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Re: Windows 32-bit

From Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.ms-windows.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-xp, alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Subject Re: Windows 32-bit
Date 2023-11-19 21:22 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <ujdub1$3v97r$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 19/11/2023 19:21, Paul wrote:
> On 11/19/2023 11:57 AM, Java Jive wrote:
>> On 19/11/2023 08:17, Paul wrote:
>>>
>>> I discovered, while trying to figure out a solution for you, that archive.org
>>> seems to have placed a 2GB file limit on downloads. If I try to download
>>> a virtual machine file which is archived on the site (some of those are 5GB),
>>> the download stops at 2GB. I tried about three different files, and the
>>> response was the same. I used aria2c downloader (which has restart capability),
>>> and if you try to restart a download at the 2GB mark, archive.org refuses to
>>> respond.
>>
>> I always hesitate to disagree with you, Paul, but IME today the above is NOT true.  I set the download service on my QNAP NAS to download ...
>>
>>      https://archive.org/download/digital_river/x17-58996.iso
>>
>> ... and it downloaded successfully.  In particular, I watched it roll over the 2GB downloaded mark with no perceptible glitch, the resulting file size is the advertised 2.39 GB, the ISO opens successfully in 7-zip, and its SHA1 agrees with that given for it on the parent directory/page.
>>
>> I think you must have a different problem somewhere?
> 
> I have a theory.
> 
> It's possible that archive.org , archived some of the downloads
> when the Microsoft servers had the "download bug". There was a
> period of time, where Microsoft servers were truncating downloads.
> A symptom, is both parties to the download are satisfied the download
> is complete. But the file can be short, by up to a gigabyte.
> 
> I've just started downloading a digitalriver sample, like yourself,
> and when I get back, we'll see whether this one is "regular size".
> 
> The damage then, could actually be recorded on the server that way.
> 
> If you believe the left column is size-in-bytes here, then this
> list is anomalous as well, and may be stored (incorrectly) on the
> server like that. Maybe these weren't DigitalRiver, but were
> TechBench or similar. The collection may be "digital_river", but
> that does not mean Archive.org crawled digitalriver.com itself. Some
> user uploaded these as far as I know.
> 
> https://ia801300.us.archive.org/30/items/digital_river/xxx17index_file.txt

Yes, agreed so far ...

The number against the file I downloaded successfully  -  which, I 
forgot to mention, is the one the OP would need to create a 32-bit W7 VM 
from scratch: Windows 7 Home Premium x86 English SP1  -  is 
2,147,483,647, which is one byte less than 2 GB = 2,147,483,648, whereas 
the actual file size should be 2.38 GB = 2,564,476,928 (I misread it 
when I quoted 2.39 GB earlier)

> So rather than a protocol error, the content on the server may
> simply be damaged, and I've misinterpreted this as a protocol problem.

No, I don't think so, because what is supposedly the size is wrong for 
the file I downloaded, yet I was able to download it in full, so either:

1)  The index has the wrong sizes;

... and ...

2)  SOME of the files, but fortunately not the one the OP would need, 
were uploaded incorrectly, and truncated thereby;

... and these two things happened more or less independently of each 
other, because my test earlier showed that there isn't a one-for-one 
correspondence between the supposed incorrect sizes in the index and 
whether the file downloads correctly, or ...

3)  You have some other problem.

To move this forward, perhaps if you give here some of the exact links 
you tried to download, I and others could try downloading them to see if 
we get the same results?

-- 

Fake news kills!

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