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Re: Time for a new language?

From "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.misc, comp.programming
Subject Re: Time for a new language?
Date 2011-06-07 11:26 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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"tm" <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> wrote in message 
news:043628bb-8b8b-4094-8e7b-b1c61a69b525@c41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...

> I consider Seed7 higher level than Java and C++ because Seed7
> defines things in libraries that Java and C++ have hard-coded in
> their compilers.

Isn't it the other way around? If a feature exists only in a library, it 
must be defined using more primitive elements in the language.

If the feature is built into the language, then surely that makes it higher 
level?

> So I consider arrays defined with an abstract data
> type as higher level than hard-coded arrays.

Arrays are usually fairly primitive types. If a language doesn't directly 
have arrays, and they have to be constructed (by building a new data-type 
with pointers or whatever), again I don't see that as a high-level feature!

> I consider things, that everybody can define, as higher level than
> hard-coded do what I mean concepts (that only authors of compilers
> and interpreters can change).

A brick, that can be used to make anything, is higher level than a 
pre-fabricated section? I don't think so. Although certainly it is useful to 
be able to make something different..

-- 
Bartc 

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Re: Time for a new language? tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-07 01:17 -0700
  Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-07 03:07 -0700
    Re: Time for a new language? tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-07 04:21 -0700
  Re: Time for a new language? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-06-07 11:26 +0100
    Re: Time for a new language? pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2011-06-07 07:45 -0400
      Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-07 13:02 -0700
    Re: Time for a new language? tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-07 12:49 -0700
  Re: Time for a new language? gremnebulin <peterdjones@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-13 16:36 -0700
  Re: Time for a new language? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-17 10:25 +1200
    Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-16 23:11 -0700
      Re: Time for a new language? tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-17 01:39 -0700
        Re: Time for a new language? "H.J. Sander Bruggink" <sander.bruggink@uni-due.de> - 2011-06-17 11:05 +0200
          Re: Time for a new language? tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-17 02:54 -0700
        Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-17 10:55 -0700
    Re: Time for a new language? tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-17 00:55 -0700

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