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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.programming |
| Subject | Re: What I like about programming . . . |
| Date | 2023-02-08 15:50 +0000 |
| Organization | Fix this later |
| Message-ID | <ts0gci$4dtt$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <programming-20230207203300@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <5m86fnftwotm.osdsbmw7kyzs.dlg@40tude.net> <4e8eb7d5-f3b4-46af-bd39-29f048714f7bn@googlegroups.com> |
On 08/02/2023 3:03 pm, Paul N wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:58:29 PM UTC, JJ wrote:
>> If you go to any programming sub in Reddit, or any programming channel in
>> Discord, you'll realize that some people aren't capable of realizing that
>> they are wrong.
>
> This is even more obvious in comp.theory. There is a poster there who claims to have refuted the Halting Problem proof,
I refute it too. Bear with me.
> and to have a system which can accurately determine whether a program will halt or not.
I, too, have such a system. Bear with me.
> He has a demonstration program, which he claims does not halt
He is mistaken.
> and which his detector identifies as non-halting.
His detector errs.
> He does however accept that when said program is run, it halts. He can't accept that his simulation is incorrect, however, and instead argues that this is proof that a program can behave differently when it is "directed executed" from when it is "correctly simulated". He goes on to say that it is correct for his detector to determinate what will happen when the program is correctly simulated, rather than what happens when it is run, and so his detector is correct. Numerous people have pointed the problems out to him, but he keeps posting to say that no-one has ever posted a correct refutation.
Here is my refutation. Feed it with any program you like via a pipe.
#include <stdio.h>
int main(void)
{
int ch;
while((ch = getchar()) != EOF)
{
continue;
}
puts("If executed, the specified program will halt.");
return 0;
}
--
Richard Heathfield
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Re: What I like about programming . . . JJ <jj4public@outlook.com> - 2023-02-08 04:58 +0700
Re: What I like about programming . . . David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-02-08 08:59 +0100
Re: What I like about programming . . . Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2023-02-08 09:34 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . Paul N <gw7rib@aol.com> - 2023-02-08 07:03 -0800
Re: What I like about programming . . . Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2023-02-08 15:50 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-02-08 21:07 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2023-02-08 21:56 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-02-09 01:09 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2023-02-09 07:18 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-02-09 09:42 +0100
Re: What I like about programming . . . "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2023-02-09 11:17 +0100
Re: What I like about programming . . . David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-02-09 14:15 +0100
Re: What I like about programming . . . Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2023-02-09 11:41 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-02-09 14:20 +0100
Re: What I like about programming . . . Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2023-02-09 13:38 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-02-09 14:05 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2023-02-10 07:04 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-02-10 11:46 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2023-02-10 12:49 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . Y A <air000000000000@ya.ee> - 2023-02-10 06:37 -0800
Re: What I like about programming . . . Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-02-10 23:16 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2023-02-11 07:20 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-02-11 21:12 +0000
Re: What I like about programming . . . Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2023-02-11 23:05 +0000
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