Re: VMS/XDE intro

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Le 27/11/2025 à 20:18, Simon Clubley a écrit :
> On 2025-11-26, gcalliet <gerard.calliet@pia-sofer.fr> wrote:
>>
>> The next question is a consequence. What level of opening, documenting,
>> offering access for that? It's somehow strange offering a proprietary
>> tool on Linux: cultural conflict?
>>
> 
> Hello Gerard,
> 
> Since you are clearly new with Linux, there is one "cultural conflict"
> I should make you aware of, to avoid you wasting time and frustration
> in case you come across the same issues.
> 
> Linux has, until now, used the X11 windowing system in the same way as
> other Unix systems and VMS has done.
> 
> A new windowing system, called Wayland, is being introduced to Linux
> and unfortunately the people doing this appear to have designed this
> in isolation without listening to the creators of the major applications
> running on Linux and are saying that their new way of doing things in
> Wayland is by design.
> 
> This is causing some major problems. The most high-profile one I am
> aware of is KiCad at https://www.kicad.org/ and which is a major open
> source PCB design package.
> 
> The KiCad developers have documented their problems with Wayland here:
> 
> https://www.kicad.org/blog/2025/06/KiCad-and-Wayland-Support/
> 
> Use it as a checklist in case you run into the same kinds of problems
> while using Linux. If the problems you encounter are on that list,
> then you know it is not you. :-)
> 
> Simon.
> 
Thanks a lot. Yes very new in Linux.

I have to install all the Gnat Ada stuff, and then then Gnat Ada on LLVM 
project. Because perhaps it would be a way to get Ada on VMS/x86.

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