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Re: Another little puzzle

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.programming
Subject Re: Another little puzzle
Date 2022-12-30 14:04 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <87o7rlhtsv.fsf@bsb.me.uk> (permalink)
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Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:

> Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> I found this problem interesting but only later in the discussion as
>> I have been using this metric for some time.  What got interesting
>> (to me) was that there is another sound interpretation of the
>> average as suggested by Tim, [...]
>
> It wasn't my idea.  I got it from a posting by Mike Terry on
> December 21.  I hadn't seen that formulation of arithmetic mean
> before and I was amazed that it worked.  So I can't really take
> any credit for the suggestion.
>
>> ironically prompted but a general definition of what might
>> constitute an average that I had posted and failed to follow
>> through on.
>
> I remember your posting as coming after the one by Mike Terry,
> and so I thought your comments were derived from his.  Sorry if
> my conclusions there were off the mark.

You are right in that MT posted the same general formulation 9 hours
before I did (though I'd not seen that).  My confusion came from your
explanation, to me, of "conventional average":

  "Sorry, I meant to refer to your formulation of average"

followed by the formula I gave rather than then entirely equivalent one
given by MT.

Anyway, the credit I'm giving is for your considering this a reasonable
thing to try calculate for arc lengths, rather than the vector average
that minimises a different measure altogether.  Maybe MT also suggested
that as an alternative but I only remember his championing the vector
interpretation.  My apologies to MT if he did that as well.

-- 
Ben.

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Re: Another little puzzle Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-12-30 01:00 +0000
  Re: Another little puzzle Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-12-29 23:25 -0800
    Re: Another little puzzle Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-12-30 14:04 +0000
      Re: Another little puzzle Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-12-31 00:24 +0000
        Re: Another little puzzle Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-12-31 06:42 -0800
          Re: Another little puzzle "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2022-12-31 17:04 +0100
            Re: Another little puzzle Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-01 01:24 +0000
            Re: Another little puzzle Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-01-08 07:45 -0800
              Re: Another little puzzle "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2023-01-08 17:17 +0100
                Re: Another little puzzle Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-08 20:41 +0000
                Re: Another little puzzle Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2023-01-08 21:14 +0000
                Re: Another little puzzle "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2023-01-08 22:31 +0100
                Re: Another little puzzle Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-09 03:25 +0000
                Re: Another little puzzle "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2023-01-09 11:22 +0100
                Re: Another little puzzle Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-09 20:37 +0000
                Re: Another little puzzle "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2023-01-10 09:06 +0100
                Re: Another little puzzle Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-11 02:41 +0000
                Re: Another little puzzle "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2023-01-11 10:01 +0100
                Re: Another little puzzle Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-12 01:00 +0000
                Re: Another little puzzle Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-01-10 23:36 -0800
                Re: Another little puzzle Y A <ya00000100000@yahoo.com> - 2023-01-11 02:39 -0800
          Re: Another little puzzle Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-01 01:10 +0000
            Re: Another little puzzle Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-01-08 07:17 -0800
              Re: Another little puzzle Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-08 19:43 +0000
                Re: Another little puzzle Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-08 19:59 +0000
                Re: Another little puzzle Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-01-10 23:25 -0800
      Re: Another little puzzle Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-12-31 06:20 -0800
        Re: Another little puzzle Augǝl <angel0000000001000000000000@mail.ee> - 2022-12-31 10:23 -0800

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