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  Whatever happened to the Secondary Selection? Charles Lindsey <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk> - 2016-08-20 21:01 +0000
    Re:Whatever happened to the Secondary Selection? dlbendigo  <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> - 2016-09-17 18:10 +1000
      Re:Whatever happened to the Secondary Selection? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2016-09-17 10:40 -0400
        Re: Whatever happened to the Secondary Selection? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-09-18 11:14 +0000
        Re:Whatever happened to the Secondary Selection? Charles Lindsey <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk> - 2016-09-27 20:11 +0000

#242 — Whatever happened to the Secondary Selection?

For over 20 years, I have been using the secondary-selection (a standard 
feature of the X-Windows system) when editing texts, using the Solaris 
operating system on Sun Hardware. Recently, I have switched to Linux on 
i86 hardware, and have been horrified to find that this valuable feature 
is not supported by modern toolkits and editors. The world seems to have 
forgotten what it was meant for, and yet I believe it is the best thing 
since sliced bread.

This is not the place to explain what the secondary-selection does, and 
why it should be used more widely. To see that, I invite you to visit my 
website at
    http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl/secondary-selection.html
which I hope will persuade you that something needs to be done about it.

However, the purpose of this message is to introduce my Experimental 
Extension to GTK-3 so that you guys can try it out for yourselves and to 
see how useful it can be for constructing texts (and particularly program 
texts, where there is a common requirement to grab existing bits of code 
- perhaps even just identifiers - from other places, whether in the same 
document or from outside).

My implementation is based on gtk+-3.10.8, because I am using Ubuntu 
14.04LTS "Trusty Tahr", though it may well work on other Linux versions. 
Yes I know 3.10.8 is ancient, but I don't expect my code, which is pretty 
hairy, to be fit for immediate incorporation in current versions of gtk. 
But it now works well enough for it to be tested more widely, and if you 
and other people like it, then I would be happy to join the GTK Developer 
Team and to do the job properly.

So please look at my website, download my code, give it a try and report 
your experiences here. (Note, followups set to comp.os.linux.x).

-- 
Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing ------------------
Tel: +44 161 436 6131                    Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl
Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk      Snail: 5  SK8 3JU, U.K.
PGP: 2C15F1A9 Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5

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#243

Charles Lindsey <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk> Wrote in message:
> For over 20 years, I have been using the secondary-selection (a standard 
> feature of the X-Windows system) when editing texts, using the Solaris 
> operating system on Sun Hardware. Recently, I have switched to Linux on 
> i86 hardware.

It seems that you are the only one to  think it has value.  There
 are two 
buffers already  How many do you need?
-- 

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#244

On Saturday September 17 2016 04:10, in comp.os.linux.x, "dlbendigo"
<laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

> Charles Lindsey <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk> Wrote in message:
>> For over 20 years, I have been using the secondary-selection (a standard
>> feature of the X-Windows system) when editing texts, using the Solaris
>> operating system on Sun Hardware. Recently, I have switched to Linux on
>> i86 hardware.
> 
> It seems that you are the only one to  think it has value.

No, Charles is /not/ the only one to think that secondary-selection has value.

And, who are /you/ to say that secondary-selection has no value?



-- 
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills, We Trust"
PGP public key available upon request

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#245

In article <nrjkl7$slm$1@dont-email.me>,
Lew Pitcher  <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:
>On Saturday September 17 2016 04:10, in comp.os.linux.x, "dlbendigo"
><laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Charles Lindsey <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk> Wrote in message:
>>> For over 20 years, I have been using the secondary-selection (a standard
>>> feature of the X-Windows system) when editing texts, using the Solaris
>>> operating system on Sun Hardware. Recently, I have switched to Linux on
>>> i86 hardware.
>> 
>> It seems that you are the only one to  think it has value.
>
>No, Charles is /not/ the only one to think that secondary-selection has value.

So there are two of you?

>And, who are /you/ to say that secondary-selection has no value?

Where did he say that?

-- 
(Cruz certainly has an odd face) ... it looks like someone sewed pieces of a
waterlogged Reagan mask together at gunpoint ...

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-america-made-donald-trump-unstoppable-20160224

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#248

On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 10:40:45 -0400, Lew Pitcher wrote:

> On Saturday September 17 2016 04:10, in comp.os.linux.x, "dlbendigo"
> <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
> 
>> Charles Lindsey <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk> Wrote in message:
>>> For over 20 years, I have been using the secondary-selection (a
>>> standard feature of the X-Windows system) when editing texts, using
>>> the Solaris operating system on Sun Hardware. Recently, I have
>>> switched to Linux on i86 hardware.
>> 
>> It seems that you are the only one to  think it has value.
> 
> No, Charles is /not/ the only one to think that secondary-selection has
> value.

Well I'm glad to hear that, but I wish those others would speak up. My 
implementation has been downloaded 11 times now, but I have heard no 
feedback from anyone who has tried to use it. The only proof of the 
pudding is in the eating, so will someone please try it and report here 
that they do (or do not) like it.

So far, we just have people saying "nobody ever uses it, so it must be 
useless", which is a non-sequitur.


-- 
Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing ------------------
Tel: +44 161 436 6131                    Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl
Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk      Snail: 5  SK8 3JU, U.K.
PGP: 2C15F1A9 Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5

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