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Re: Several problems with HP printer. OP: FOLLOW UP

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.periphs.printers, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Several problems with HP printer. OP: FOLLOW UP
Date 2025-10-23 09:20 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <10dda28$1o285$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On Thu, 10/23/2025 4:43 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <10d9jbk$ci2n$1@dont-email.me>,
>>    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>>> Sure, my other-brand printer has Wifi, but it also has USB, and
>>> that's why I felt safe in buying it. If there is a USB port it
>>> means the company wants to do business the proper way, with the
>>> consumer in control and no arm-twisting and slick-willy crap.
>>
>> I have an Epson WF-7715, A3 printer scanner, this has Wi-Fi, USB and
>> ethernet, but most of my printing, B&W, is done on a Xerox B310 Laser,
>> which also has full connectivity. To me Ethernet is essential for
>> connecting to my several computers in various parts of the house. My
>> entire network is wired apart from portable devices such as phones and
>> tablets. Desktop computers don't come with Wi-Fi!
> 
>   Depends on where and what kind of 'desktop' computers you buy, but
> most consumer ready-to-use (i.e. not built/assemble) yourself) 'desktop'
> (i.e. tower, lunchbox, all-in-one. etc.) computers *do* come with Wi-Fi.
> The ones without Wi-Fi are the exception, not the rule.
> 

As a consumer, it doesn't hurt to check what a machine has.

Of three retail motherboards (mid-range price), one has a Wifi
on the I/O plate, two have no Wifi on them. It is easy to install
a PCIe x1 lane card to add Wifi to the ones that don't have it.
I have a couple TPLink cards with Intel AX200 underneath
their heatsink, as examples of devices I've used for test.
I have two PCIe ones, and two USB Wifi, for test.

*******

As an example of me forgetting to check stuff, on the
machine that has the Wifi module on the retail motherboard,
I get the thing home and discover it has no TPM header pins
for a plug-in TPM. The BIOS has the fTPM function, but
the reason that can be less-preferred is because on AMD,
there have been some "stuttering" issues related to the usage
of fTPM. Whereas the hardware plugin TPM module, does not
have that exposure on an AMD-processor board (AM4/AM5). The
Intel socket boards, I've not heard of an issue there with
fTPM versus physical plugin TPM.

What's ironic, is the BIOS on the machine with no TPM pins onboard,
says this:

     Physical TPM   <=== This is offered as a settings choice, when this is not physically possible
     fTPM
     None

And that happened, because six motherboards use the same BIOS file (generic)
and the other boards had TPM pins. If the board had the holes but no pins,
I'd just solder the pins in myself...  and test.

   Paul

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