Re: formatting to FAT32

From	Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM>
Newsgroups	comp.os.os2.misc, comp.os.os2.beta, comp.os.os2.utilities, comp.os.os2.programmer.misc
Subject	Re: formatting to FAT32
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Date	2011-04-03 22:00 +0100

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> Anyway, I did not release the 0.9.14 because it has not any 
> enhancements for end-users, but just for developers.
>

Well that's clearly wrong, given that it contains something that will, 
you tell us, make programs work for end users in this case.  (-:  Do you 
have a binary of your not-for-end-users FAT32.IFS so that the end-users 
can install it and see whether it fixes the DosSetFilePtr() problem for 
them?  I'm expecting it not to, looking at the code changes that you've 
made, to be honest.  You don't appear to have touched anything in the 
ordinary, standard, "raw" path.  But we'll only find out one way or the 
other if some of those end users actually get to test this modification.

> In addition, FAT32.IFS already has a good replacement for DASD IO.
>

To think that that's a "good replacement" is entirely muddled.  It's 
neither good nor a replacement.  We don't *want* filesystem-specific 
replacements for a standard OS/2 4.5 mechanism.  We want the 
operating-system-supplied mechanism that the 4.5 Toolkit documents to 
*work*.  As the 4.5 Toolkit doco says, there's a "new" (for 1999) 
mechanism for handily reading volumes without having to care what the 
filesystem type is or perform *any* filesystem-specific gyrations.  We 
have, the Toolkit doco tells us, "common file system APIs" that provide 
us with a "greatly simplified migration path for applications".  (And it 
*is* greatly simplified, there's no doubt about it.)  It's entirely 
backwards and muddled to work in the direction of "replacing" that with 
something that requires undocumented you-have-to-be-in-on-the-secret 
filesystem-specific gyrations.  That's not improvement.  That's going 
backwards to the situation that existed before.  Where "before" is 
"before 1999", moreover.

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Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-01 02:11 +0100
  Re: formatting to FAT32 KO Myung-Hun <komh@chollian.net> - 2011-04-01 21:56 +0900
    Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-01 19:37 +0100
      Re: formatting to FAT32 "Allan" <allan2@warpspeed.dyndns.dk> - 2011-04-02 10:21 +0200
        Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-02 15:16 +0100
          Re: formatting to FAT32 Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org> - 2011-04-02 21:49 +0000
            Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-03 02:17 +0100
              Re: formatting to FAT32 Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org> - 2011-04-03 09:17 +0000
                Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-03 19:51 +0100
          Re: formatting to FAT32 "Allan" <allan2@warpspeed.dyndns.dk> - 2011-04-03 00:12 +0200
            Re: Is JFS really open source? Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-03 01:50 +0100
              Re: Is JFS really open source? Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-03 19:32 +0100
                Re: Is JFS really open source? Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2011-04-03 14:04 -0700
                Re: Is JFS really open source? Steve Wendt <spamsux@forgetit.org> - 2011-04-03 15:51 -0700
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "Allan" <allan2@warpspeed.dyndns.dk> - 2011-04-04 01:24 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "A.D. Fundum" <what.ever@neverm.ind> - 2011-04-04 11:22 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2011-04-04 16:44 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2011-04-04 09:03 -0700
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "A.D. Fundum" <what.ever@neverm.ind> - 2011-04-05 17:15 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2011-04-05 16:29 -0700
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "A.D. Fundum" <what.ever@neverm.ind> - 2011-04-11 04:16 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2011-04-10 19:28 -0700
                Re: Is JFS really open source? what.ever@neverm.ind (A.D. Fundum) - 2011-04-11 05:06 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "A.D. Fundum" <what.ever@neverm.ind> - 2011-04-11 07:07 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "A.D. Fundum" <what.ever@neverm.ind> - 2011-04-11 07:25 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "A.D. Fundum" <what.ever@neverm.ind> - 2011-04-25 12:20 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "A.D. Fundum" <what.ever@neverm.ind> - 2011-04-11 02:34 +0200
              Re: Is JFS really open source? "Alex Taylor" <mail.me@reply.to.address> - 2011-04-04 09:51 -0500
                Re: Is JFS really open source? Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-05 19:51 +0100
                Re: Is JFS really open source? Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2011-04-05 16:34 -0700
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "Andy" <nospam-abwillis1-nopspam@nospam-gmail.com> - 2011-04-06 01:05 +0000
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "Alex Taylor" <mail.me@reply.to.address> - 2011-04-08 04:24 -0500
                Re: Is JFS really open source? Paul Ratcliffe <abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> - 2011-04-08 11:49 +0000
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "Alex Taylor" <mail.me@reply.to.address> - 2011-04-10 01:26 -0500
                Re: Is JFS really open source? Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-08 21:03 +0100
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "Alex Taylor" <mail.me@reply.to.address> - 2011-04-10 01:25 -0500
                Re: Is JFS really open source? Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2011-04-10 00:42 -0700
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "Allan" <allan2@warpspeed.dyndns.dk> - 2011-04-10 21:31 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "A.D. Fundum" <what.ever@neverm.ind> - 2011-04-10 23:37 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "A.D. Fundum" <what.ever@neverm.ind> - 2011-04-10 11:37 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "A.D. Fundum" <what.ever@neverm.ind> - 2011-04-10 22:42 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "A.D. Fundum" <what.ever@neverm.ind> - 2011-04-11 00:21 +0200
                Re: Is JFS really open source? "A.D. Fundum" <what.ever@neverm.ind> - 2011-04-11 01:15 +0200
          Re: Does JFS work on OS/2 version 4.0 and earlier? Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-03 22:29 +0100
            Re: Does JFS work on OS/2 version 4.0 and earlier? "Allan" <allan2@warpspeed.dyndns.dk> - 2011-04-04 01:31 +0200
              Re: Does JFS work on OS/2 version 4.0 and earlier? Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-04 11:31 +0100
          Re: formatting to FAT32 Lars Erdmann <lars.erdmann@arcor.de> - 2011-04-04 20:57 +0200
            Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-05 15:09 +0100
              Re: formatting to FAT32 Lars Erdmann <lars.erdmann@arcor.de> - 2011-04-06 08:07 +0200
      Re: formatting to FAT32 KO Myung-Hun <komh@chollian.net> - 2011-04-02 22:13 +0900
        Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-02 18:59 +0100
          Re: formatting to FAT32 KO Myung-Hun <komh@chollian.net> - 2011-04-03 14:51 +0900
            Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-03 22:00 +0100
              Re: formatting to FAT32 KO Myung-Hun <komh@chollian.net> - 2011-04-04 22:19 +0900
                Re: formatting to FAT32 "A.D. Fundum" <what.ever@neverm.ind> - 2011-04-04 16:51 +0200
                Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-06 18:20 +0100
                Re: formatting to FAT32 KO Myung-Hun <komh@chollian.net> - 2011-04-14 22:38 +0900
            Re: formatting to FAT32 "Andy" <nospam-abwillis1-nopspam@nospam-gmail.com> - 2011-04-05 15:42 +0000
              Re: formatting to FAT32 "Allan" <allan2@warpspeed.dyndns.dk> - 2011-04-05 20:08 +0200
                Re: formatting to FAT32 "Andy" <nospam-abwillis1-nopspam@nospam-gmail.com> - 2011-04-05 22:49 +0000
                Re: formatting to FAT32 "Allan" <allan2@warpspeed.dyndns.dk> - 2011-04-06 01:23 +0200
                Re: formatting to FAT32 "Andy" <nospam-abwillis1-nopspam@nospam-gmail.com> - 2011-04-06 01:10 +0000
                Re: formatting to FAT32 KO Myung-Hun <komh@chollian.net> - 2011-04-06 21:49 +0900
                Re: formatting to FAT32 "Andy" <nospam-abwillis1-nopspam@nospam-gmail.com> - 2011-04-06 14:34 +0000
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        Re: formatting to FAT32 Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org> - 2011-04-02 22:00 +0000
          Re: formatting to FAT32 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2011-04-03 02:32 +0100
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