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Re: Best DOS assembler?

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On Aug 24, 1:06 am, Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Aug 15, 9:37 pm, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Does anyone want to cast his vote for best DOS assembler? What was your
> > favorite assembler back in the day (not including modern assemblers that
> > will run on DOS like NASM/FASM etc.)
>
> Well, keep in mind that "modern" is an overloaded word, esp. regarding
> software. Also, NASM has existed since a long time (early '90s). FASM
> similarly has existed since 1999. Most people (used to) love MASM 5
> (1987?) or 6 (1992?) the most or even TASM 4 (?) or 5.3 (2000). But
> A86/A386 4.05 (2000) and Optasm (?) had a fair amount of users too.
> (Debug doesn't count, obviously, not even for non-MS DOSes that
> supported more than 8086.)
>
> Most favorites:   NASM, FASM
> Least favorites:  GAS (AT&T), TASM (Ideal), MASM (v6)
>
> Basically I started learning x86 assembly around 1996 (80xxx, hi Ed!),
> and I used Arrowsoft Assembler 2.00c (aka, MASM 4) and NASM 0.94
> (macros!). Later I (also) used A86, FASM, YASM, and more or less
> bounced around at random using others for fun (Octasm, whee!).
>
> The golden standard in olden times always seemed to be MASM
> "compatible", but MASM-only (or TASM-only) code also existed in tons
> of places, which was (and still is) very annoying. Truly, these days
> (even for "old" DOS stuff, heh) I prefer NASM or FASM. But JWasm has a
> lot going for it, esp. for legacy code. Too bad I never learned all
> that fancy HLL crap (structs!) that various people loved to (over)use.
>
> BTW, I never messed much with NoMySo, probably should've tried it, but
> usually things like that never helped with translating legacy code. I
> still have a few things I want to convert one of these days.

A somewhat related question.
What is the best way to use an 8086 Assembler on Windows 7 (64Bit).
MASM 5.0 requires a XP virtual box.   is there a simple way to
assemble small amounts of code directly in a Windows 7 window.

I just cannot seem to get Visual Studio (8) to run with MASM either

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Best DOS assembler? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-08-15 15:37 +0200
  Re: Best DOS assembler? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-08-19 12:49 +0200
    Re: Best DOS assembler? Jim Leonard <mobygamer@gmail.com> - 2011-08-19 07:40 -0700
    Re: Best DOS assembler? "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-19 19:14 -0400
      Re: Best DOS assembler? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-08-21 01:03 +0200
      Re: Best DOS assembler? ak621@chebucto.ns.ca (Richard Bonner) - 2011-08-30 13:27 +0000
        Re: Best DOS assembler? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201108.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-08-31 05:25 +0200
          Re: Best DOS assembler? ak621@chebucto.ns.ca (Richard Bonner) - 2011-09-04 13:00 +0000
      Re: Best DOS assembler? James Harris <james.harris.1@googlemail.com> - 2011-09-03 13:09 -0700
        Re: Best DOS assembler? "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-09-04 06:44 -0400
          Re: Best DOS assembler? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201109.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-09-05 02:44 +0200
  Re: Best DOS assembler? Rugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com> - 2011-08-24 01:06 -0700
    Re: Best DOS assembler? monahanz <monahan@vitasoft.org> - 2011-09-01 00:20 -0700
      Re: Best DOS assembler? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-09-01 12:24 -0400
        Re: Best DOS assembler? monahanz <monahan@vitasoft.org> - 2011-09-01 10:41 -0700
          Re: Best DOS assembler? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-09-01 14:40 -0400
            Re: Best DOS assembler? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201109.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-09-02 07:11 +0200
              Re: Best DOS assembler? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-09-02 11:09 -0400
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201109.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-09-05 02:06 +0200
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-09-05 14:57 -0400
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201109.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-09-06 03:01 +0200
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-09-06 10:28 -0400
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-09-08 06:37 +0200
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-09-09 11:47 -0400
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201109.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-09-10 23:19 +0200
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-09-10 20:09 -0400
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-09-11 10:48 +0200
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-09-11 12:18 -0400
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201109.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-09-12 01:31 +0200
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-09-12 11:30 -0400
            Re: Best DOS assembler? ak621@chebucto.ns.ca (Richard Bonner) - 2011-09-04 13:02 +0000
              Re: Best DOS assembler? Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2011-09-04 10:01 -0400
        Re: Best DOS assembler? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-09-01 22:46 +0200
      Re: Best DOS assembler? Rugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 16:07 -0700
        Re: Best DOS assembler? monahanz <monahan@vitasoft.org> - 2011-09-01 21:56 -0700
          Re: Best DOS assembler? Rugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 16:19 -0700
          Re: Best DOS assembler? "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-09-02 20:23 -0400
          Re: Best DOS assembler? "s_dubrovich@yahoo.com" <s_dubrovich@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-03 07:08 -0700
            Re: Best DOS assembler? monahanz <monahan@vitasoft.org> - 2011-09-03 10:12 -0700
              Re: Best DOS assembler? Rugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com> - 2011-09-03 11:42 -0700
                Re: Best DOS assembler? monahanz <monahan@vitasoft.org> - 2011-09-03 22:21 -0700
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Rugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com> - 2011-09-04 22:43 -0700
              Re: Best DOS assembler? "s_dubrovich@yahoo.com" <s_dubrovich@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-03 13:11 -0700
                Re: Best DOS assembler? Rugxulo <rugxulo@gmail.com> - 2011-09-04 09:13 -0700
                Re: Best DOS assembler? "s_dubrovich@yahoo.com" <s_dubrovich@yahoo.com> - 2011-09-05 05:37 -0700
                Re: Best DOS assembler? ak621@chebucto.ns.ca (Richard Bonner) - 2011-09-17 10:40 +0000
          Re: Best DOS assembler? ak621@chebucto.ns.ca (Richard Bonner) - 2011-09-04 13:06 +0000

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