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Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions

From Ian Collins <ian-news@this.is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.std.c++
Subject Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions
Date 2013-02-23 18:21 -0800
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christopher.dearlove@googlemail.com wrote:
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:06:37 PM UTC, Ian Collins wrote:
>>
>>   christopher.dearlove@googlemail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>   On Friday, December 14, 2012 5:19:33 PM UTC, Ian Collins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Your proposal would not improve testability, the locally private
>>>>   functions would, by virtue of their linkage, be impossible to test.
>>>
>>>   How do you test a normal private function?
>>
>>   I wouldn't.
>
>
> So your objection to the proposal is that it doesn't improve tetability,
> something which the OP didn't claim, when the current alternative is
> from your comment, untestable.


No, I was commenting on the the line directly above my reply, the line
you conveniently snipped:

[regarding approaches to implementing complex/lengthy member
functions] "Write huge, unwieldy member functions that become
incredibly difficult to validate / test / document"

One alternative, not the one I suggested which you also conveniently snipped.

> Not exactly a relevant objection.


Well the proposal aimed at avoiding something that results in hard to
test code...

>>   In most cases if a function is too large to inline, the overhead
>>   of calling is is minimal compared to the time spent in the function.
>>   The inline keyword is never more than a hint, so any warnings are
>>   probably spurious and could be suppressed.
>
>
> And another objection that isn't to anything actually said by either
> the OP or myself.


Er, over zealous snipping again, this time your own comments.

--
Ian Collins


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  Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions Francis Glassborow<francis.glassborow@btinternet.com> - 2012-12-14 09:10 -0800
  Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions Daniel Krügler<daniel.kruegler@googlemail.com> - 2012-12-14 09:11 -0800
  Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions Ian Collins<ian-news@this.is.invalid> - 2012-12-14 09:19 -0800
    Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions christopher.dearlove@googlemail.com - 2012-12-17 08:52 -0800
      Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions Ian Collins<ian-news@this.is.invalid> - 2012-12-18 16:06 -0600
        Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions christopher.dearlove@googlemail.com - 2013-02-22 10:48 -0600
          Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions ootiib@hot.ee - 2013-02-22 16:39 -0600
            Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions Jason McKesson <jmckesson@googlemail.com> - 2013-02-23 23:22 -0800
              Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions Balog Pal<pasa@lib.hu> - 2013-02-25 11:01 -0600
          Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions Ian Collins <ian-news@this.is.invalid> - 2013-02-23 18:21 -0800
            Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions christopher.dearlove@googlemail.com - 2013-02-25 10:59 -0600
    Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions Balog Pal<pasa@lib.hu> - 2013-02-25 11:01 -0600
      Re: Proposal: Compilation-unit scoped private member functions Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2013-02-28 22:16 -0800

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