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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.periphs.printers, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Several problems with HP printer. OP: FOLLOW UP |
| Date | 2025-10-27 10:45 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vir3tlxp4u.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
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On 2025-10-23 03:37, TJ wrote: > On 2025-10-21 23:34, Paul wrote: >> One of the reasons HP resorted to Wifi-only printing, was to force users >> to use a smartphone APP or the like, for setup. This would lead the user >> through an HP SMART Ink subscription (an unnecessary shipping of HP- >> branded >> inks or toners which you're billed for and show up in your post box). >> This is so hated by some customers forced into it, you can find small >> boxes of HP print materials, sitting on the top of the postal boxes, >> where the people in my community feel that by not taking the ink home, >> it somehow gets you out of your contract. >> >> The result of this slick-willy approach to doing business is: >> >> 1) You stop doing business with HP entirely, and tell them to >> shove their printers up their ass. >> >> 2) You only select printers with backup print paths. Wifi+Eth, Wifi+USB. >> >> Sure, my other-brand printer has Wifi, but it also has USB, and >> that's why I felt safe in buying it. If there is a USB port it >> means the company wants to do business the proper way, with the >> consumer in control and no arm-twisting and slick-willy crap. >> >> Paul > > The manuals for both of my Wifi-capable printers wanted me to use the > smartphone app to install them, but buried deeply into those manuals, > the last resort, was some kind of statement that you could also install > by first connecting a usb cable. > > Of course, none of the manual's methods of installation would work for > me because I'm using Linux, so I didn't really care. I simply used my > distro's printer install tool - took about five minutes for each > printer, if that. No mention of "instant Ink" subscriptions, though the > manual said they are available. With Linux, *I* am in charge. > > Why TWO printers? The printer of my old usb-only Officejet went bad, but > the scanner continued to work for three years. When the scanner finally > quit I went looking for a stand-alone scanner, but quickly found the > most economical way to buy a scanner was with a printer attached, so > that's what I did. I almost never use that as a printer, but I use the > scanner often. > > BTW, some admittedly brief web research doesn't turn up any HP printers > that are Wifi-only, that don't have a usb port. This leads me to believe > that such beasts are the exception, rather than the rule, and are > difficult to find. My Laserjet M209dw has wifi and ethernet, but no usb. I had to configure it using my phone. And I had the trouble of having to configure twice, because I needed to find the MAC address in order to associate a fixed address in the router. I use Linux, and I don't want the printer to have a different IP each week or day. In retrospect, maybe making the printer print the diagnostic or status page would print the MAC before configuration. HP makes things difficult because the printer doesn't have a display, just a big main led with several colours, and a few tiny leds and buttons. This printer came with an option for smart "toner" subscription, but it was not mandatory (EU thing?). The printer may have 3 years and is still with the original toner, I use it very little. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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