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Re: Several problems with HP printer. OP: FOLLOW UP

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.periphs.printers, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Several problems with HP printer. OP: FOLLOW UP
Date 2025-10-27 10:54 +0100
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On 2025-10-23 20:14, knuttle wrote:
> On 10/23/2025 1:35 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>   Yes. I forgot to mention that most consumers very likely can't be
>> bothered to pull/mount LAN cables through their house. Much too awkward,
>> too much work and*why*?
> You forgot the expense of fishing the cables through the walls and 
> attic, if available.
> 
> I had new circuits installed in my house, and know the work of pulling 
> cable through the house will be several hundered dollars per cable.   I 
> had some electric lines pulled from on side of my house to the garage on 
> the other side. It was $250 per line.   The third line I planned to put 
> in was from an existing box to another about four feet up the wall on an 
> open unfinished wall. They wanted $250 for the also, I ended up doing it 
> myself.

Amazing prices.

I wired a flat in Madrid, using existing tubes designed for phone lines, 
from sitting room to three bedrooms, and another connection behind the 
sofa. I only hired the man to pull the cables, me being the other chap 
in the team (you typically need 2 people to pull-push cables). I did all 
the connections and bought the materials, so I hired a normal 
electrician that was willing, because many say they don't do computer 
cables (they don't understand them, no training).

I think I paid him about 150€.

> 
> Some years before, my brother and I pulled coax for a TV from the garage 
> to my living room.  It took the two of us working together over and hour 
> to finish the job.
> 
> I think rather than "not be bothered", a cost analysis of the 
> performance of the two techniques, would find the Cable looses by a wide 
> margin.
> 
> The cost of the cable alone, not counting labor would be several times 
> more than cost of a good wireless router, and the router would provide 
> access in nearly any part of their house, not just the point where the 
> cable comes out of the wall.

Telefónica here has an offer to wire the house using fibre to the rooms, 
but they put it externally, glued or nailed to the walls.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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