58 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 16:05 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-13 17:35 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 18:57 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-13 19:15 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-14 08:09 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) "David Holden" <SpamBin@apdl.co.uk> - 2011-12-14 07:53 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2011-12-14 23:30 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-15 07:24 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2011-12-16 00:05 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-16 09:27 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-14 08:06 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) nervus <nervus@spam.nl> - 2011-12-12 19:53 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-12 20:45 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-12 23:08 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) nervus <nervus@spam.de> - 2011-12-14 11:54 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 06:25 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) nervus <nervus@spam.de> - 2011-12-14 11:46 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-12 22:48 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Harriet Bazley <bazley@feathermail.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 01:46 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-12-13 14:07 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-14 18:46 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-12-15 11:28 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-15 15:57 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-12 11:16 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-12 22:56 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2011-12-08 11:32 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-12-08 11:03 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) workstuff@mail.com - 2011-12-08 12:04 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-11-25 11:41 +0000
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) News poster <workstuff@mail.com> - 2011-11-28 11:40 +0100
Re: Language (was RamDisc0) Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-26 16:12 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rosemary Miskin <miskin@orpheusmail.co.uk> - 2011-11-17 19:17 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-20 12:45 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-20 13:53 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-18 21:12 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-20 17:43 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-20 19:41 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-11-20 21:17 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-20 23:39 +0100
Re: RamDisc0 M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2011-11-21 10:28 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-21 10:57 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 jgharston <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk> - 2011-11-25 10:36 -0800
Re: RamDisc0 Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> - 2011-11-14 11:02 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Rik Griffin <nospam@denbridgemarine.com> - 2011-11-14 14:50 +0000
Re: RamDisc0 Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-19 10:33 +0000
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| From | Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-15 22:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5232bb777cSpambin@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2512 |
In article <4ec2aca9$0$2511$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>, Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > Only 481 day 2 hours 14 minutes and some seconds left to retirement. > Don't say that - it's a common trope in movies that things happen to > those characters who say stuff like "only 'x' days until I retire!". I had a count-down timer program running on my works laptop for a year or so before I retired but I had to take it off because the company went through one of those "Anyone found with un-authorised software on their computers...." scenarios Can't remember what it was called, something like "Karen's countdown timer" or some such. -- Stuart Winsor Only plain text for emails http://www.asciiribbon.org
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| From | "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-15 23:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5232bcc61cUCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2523 |
In article <5232bb777cSpambin@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > I had a count-down timer program running on my works laptop for a year or > so before I retired but I had to take it off because the company went > through one of those "Anyone found with un-authorised software on their > computers...." scenarios > Can't remember what it was called, something like "Karen's countdown > timer" or some such. So Karen got early retirement? John -- John Williams, Brittany, Northern France - no attachments to these addresses! Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject! Who is John Williams? http://petit.four.free.fr/picindex/author/
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| From | John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-16 13:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52330e61cenewsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2523 |
In article <5232bb777cSpambin@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > In article > <4ec2aca9$0$2511$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>, Rick > Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > Only 481 day 2 hours 14 minutes and some seconds left > > > to retirement. > > Don't say that - it's a common trope in movies that > > things happen to those characters who say stuff like > > "only 'x' days until I retire!". > I had a count-down timer program running on my works > laptop for a year or so before I retired but I had to > take it off because the company went through one of those > "Anyone found with un-authorised software on their > computers...." scenarios > Can't remember what it was called, something like > "Karen's countdown timer" or some such. I had a small spreadsheet which used the start and end dates of employment and showed the number of days to go. It also showed the chuff factor (defined as days gone divided by days to go). On the first day of service the chuff factor was zero but, on the last day, I was infinitely chuffed! John -- John newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk j dot mccartney atte blueyonder dot co dot uk
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| From | Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2011-11-15 19:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bd32ab3252.dougjwebb@btinternet.com> |
| In reply to | #2476 |
In message <5231b078c8dave@triffid.co.uk>
Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
>
> Gimme more screen staring time, unfortunately sleep and work intervene. ;-)
> Only 481 day 2 hours 14 minutes and some seconds left to retirement.
> Dave
Ooh bxxxxr the Mayans were right, 2012 is the end of the world as no
doubt Dave will be able to send even more ditties than he does now :-)
--
Using an IYONIX pc and RISC OS 5.17, the thinking person's alternative
operating system to Microsoft Windows.
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| From | Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-15 19:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5232add101dave@triffid.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2516 |
In article <bd32ab3252.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote: > In message <5231b078c8dave@triffid.co.uk> > Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote: > [snip] > > > > Gimme more screen staring time, unfortunately sleep and work > > intervene. ;-) > > Only 481 day 2 hours 14 minutes and some seconds left to retirement. > > Dave > Ooh bxxxxr the Mayans were right, 2012 is the end of the world as no > doubt Dave will be able to send even more ditties than he does now :-) Maybe I'm the son of Galactus... (Assuming you know the legend/origin of Galactus) It's down to 479 days 4 hours and eight minutes now... (I have Bernard's Zero hour count down timer just above my icon bar). Dave -- Dave Triffid
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-16 05:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <4ec340e1$0$5666$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #2516 |
On 15/11/2011 20:26, Doug Webb wrote: > Ooh bxxxxr the Mayans were right, 2012 is the end of the world as no > doubt Dave will be able to send even more ditties than he does now :-) Or maybe the Mayans were right, and Dave's last words will be... ...unprintable. ;-) That aside, wasn't there supposed to be some giant lump of rock with a name like Nobiru (is that said like Japanese "no beer", or "knob irew", or what?) to come slam into the earth? That would put a downer on anybody's day. Or maybe the world will tear itself apart from Oklahoma [*] outwards. * - anybody who has earthquake advisories on their phone will probably know why I picked Oklahoma, that city perched perilously over twenty dozen fault lines [#]... oh, wait, hang on...? # - although given the amount of "fracking" in the locality, maybe that's a truism? Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | workstuff@mail.com |
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| Date | 2011-11-16 22:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <033f3b3352.news@mistymornings.net> |
| In reply to | #2472 |
In message <5231a82e21dave@triffid.co.uk>
Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <d17b9c3152.news@mistymornings.net>,
> <workstuff@mail.com> wrote:
> > In message <52311afdc9dave@triffid.co.uk>
> > Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > [snip]
> > > You chaps really should get yourselves an up-to-date (ish) RISC OS
> > > version.
> > >
> > > Doesn't happen here, either case, with 4.39 or 6.20 ;-)
> > >
> > Ah yes. That's the other great advantage of newsgroups over forums. With
> > a forum you can moderate out most of the attempts at assinine point
> > scoring.
>
> > Long live Usenet and all the freedom it brings.
>
> > Stan
>
> Somebody needs to get a life... You obviously ignored the ;-)
> Guess you don't do humour/irony.
>
> Gordon Bennett...
You obviously ignored the heavy irony in my post.
Guess you don't do irony.
Stan
--
An Iyonix in Buskerud.
http://mistymornings.net
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| From | Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-19 09:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <523485ffc5tim@invalid.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #2538 |
In article <033f3b3352.news@mistymornings.net>, <workstuff@mail.com> wrote: > In message <5231a82e21dave@triffid.co.uk> Dave Symes > <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote: > > In article <d17b9c3152.news@mistymornings.net>, <workstuff@mail.com> > > wrote: [Snip] > > > Ah yes. That's the other great advantage of newsgroups over forums. > > > With a forum you can moderate out most of the attempts at assinine > > > point scoring. > > > > > Long live Usenet and all the freedom it brings. [Snip] > > Somebody needs to get a life... You obviously ignored the ;-) Guess > > you don't do humour/irony. > > > > Gordon Bennett... > You obviously ignored the heavy irony in my post. Guess you don't do > irony. We cannot hear your tone of voice or read your body language. You need to add the punctuations or emoticon for irony. !!! or ;-) will do. Perhaps you have emoticon blindness. ;-) But I concur with the sentiment about some non-moderation. I am no fan of censorship in an environment where it's so easy to skip (or even filter out) messages and be your own censor. -- Tim Hill of timil.com . . . * supports TFT & shares in cheaper ethical telecoms http://tjrh.eu/phone * has a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/ * accepts incoming email: substitute postmaster@ for tim@ ... "For where thou art, there is the world itself, and where though art not, desolation" Henry VI, Act iii, Sc.2
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| From | workstuff@mail.com |
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| Date | 2011-11-22 09:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2bdd0b3652.news@mistymornings.net> |
| In reply to | #2582 |
In message <523485ffc5tim@invalid.org.uk>
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <033f3b3352.news@mistymornings.net>, <workstuff@mail.com>
> wrote:
> > In message <5231a82e21dave@triffid.co.uk> Dave Symes
> > <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > In article <d17b9c3152.news@mistymornings.net>, <workstuff@mail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> [Snip]
>
> > > > Ah yes. That's the other great advantage of newsgroups over forums.
> > > > With a forum you can moderate out most of the attempts at assinine
> > > > point scoring.
> > >
> > > > Long live Usenet and all the freedom it brings.
>
> [Snip]
>
> > > Somebody needs to get a life... You obviously ignored the ;-) Guess
> > > you don't do humour/irony.
> > >
> > > Gordon Bennett...
>
> > You obviously ignored the heavy irony in my post. Guess you don't do
> > irony.
>
> We cannot hear your tone of voice or read your body language. You need to
> add the punctuations or emoticon for irony. !!! or ;-) will do. Perhaps
> you have emoticon blindness. ;-)
<;)>
Really? You can't read my body language or hear the tone of my voice
when I post to a newsgroup. Gee, I never knew that!
(emoticontosignifysarcasm)
Ah yes. The Emoticon. But what *exactly* does the emoticon mean and what
does it do? (emoticontosignifycuriousity)
Does an emoticon make a contentious comment suddenly acceptable?
Does appending this ;) to a statment mean "the statement I just made is
to be taken as meaningless"? If so, then why just not resist the
temptation to make the comment (emoticontosignifyduh!).
Does this ;) mean I have made a real joke, or just one of those "flauw"
comments that Brits make, that pass for jokes between residents the
British Isles?
Is it a sign of the wish of the passive-aggressive person to avoid a
visible altercation at all costs? Stick a smiley at the end of the
sentence and no-one will get upset? ;)
Can you use this ;) to try to goad a long term adversary, and then turn
round and say "didn't you see the smiley"?
Those are just a few of the interpretations relating to the use of a
smiley all of them with differing meanings. Thus, in much the same way
that it is impossible to 'read' body language of tone of voice on the
internet it is also pretty much impossible to know "exactly" what the
poster was trying to achieve when they added a smiley at the end of a
sentence.
Given that the smiley is such a blunt weapon, why bother using it?
IMHO using a smiley in public forums is really rather like parking on
double yellow lines and then putting your hazard warning lights on.
>
> But I concur with the sentiment about some non-moderation. I am no fan of
> censorship in an environment where it's so easy to skip (or even filter
> out) messages and be your own censor.
>
Clearly I should have used and emoticon when I made that statement. But
I take your point. Unfortunately, the modern tendency to errect walls
round parts of "our" "free" and "open" internet seems irreversible.
Regards
Stan
</;)>
--
An Iyonix in Buskerud.
http://mistymornings.net
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| From | Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-11-22 16:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <csamdc5d333652.Bryn@yo.rk> |
| In reply to | #2648 |
In a mad moment - workstuff@mail.com mumbled : %< > Given that the smiley is such a blunt weapon, why bother using it? > IMHO using a smiley in public forums is really rather like parking on > double yellow lines and then putting your hazard warning lights on. >> I am undecided in this debate (:) -- |) [ |)ryn [vans mail to - BrynEvans@bryork.freeuk.com
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| From | Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-26 16:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5238437121tim@invalid.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #2648 |
In article <2bdd0b3652.news@mistymornings.net>, <workstuff@mail.com> wrote: [Snip] > Really? You can't read my body language or hear the tone of my voice > when I post to a newsgroup. Gee, I never knew that! > (emoticontosignifysarcasm) In that case, the ! is probably sufficient. > Ah yes. The Emoticon. But what *exactly* does the emoticon mean and > what does it do? (emoticontosignifycuriousity) In that case the ? is probably sufficient. > Does an emoticon make a contentious comment suddenly acceptable? It can. > Does appending this ;) to a statment mean "the statement I just made is > to be taken as meaningless"? If so, then why just not resist the > temptation to make the comment (emoticontosignifyduh!). No. You are just being obtuse. [snip] ;) or ;-) means 'I am joking'. If you don't get that where have you been for the last thirty years? :-( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticons Next in this thread: why we should top and tail usenet postings with 'Dear Reader' and 'Yours sincerely'. ;-D -- Tim Hill of timil.com . . . * supports TFT & shares in cheaper ethical telecoms http://tjrh.eu/phone * has a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/ * accepts incoming email: substitute postmaster@ for tim@ ... "Do thy worst old Time; despite thy wrong, my love shall in my verse ever live young" Sonnet 19
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| From | workstuff@mail.com |
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| Date | 2011-11-28 11:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <eded2c3952.news@mistymornings.net> |
| In reply to | #2713 |
In message <5238437121tim@invalid.org.uk>
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <2bdd0b3652.news@mistymornings.net>, <workstuff@mail.com>
> wrote:
>
[smip]
>
> > Does an emoticon make a contentious comment suddenly acceptable?
>
> It can.
>
> > Does appending this ;) to a statment mean "the statement I just made is
> > to be taken as meaningless"? If so, then why just not resist the
> > temptation to make the comment (emoticontosignifyduh!).
>
> No. You are just being obtuse.
No, IYHO I am being obtuse. Instead of writing something that you don't
mean and then plonk a smiley after it, why not just write what you do
mean?
>
> [snip]
>
> ;) or ;-) means 'I am joking'.
Or rather, "I am attempting to make a comment which may well offend but
I hope will be received as a joke".
>
> If you don't get that where have you been for the last thirty years? :-(
It isn't that I don't get it, it is that a smiley is still ambiguous,
for the reasons listed above. Your comment in reply to this:
And I quote:
> > Does an emoticon make a contentious comment suddenly
acceptable?
>
> It can.
End of quote
...means that sometimes "It can't". So adding a smiley does not always
have the same effect. Hence, a smiley is an additional source of
ambiguity rather than something that always makes meaning clearer.
It is also clear that the effect of the smiley depends on the way the
reader interprets the smiley in the context of the preceeding comment.
[snip]
Regards
Stan
--
An Iyonix in Buskerud.
http://mistymornings.net
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-29 07:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <4ed47e4f$0$5667$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #2735 |
On 28/11/2011 11:40, workstuff@mail.com wrote: > No, IYHO I am being obtuse. Instead of writing something that you don't > mean and then plonk a smiley after it, why not just write what you do > mean? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm ? > Or rather, "I am attempting to make a comment which may well offend but > I hope will be received as a joke". Or "I am making a joke here, but some people might take it *entirely* the wrong way, and since I'm not there to give them cues as to how I'm aiming this, I'll stick a smiley at the end to indicate not to take things so bloody seriously". > it is that a smiley is still ambiguous, True, but then so's our language. > ....means that sometimes "It can't". Well, I think if you were to write something like "your mother is a dirty <expletive>" or to use "the N word", no amount of smiley action will make that work. Sadly there are some people who think that it's okay to be a racist offensive twit, so long as they suffix a smiley, then it's okay. I would say in these sorts of circumstances... "it (definitely)can't". > So adding a smiley does not always have the same effect. Hence, a > smiley is an additional source of ambiguity rather than something > that always makes meaning clearer. I think, rather than being too literal, it is used to indicate that something is lighthearted, or tongue-in-cheek, etc. Whether you wish to take it as such, or not, depends a lot on the material in question. For example, we could be talking about antivirus (which reminds me, don't we have anything newer than a VProtect over a decade old?) - and I could reply: Don't bother, just get a Mac. Macs are better. They don't get viruses. Whether you think I'm a lunatic fanboi, or just a lunatic, depends on whether you get the mocking sarcasm dripping from every word. As you can't *hear* me say it, the next best thing is to stick a smiley face afterwards. This, incidently, would bait the *other* set of trolls, but that's a metaphysical use of smileys and is beyond the scope of this message. > It is also clear that the effect of the smiley depends on the way the > reader interprets the smiley in the context of the preceeding comment. Indeed. But then, isn't this the case for most communications? Consider you are hauled into the nick on some minor accusation that is later dropped. As you leave, the rozzer that was interrogating you mutters "I'd watch my step if I were you". Does this mean: 1. Dude, don't hang with those guys, they're bad news. or: 2. Late night, dark alley, you and me, kiss your ass goodbye. The difference is not in the words, but how they are delivered. (nods) This is (emphasis:)lacking from written communication, (pause) and as such, (pause) we can (stress:)either do without any cues and hope for the best, (pause) (stress:)or insert loads of markers (giggle - thinks: should that be in scare quotes?) to pass on this sort of seemingly extraneous information (whoo, big words! (smile))? I think you'll agree that a smiley here or there is a visual clue not as to how you are supposed to interpret the words, but rather as to how they were intended. Of course, some people abuse them. But, then again, there's a guy I know that ends EVERY SENTENCE (yes, in shouty mode) with the phrase "lol". Really? lol He is laughing out loud? lol At EVERYTHING? lol Does he even know what it means? lol [yes, it *is* that bad, and it is that annoying! lo...oh forget it!] :-) <-- awooga! awooga! awooga! [*] Best wishes, Rick. * - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=AWOOGA
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| From | Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-13 20:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5231a9f2c1ajg@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2470 |
In article <d17b9c3152.news@mistymornings.net>, <workstuff@mail.com> wrote: > > You chaps really should get yourselves an up-to-date (ish) RISC OS > > version. > > > > Doesn't happen here, either case, with 4.39 or 6.20 ;-) > > > Ah yes. That's the other great advantage of newsgroups over forums. > With a forum you can moderate out most of the attempts at assinine > point scoring. ^^^^^^^^ Don't you mean "asinine"?! Alan Griffin
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| From | workstuff@mail.com |
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| Date | 2011-11-16 22:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <3cfe3b3352.news@mistymornings.net> |
| In reply to | #2473 |
In message <5231a9f2c1ajg@argonet.co.uk>
Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <d17b9c3152.news@mistymornings.net>, <workstuff@mail.com>
> wrote:
> > > You chaps really should get yourselves an up-to-date (ish) RISC OS
> > > version.
> > >
> > > Doesn't happen here, either case, with 4.39 or 6.20 ;-)
> > >
> > Ah yes. That's the other great advantage of newsgroups over forums.
> > With a forum you can moderate out most of the attempts at assinine
> > point scoring. ^^^^^^^^
>
> Don't you mean "asinine"?!
The three language I use regularly.
English: address
Dutch: adres
Norwegian: adresse
You're really worried about extra "esses"?
Even so, thanks for being so observant. I realised recently that I have
been mis-spelling "pronounciation" and "hononyms" all my life.
Stan
--
An Iyonix in Buskerud.
http://mistymornings.net
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-17 18:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <4ec53ec2$0$2500$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #2539 |
On 16/11/2011 22:47, workstuff@mail.com wrote: > I realised recently that I have been mis-spelling "pronounciation" > and "hononyms" all my life. The first one is understandable given how you make pronOUncements and pronOUnce things, yet this is your pronUncitation?!? I believe that every language has a certain "bull" factor. In French, we could say it is the gender issue which doesn't seem to serve any actual purpose. English, on the other hand, is a fairly simple easy to learn language. Until you get to the specifics. Like how to look at a word with "ough" in it and know how to say it correctly. Why is "Woking" not said like an Asian utensil, but is "whoa-king"? If the "in" suffix negates something (incoherent, inconsistent), then why the hell does flammable and INflammable mean the same thing? One could argue that correct proper English is a very difficult language due to all this "bull". Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | Barry Punchard <barry.punchard@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2011-11-17 20:19 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <feb9ac3352.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com> |
| In reply to | #2540 |
On 17 Nov heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On 16/11/2011 22:47, workstuff@mail.com wrote:
>
> > I realised recently that I have been mis-spelling "pronounciation"
> > and "hononyms" all my life.
>
> The first one is understandable given how you make pronOUncements and
> pronOUnce things, yet this is your pronUncitation?!?
>
> I believe that every language has a certain "bull" factor. In French, we
> could say it is the gender issue which doesn't seem to serve any actual
> purpose.
Oh, I think you'll find it does. Being a little older, I know these
things. ;-)
>
> English, on the other hand, is a fairly simple easy to learn language.
Yes, I found I could learn it at the age of 1 or younger. But then again my
parents spoke it.
> Until you get to the specifics. Like how to look at a word with "ough"
> in it and know how to say it correctly. Why is "Woking" not said like an
> Asian utensil, but is "whoa-king"?
You must be joking!
> If the "in" suffix negates something (incoherent, inconsistent), then why the
> hell does flammable and INflammable mean the same thing? One could argue that
> correct proper English is a very difficult language due to all this "bull".
>
The words about 30 years ago were inflammable and non-inflammable. There was no
such thing as flammable. Then along came people who couldn't speak English and
started burning themselves because they thought they were non-inflammable, when
actually they were inflammable. They suggested we call it 'flammable' instead
and the linguists amongt us became inflamed and flamed the ignorant ones, but to
no avail.
That is the problem these days. Over the past thousand years or more we have
borrowed from the Greek, but with the current Greek debt crisis, they have
started to borrow from us.
You know it makes sense!
> Best wishes,
>
> Rick.
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| From | M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-17 21:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5233bbca5briscos@mdharding.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #2542 |
In article <feb9ac3352.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>, Barry Punchard <barry.punchard@btinternet.com> wrote: > On 17 Nov heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > > On 16/11/2011 22:47, workstuff@mail.com wrote: > > > > > I realised recently that I have been mis-spelling > > > "pronounciation" and "hononyms" all my life. > > > > The first one is understandable given how you make pronOUncements > > and pronOUnce things, yet this is your pronUncitation?!? > > > > I believe that every language has a certain "bull" factor. In > > French, we could say it is the gender issue which doesn't seem > > to serve any actual purpose. > Oh, I think you'll find it does. Being a little older, I know > these things. ;-) Barry is right. Have you never heard of the man who went to a banquet and found he was placed next to a French big-wig? Trying desperately to recall some schoolboy French, he attempted conversation. He picked up the menu. "Le Menu!" he declared. "Oui, monsieur, le menu." At that moment a fly landed on the menu. "Le mouche est sur le menu." "Non, monsieur, LA mouche. Ze fly eez feminine." The man turned to the neighbour on the other side. "Amazing eyesight this Frenchie's got!" It's for optometrists. Michael Harding Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk
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| From | Richard Travers <richtnews@uwclub.net> |
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| Date | 2011-11-18 09:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <523402c8a3richtnews@uwclub.net> |
| In reply to | #2542 |
In article <feb9ac3352.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>, Barry Punchard <barry.punchard@btinternet.com> wrote: > The words about 30 years ago were inflammable and non-inflammable. There > was no such thing as flammable. Then along came people who couldn't > speak English and started burning themselves because they thought they > were non-inflammable, when actually they were inflammable. They > suggested we call it 'flammable' instead and the linguists amongt us > became inflamed and flamed the ignorant ones, but to no avail. It would be interesting to have a source for that little story - it sounds like a modern post-rationalisation. According to Oxford, the word 'flammable' dates back to the early 1800s, i.e. a bit longer than 30 years ago. Inflammable is earlier, though, going back to the 17th century. R. -- Richard Travers richtnews@uwclub.net
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| From | Barry Punchard <barry.punchard@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2011-11-18 14:19 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <06a80f3452.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com> |
| In reply to | #2557 |
On 18 Nov richtnews@uwclub.net wrote:
> In article <feb9ac3352.barry.punchard@barry.btinternet.com>, Barry Punchard
> <barry.punchard@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > The words about 30 years ago were inflammable and non-inflammable. There
> > was no such thing as flammable. Then along came people who couldn't
> > speak English and started burning themselves because they thought they
> > were non-inflammable, when actually they were inflammable. They
> > suggested we call it 'flammable' instead and the linguists amongt us
> > became inflamed and flamed the ignorant ones, but to no avail.
>
> It would be interesting to have a source for that little story - it sounds
> like a modern post-rationalisation.
Ah, yes.... Actually, it came from my own head and memory when writing. I
suppose modern post-rationalism is another way of saying 'recent onset of senile
dementia'.
>
> According to Oxford, the word 'flammable' dates back to the early 1800s,
> i.e. a bit longer than 30 years ago. Inflammable is earlier, though, going
> back to the 17th century.
>
> R.
>
Barry, ...I think.
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