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| Started by | "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2011-11-24 23:46 +0000 |
| Last post | 2011-12-01 07:24 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 90 — 27 participants |
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Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-11-24 23:46 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-25 08:47 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-25 09:39 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2011-11-25 10:12 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-25 10:23 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Grahame Parish <maillist.parish@millers-way.net> - 2011-11-25 10:57 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-25 11:03 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Chris <decordova@ukgateway.net> - 2011-11-26 01:03 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-11-26 11:18 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> - 2011-11-25 11:29 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2011-11-25 16:29 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-26 15:51 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2011-11-26 16:20 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-11-26 16:28 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-28 10:38 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-30 20:33 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-01 06:53 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-01 08:40 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> - 2011-12-01 09:17 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-01 10:15 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-04 07:27 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-04 07:50 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 15:41 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-04 11:03 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2011-12-04 11:44 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-04 15:26 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-04 19:07 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-04 21:05 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-04 23:36 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 15:49 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-12 10:57 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 11:18 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-12 11:47 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 12:22 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 14:19 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 13:47 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 16:40 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 15:46 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 05:58 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 00:21 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 06:17 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-13 09:29 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-12-13 18:55 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-14 08:18 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2011-12-15 20:53 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Dave Higton <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> - 2011-12-15 20:42 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-13 12:26 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-12 11:18 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-12 19:43 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-13 13:25 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-04 23:48 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-12-04 16:00 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-04 20:56 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 15:53 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2011-12-05 15:11 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 15:19 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 16:51 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 18:40 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 18:59 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Martin Wynn <m.wynn@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 19:09 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-05 23:03 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-06 06:53 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Simon <simon.willcocks@t-online.de> - 2011-12-05 23:46 -0800
Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-06 14:38 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Simon <simon.willcocks@t-online.de> - 2011-12-06 09:52 -0800
Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-06 23:05 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-07 08:58 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-09 09:13 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-06 10:06 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-06 14:40 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-12 11:06 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2011-12-06 19:56 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2011-12-06 20:58 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-06 23:10 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2011-12-07 10:24 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-09 09:22 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-12-12 11:09 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-05 21:14 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> - 2011-12-06 09:49 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-12-06 10:52 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> - 2011-12-06 11:47 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-26 16:32 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-26 16:27 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-26 16:34 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-11-26 16:46 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-27 04:56 +0100
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-29 08:23 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-11-29 10:54 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-29 11:55 +0000
Re: Had a bit of fun today... Brian Bailey <bbailey@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-01 07:24 +0000
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| From | "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-24 23:46 +0000 |
| Subject | Had a bit of fun today... |
| Message-ID | <5237657d38dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
Was waiting in for the post today when the phone rang. Obviously a call
centre by the accent. Would normally just put the phone down, but played
them along since I was killing time. It was the site where they tell you
that you've got a virus, etc.
Telling them I was using Oregano 1 as a browser didn't put them off, and I
went to their site and downloaded their prog, which I presume shows you
all the viruses you have. Real or imagined. When asked to run it I read
out the 4.39 error message. Got passed on from the salesman to a 'senior
technician'. Who took me to a different site and another download. I read
out the same error message to him. After some more faffing about and me
acting even more concerned, he passed me on to the chief technician. Who
sounded English, with a very posh accent. Repeated the whole thing again,
and he still hadn't the sense to ask what operating system I was using.
After near half an hour the doorbell went so I asked them to hang on while
I signed for the post I'd been waiting for. And he did. I then asked them
if their prog was designed to run on RISC OS. He didn't know what I was
talking about so I cut off the call and went out. With a pleasant feeling
having wasted their time instead of the other way round.
--
*Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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| From | Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-25 08:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5237970877Spambin@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2684 |
In article <5237657d38dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: <SNIP for brevity> > With a pleasant feeling having wasted their time instead of the other > way round Brilliant! -- Stuart Winsor Only plain text for emails http://www.asciiribbon.org
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-11-25 09:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52379bd376see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2684 |
In article <5237657d38dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > Was waiting in for the post today when the phone rang. > Obviously a call centre by the accent. Would normally > just put the phone down, but played them along since I > was killing time. It was the site where they tell you > that you've got a virus, etc. [Snip Story] There was a thread about this on uk.telecom recently. One suggstion was, when they ask for payment, to ask if they took luncheon vouchers. :-))) -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-25 10:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52379ed30dNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2684 |
On 24 Nov, in article <5237657d38dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > With a pleasant feeling having wasted their time instead of the other > way round. Me too! I asked them to wait while I booted my computer ... some time later ... then they asked me to click on the Start icon icon bottom left... I said the icon bottom left was a disc icon ... took them some time to ask what OS I had ... also never heard of RISC OS. And during this I was using RO quite happily as normal, and using a speaker-phone to give suitable concerned replies! Should be a competition for length of their time wasted! I only managed about 7 minutes. -- Martin Avison Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid without notice if (when) any spam is received.
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| From | Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-25 10:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52379fd3c6ajg@argonet.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2684 |
In article <5237657d38dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > Was waiting in for the post today when the phone rang. Obviously a > call centre by the accent. Would normally just put the phone down, > but played them along since I was killing time. It was the site where > they tell you that you've got a virus, etc. > Telling them I was using Oregano 1 as a browser didn't put them off, > and I went to their site and downloaded their prog, which I presume > shows you all the viruses you have. Real or imagined. When asked to > run it I read out the 4.39 error message. Got passed on from the > salesman to a 'senior technician'. Who took me to a different site > and another download. I read out the same error message to him. After > some more faffing about and me acting even more concerned, he passed > me on to the chief technician. Who sounded English, with a very posh > accent. Repeated the whole thing again, and he still hadn't the sense > to ask what operating system I was using. After near half an hour the > doorbell went so I asked them to hang on while I signed for the post > I'd been waiting for. And he did. I then asked them if their prog was > designed to run on RISC OS. He didn't know what I was talking about > so I cut off the call and went out. With a pleasant feeling having > wasted their time instead of the other way round. The same thing happened to me last week. I kept them on the phone for over half an hour. They didn't believe me when I said there was no green "Start" at the bottom left of the screen, or that there was no key in between Crl and Alt! They asked if I had "Windows" and I said that my computer had Windows while Microsoft were still using DOS! I too got passed to more and more senior engineers, who were not intelligent enough to guess, when I read out the error messages when I double-clicked on their programs, that I had a different OS! Eventually I had to tell them that I used RISC OS and they then left me on hold while presumably they looked it up on Google. They then came back and apologised for troubling me! Alan Griffin
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| From | Grahame Parish <maillist.parish@millers-way.net> |
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| Date | 2011-11-25 10:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jansaq$jum$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2688 |
On 25/11/2011 10:23, Alan Griffin wrote: > In article<5237657d38dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) > <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: >> Was waiting in for the post today when the phone rang. Obviously a >> call centre by the accent. Would normally just put the phone down, >> but played them along since I was killing time. It was the site where >> they tell you that you've got a virus, etc. [snip] > The same thing happened to me last week. I kept them on the phone for > over half an hour. They didn't believe me when I said there was no > green "Start" at the bottom left of the screen, or that there was no > key in between Crl and Alt! They asked if I had "Windows" and I said > that my computer had Windows while Microsoft were still using DOS! [snip] I must get a couple of these a month. The first time I dragged it out as long as possible to see what they were up to. I learned that in Windows .INF files are 'Internet Notorious Files'! As I had so many my computer was apparently badly affected. Eventually he transferred me to a specialist who confirmed the various problems again (warnings and errors in the event log, .INF files, etc.) and asked me to go to a website to download some software (remote access client) which I refused to do before explaining that I was a Microsoft trained IT consultant and I knew it was a scam - he complained that I was wasting his time and should have told him earlier that I knew what was going on! :) I've done the same on many more occasions, but they are starting to notice when you are too quick at responding to their questions. One told me that I sounded intelligent and wanted to know what I did for a living. Once I said IT he hung up straight away, so the trick is to sound baffled and react slowly to their instructions if you want to make them waste their time. The one this morning got a slightly shorter response - "I know it's a scam so **** *** (alternate wording for 'go away')" as I couldn't be bothered. Grahame.
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-11-25 11:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5237a38c75see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2688 |
In article <52379fd3c6ajg@argonet.co.uk>, Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > The same thing happened to me last week. I kept them on > the phone for over half an hour. They didn't believe me > when I said there was no green "Start" at the bottom left > of the screen, or that there was no key in between Crl > and Alt! They ought to be familiar with that one by now. I used that ploy on them (accurate at the time, though not today) and I know others have too. [Snip] > Eventually I had to tell them that I used RISC OS I have told them that at the start, when I wanted to annoy them rather than keep them hanging on, and it always confuses them. They kept on assuming that it was MacOS or Linux, and kept asking which one. Next time perhaps I should say Commodore or Atari. Another thought I just had; when they ask you to download something, tell them you are on dialup and ask then for a credit card number that you can charge the cost of the call to. No doubt they have plenty of stolen card data at their fingertips. > up on Google -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Chris <decordova@ukgateway.net> |
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| Date | 2011-11-26 01:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5237eaf245decordova@ukgateway.net> |
| In reply to | #2690 |
I can' wait for my call .... loads of ideas here, thanks!! -- Chris de Cordova Dancing is a perpendicular expression of a horizontal desire.
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| From | "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-26 11:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <523828adc0dave@davenoise.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2704 |
In article <5237eaf245decordova@ukgateway.net>,
Chris <decordova@ukgateway.net> wrote:
> I can' wait for my call .... loads of ideas here, thanks!!
The beauty is you can do it all without telling a single lie, and
answering their questions fully. Their problem is they don't ask the right
questions at the start.
--
*My dog can lick anyone
Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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| From | Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> |
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| Date | 2011-11-25 11:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5237a5e21enews@highpath.net> |
| In reply to | #2684 |
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > Was waiting in for the post today when the phone rang. Obviously a > call centre by the accent. Would normally just put the phone down, > but played them along since I was killing time. I once had a supposed finance company which was desperate to make me a loan to buy a new vehicle, and I agreed to answer their questuions as they filled in an application form on my behalf. Questions like 'What model would you like?' and 'How much does it cost?' to which I answered 'Holdsworth Mistral' and '£1500', and so on, but I refused to give them my bank details. It was a long time before they realised that the new vehicle I wanted was a bicycle - they withdrew their offer!
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| From | Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-11-25 16:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <csam0c5dc13752.Bryn@yo.rk> |
| In reply to | #2691 |
In a mad moment - Chris Bell mumbled : > Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: >> Was waiting in for the post today when the phone rang. Obviously a >> call centre by the accent. Would normally just put the phone down, >> but played them along since I was killing time. Usually I just put the phone on Speaker and Mute and let them deal with a silent answer. This week I answered and asked what they wanted (as if I didn't know) and when they said "Is your computer getting slow to start?" I said No, my computer starts within Two Seconds. Cry of disbelief and asked for answer again. After several attempts the 'Innocent?' young lady said "I think you are playing with me" and hung up. [I rever actually LIED to them, I've still got a BBC B] Previously when I answered and Windows was mentioned I said I was sick of being called as all my windows were fully double glazed ! Are we trying for the record in wasting their time and 'phone money? -- |) [ |)ryn [vans mail to - BrynEvans@bryork.freeuk.com
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| From | Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-26 15:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <523841c064tim@invalid.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #2696 |
In article <csam0c5dc13752.Bryn@yo.rk>, Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> wrote: > In a mad moment - Chris Bell mumbled : > > Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: > >> Was waiting in for the post today when the phone rang. Obviously a > >> call centre by the accent. Would normally just put the phone down, > >> but played them along since I was killing time. > Usually I just put the phone on Speaker and Mute and let them deal > with a silent answer. When confronted with someone obviously from a call centre in Asia who says his name is 'Malcolm' I used to tell them they are wasting their time because the name is obviously a lie and I would never do business with a company who asks its staff to lie. This is usually greeted with a long silence and a click. :-) These days, time is too short so I check CLI for 'Unknown' or 'Withheld' and don't answer. Anyone important can leave a message, sales drones tend not to bother, thankfully. Given that police and local authority advice is to do this to stop being bothered by nuisance calls they make me laugh as they withhold their own numbers as a matter of course. -- Tim Hill of timil.com . . . * supports TFT & shares in cheaper ethical telecoms http://tjrh.eu/phone * has a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/ * accepts incoming email: substitute postmaster@ for tim@ ... "The purest treasure mortal times afford, is spotless reputation" Richard II, Act i, Sc.i
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| From | Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> |
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| Date | 2011-11-26 16:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mpro.lva01n00001g600j8@ypical.nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2710 |
In message <523841c064tim@invalid.org.uk>
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> Given that police and local authority advice is to do this to stop being
> bothered by nuisance calls they make me laugh as they withhold their own
> numbers as a matter of course.
That's because, like the hospital where I worked, they're calling from
behind a switchboard from an extention that may not be for their sole use.
--
Fred
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| From | Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> |
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| Date | 2011-11-26 16:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20111126162834.4bd63e14@office> |
| In reply to | #2715 |
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:20:11 +0000 Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> wrote: > In message <523841c064tim@invalid.org.uk> > Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote: > > > Given that police and local authority advice is to do this to stop being > > bothered by nuisance calls they make me laugh as they withhold their own > > numbers as a matter of course. > > That's because, like the hospital where I worked, they're calling from > behind a switchboard from an extention that may not be for their sole use. > I wait for the 8th ring. Call centres, and automated phone spams almost always ring off before then because they don't want to get diverted to a voicemail. -- Will J G
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| From | Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-11-28 10:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <60b52c3952.barrygray@virginmedia.com> |
| In reply to | #2719 |
In message <20111126162834.4bd63e14@office>
Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:20:11 +0000
> Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>> In message <523841c064tim@invalid.org.uk>
>> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Given that police and local authority advice is to do this to stop being
>>> bothered by nuisance calls they make me laugh as they withhold their own
>>> numbers as a matter of course.
>>
>> That's because, like the hospital where I worked, they're calling from
>> behind a switchboard from an extention that may not be for their sole use.
>>
> I wait for the 8th ring. Call centres, and automated phone spams
> almost always
> ring off before then because they don't want to get diverted to a voicemail.
A device called TrueCall (http://www.truecall.co.uk) does all the hard
work for you. It intercepts all your calls in a very flexible way: you
can star or block numbers so they are always or never put straight
through, allow only close family to call you between 2300 and 0700,
otherwise leave a message, ask number withheld numbers to leave a
short message which you can listen to before deciding whether to take
the call, ask overseas numbers to press a randomly generated number
within five seconds, etc etc.
We do not yet have one (less than £100) but it is on our Santa List.
Anyone out there got one? Do let me, or perhaps everyone, know what it
is like.
Barry
--
Barry Gray
http://www.barrygray.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
A child is a fire to be lit not a vessel to be filled
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-11-30 20:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <523a6adf8bsee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2734 |
In article <60b52c3952.barrygray@virginmedia.com>, Barry Gray <barrygray@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > I wait for the 8th ring. Call centres, and automated > > phone spams almost always ring off before then because > > they don't want to get diverted to a voicemail. > A device called TrueCall (http://www.truecall.co.uk) does > all the hard work for you. It intercepts all your calls > in a very flexible way: you can star or block numbers so > they are always or never put straight through, allow only > close family to call you between 2300 and 0700, otherwise > leave a message, ask number withheld numbers to leave a > short message which you can listen to before deciding > whether to take the call, ask overseas numbers to press a > randomly generated number within five seconds, etc etc. > We do not yet have one (less than £100) but it is on our > Santa List. Anyone out there got one? Do let me, or > perhaps everyone, know what it is like. There have been threads off and on about it on uk.telecom. As far as I can tell it does what it what it claims to do quite well. To quote from the website, "trueCall is the complete solution to all types of nuisance phone call - telemarketing, silent calls, calls from overseas call centres, fax calls, robocalls, market researchers, malicious calls, misdials, wrong numbers and recorded message calls." The trouble is, it is incapable of distinguishing between nuisance calls from overseas call centres and real calls from overseas friends, relatives, business partners and customers, because BT refuse to pass on CLI from outwith the UK on spurious data protection grounds. After all, the mobile operators all pass on foreign CLI and have been doing so for years, and the data protection registrar has not complained. Equally, it is incapable of distinguishing between withheld CLI from nuisance callers and withheld CLI from friends and family calling from the local hospital, or the police trying to contact you in a possible emergency, or any number of businesses whose switches were configured on the cheap, or friends and family who have chosen, for whatever reason, to have CLI withheld on their calls. No system (apart from 999 call centres and similar, which override withheld CLI) can make this distinction. You can ask friends and family who call you to, if necessary, prefix their calls to you with 1470 which releases the withheld CLI, otherwise you are stuck. The third problem it cannot cope with is the plethora of numbers that nuisance calls present. The PPI scammers, for example, seem to change the number presented on just about a daily basis. That, or there are hundreds out there, all using the same recorded announcements... If none of the above problems concern you, then a trueCall may indeed be what you want. For me, it would be a liability. -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-12-01 06:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <4ed71661$0$5687$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> |
| In reply to | #2772 |
On 30/11/2011 21:33, Russell Hafter News wrote: > For me, it would be a liability. As long as your phone is within easy reach, you just pick it up and... Hello, this is SuperSaverSolicitors and we... <click> Just hang up on the b@stards. Best wishes, Rick.
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-12-01 08:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <523aad7390see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2784 |
In article <4ed71661$0$5687$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>, Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > For me, it would be a liability. > As long as your phone is within easy reach, you just pick > it up and... > Hello, this is SuperSaverSolicitors and we... <click> Actually, if it presents an 0844 / 0845 / 0843 number, there is a 99% chance of it being one of the host of PPI scammers. What you get is a recorded announcement, so no point in saying anything. I answer the phone by pressing the answer button and get on with my work. I may press the 5 key which transfers me to one of their 'agents' and listen to them saying 'hallo.... hallo....' -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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| From | Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2011-12-01 09:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <523ab0d34dalan_calder@o2.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #2787 |
In article <523aad7390see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> wrote: > In article > <4ed71661$0$5687$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>, Rick > Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > For me, it would be a liability. > > As long as your phone is within easy reach, you just pick > > it up and... > > Hello, this is SuperSaverSolicitors and we... <click> > Actually, if it presents an 0844 / 0845 / 0843 number, there > is a 99% chance of it being one of the host of PPI scammers. > What you get is a recorded announcement, so no point in > saying anything. I answer the phone by pressing the answer > button and get on with my work. > I may press the 5 key which transfers me to one of their > 'agents' and listen to them saying 'hallo.... hallo....' This and the SuperSaver ploy is all very well but how do you know who's calling? I thought that caller display doesn't show overseas numbers so you can't even guess from that - it might be nephew Jim calling from Oz to say he's been banged up again. Or it might be the police to say that Jim... Most of these calls I get start by asking if I am Mr Alan Calder, which is a clue, but this is the MO of 99% of cold calls anyway. I just chat to them until they get bored with my cluelessness - unless I've got something better to do of course. Or I do the counselling thing, telling them they are working for crooks and they should get a job with decent employers. Cheers Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
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| From | Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-12-01 10:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <523ab62047see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2788 |
In article <523ab0d34dalan_calder@o2.co.uk>, Alan Calder <alan_calder@o2.co.uk> wrote: > In article <523aad7390see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>, > Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> > wrote: > > In article > > <4ed71661$0$5687$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr>, Rick > > Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > For me, it would be a liability. > > > As long as your phone is within easy reach, you just > > > pick it up and... > > > Hello, this is SuperSaverSolicitors and we... > > > <click> > > Actually, if it presents an 0844 / 0845 / 0843 number, > > there is a 99% chance of it being one of the host of > > PPI scammers. What you get is a recorded announcement, > > so no point in saying anything. I answer the phone by > > pressing the answer button and get on with my work. > > I may press the 5 key which transfers me to one of > > their 'agents' and listen to them saying 'hallo.... > > hallo....' > This and the SuperSaver ploy is all very well but how do > you know who's calling? I was writing above about the PPI scammers, who always present a phone number, usually an 0844 / 0845 / 0843 number. They are delighted if you phone back because they get a percentage of your call cost. The computer virus scammers may or may not present a number. 020 3026 6482 is a common number that they present, and it is a valid number. > I thought that caller display doesn't show overseas > numbers Correct on a BT line, it will be shown on any of the mobile networks, and your number will be displayed in most other countries. It is, as I mentoned earlier, down to BT refusing to pass on CLI from outwith the UK on spurious data protection grounds. > so you can't even guess from that - it might be > nephew Jim calling from Oz to say he's been banged up > again. Or it might be the police to say that Jim... Again, exactly what I was saying about the downside of using a trueCall device... -- Russell http://www.russell-hafter-holidays.co.uk Russell Hafter Holidays E-mail to enquiries at our domain Need a hotel? <http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__blue&customerId=416873103>
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