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From Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!?
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Brian Morrison <news@fenrir.org.uk> writes:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 13:44:40 -0700
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > I have no dog in this fight.  
>> 
>> That article does not suggest that a Python 4 release is likely
>> any time soon.
>
> The way I read it, it's not a no, and it's not really a yes. But python
> 3.99 could eventually happen and they may get bored with the minor
> number incrementing at some point.

My point was that "c186282" made some very specific claims:

  Frankly, Python is just generally 'better' these days.
  Maybe not AS 'concise' but more 'readable' AND easier
  to understand six months from now. The speed is now
  'adequate' and Python-4 is supposed to be even faster.

and

  The PLAN is far fewer diffs than between P2 and P3,
  just more optimization.

  I'd say expect early releases within a year.

My question is not so much "Is there going to be a Python 4?" (I
already have an adequate answer to that: it could happen some day,
but there are no plans for it), as "What exactly is c186282 talking
about, and can they support their remarkable claims?".  If c186282
doesn't reply in this thread, I'll consider that to be an answer.

I humbly suggest that anyone who wants to discuss whether
there's going to be a Python 4 start a new thread, perhaps on
comp.lang.python.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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  Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-13 23:31 -0400
    Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 02:25 -0700
      Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-15 00:58 -0400
        Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 23:04 -0700
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              Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Brian Morrison <news@fenrir.org.uk> - 2025-06-16 18:32 +0100
                Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 11:38 -0700
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          Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-17 23:38 -0400
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