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Re: Windows 32-bit

From "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
Newsgroups comp.os.ms-windows.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-xp, alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Subject Re: Windows 32-bit
Date 2023-12-31 19:15 +0000
Organization 255 software
Message-ID <3dz8IOFR3bklFwYY@255soft.uk> (permalink)
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In message <ums57t$1pjk8$1@dont-email.me> at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 11:35:08, 
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes
>On 12/31/2023 7:37 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>
>> Maybe it was 486DX as Tim says. I had _thought_ the '387 was the 
>>co-processor for that series.
>>
>> I'm not sure when they started to drop the "80" from (e. g.) 80386. I 
>>know they started using names around the time of the '586, alias 
>>Pentium, because someone in charge of the administration of trademarks 
>>said, basically, no more trademarking just numbers. (It wasn't just 
>>Intel - other manufacturers had to invent names too; I remember one 
>>chip called "roboclock"; I think it was Maxim or IDT.) Presumably 
>>that's why things moved to Pentium II, etc., rather than 686.
>
>It's possible for a company to continue using its old
>numbering scheme, for labeling at chip level.
>
>Here, the lucky 8 is still in usage, for a part of it. Southbridges.
>These chips did not typically need heatsinks, so you could spot
>a part number like this on your Pentium 4 motherboard.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%2FO_Controller_Hub

Wow, that's an amazing resource!
>
>   82801ER (ICH5R) RAID
>
>*******
>
>Someone has saved the musty old books. Good on 'em.
[]
>I used to collect those, early on, but later it did not
>align with what I was doing.
>
>Once the industry became more adept at using PDF, the
>fascination with catalogs disappeared. We actually had
>several very large rooms, with all those databooks collected
>in them. But that library was too far from me, to be
>of any practical use.
>
>I still have a databook from 1972 here. The sentimental
>aspect was, as a kid, I wrote a letter to Fairchild, asking
>them if I could have a databook. And they actually sent
>me a databook! Surprised the hell out of me. I think it
>cost them $4.00 in postage to send that. That was the 7400
>series of TTL or so. I still have a few bins of the critters.

I used to collect the TTL books - had quite a large collection of them, 
and knowledge of the numbering too. I only got round to throwing them 
out about a year ago - I kept the earliest, as I'd actually bought it 
(most of the others I'd got from work, either "acquired" or rescued when 
being thrown out), and _one or two_ others (and wallcharts).

>A number of the companies from that era, did not survive.
>Texas Instruments is still around.

Initially I associate it with National (Semiconductor) - blue books, and 
Texas Instruments (yellow or orange). Mullard the 11000 (centre power) 
series, IDT the clever ones and also low-power-but-still-fast ACT 
competitors to CMOS 4000 (which use a _lot_ less power and could be run 
on a wide range of voltages, but weren't much for speed). Ah, happy 
times ... oh, and - I forget who did them - somebody did single gates, 
so you didn't have to have the four (etc.) you got in a 7400.
>
>   Paul
John
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Can a blue man sing the whites?

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