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| Started by | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2021-09-27 07:52 -0500 |
| Last post | 2021-09-28 05:21 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 303 — 19 participants |
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Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 07:52 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-09-27 13:18 +0000
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 08:32 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 09:40 -0400
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 15:01 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 11:17 -0400
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:55 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 14:57 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-09-27 07:36 -0700
Re: Linux Crashing "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-09-27 20:42 +0200
Re: Linux Crashing Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-09-27 12:59 -0700
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:49 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 14:20 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 08:24 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 14:49 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 09:09 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-27 20:21 -0600
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 23:30 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 13:01 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 11:34 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 19:31 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 15:55 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 21:53 -0600
Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 04:08 +0000
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 22:54 -0600
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 01:59 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 06:31 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 14:13 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:15 -0600
Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:34 +0100
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 21:10 -0600
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 23:16 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 08:20 -0600
BigTech, BigMedia & BigGovernment. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 07:38 -0700
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:33 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:35 -0600
Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 13:13 -0500
Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:26 +0000
I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 06:36 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 08:23 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-30 09:33 -0500
Dilbert.COM Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 07:47 -0700
Re: Dilbert.COM RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-30 11:21 -0400
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:40 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-01 06:19 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 12:51 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 08:05 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:18 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:20 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 02:24 +0000
I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-01 09:46 -0700
Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:19 +0000
Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:11 -0600
Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:26 +0100
Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 10:54 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 15:32 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 15:51 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-01 22:06 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 16:28 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 21:09 -0600
## is a godsend. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-01 21:29 -0700
Re: ## is a godsend. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 01:52 -0700
Re: ## is a godsend. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 10:56 +0000
"z1.CPP" ain't no "Dilbert.COM".OopsOops Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 08:57 -0700
Re: ## is a godsend. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 12:59 -0700
Re: ## is a godsend. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:31 -0600
Improving "z1.CPP" is a pure joy. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 11:24 -0700
Re: ## is a godsend. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
Re: ## is a godsend. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:35 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:15 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 11:11 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 16:43 +0000
"Dilbert.COM" has to be "readable". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 09:48 -0700
Re: "Dilbert.COM" has to be "readable". rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:21 -0600
How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 11:40 -0700
Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 00:44 +0100
Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 01:42 -0500
Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:36 +0000
The Covid cult liberated me from my shackles. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 09:18 -0700
Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:32 +0000
Re: "Dilbert.COM" has to be "readable". Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 14:56 -0400
My code was forked. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 12:03 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:18 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 00:46 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 21:34 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:28 +0000
No one here cares about what my code actually *does*. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 20:27 -0700
Re: No one here cares about what my code actually *does*. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 10:40 +0100
One huge routine. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 09:17 -0700
Re: One huge routine. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 16:45 +0000
Max sucks dicks. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 10:04 -0700
Re: Max sucks dicks. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:27 +0000
Re: One huge routine. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:27 -0600
Re: One huge routine. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:30 +0000
Re: One huge routine. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 15:30 -0500
Macros & Muscle Memory keep it simple. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 13:47 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-01 16:15 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 16:55 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:00 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 13:04 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:43 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 21:35 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 08:09 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 12:42 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 21:15 -0600
Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-01 21:36 -0700
Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 05:04 +0000
Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-02 06:44 -0500
Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:05 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:03 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:07 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 08:56 +0100
"Permies" aren't script kiddies. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 09:10 -0700
Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:29 +0100
People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 09:40 -0700
Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 16:45 +0000
Cheating. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 09:55 -0700
Re: Cheating. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-02 13:30 -0500
Your "Up" is my "Down". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 11:45 -0700
Re: Cheating. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-02 15:32 -0400
Re: Cheating. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-02 14:43 -0500
Me, my daughter, and my son. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 13:07 -0700
Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 16:50 -0500
Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-02 16:51 -0500
Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2021-10-02 15:29 -0700
Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:36 +0000
Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-02 22:17 -0400
Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 03:26 +0100
My kids were born blonde and blue-eyed. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 13:03 -0700
Re: My kids were born blonde and blue-eyed. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:34 +0000
I was blonde, when younger. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 20:21 -0700
Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:50 +0000
Re: I was blonde, when younger. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:16 -0500
Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:34 +0000
Re: I was blonde, when younger. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:04 -0500
Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:11 +0000
Re: I was blonde, when younger. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:31 -0500
Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:53 +0000
Re: I was blonde, when younger. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:42 -0500
Tell me you don't like "Former U.S.S.R." girls of Nordic origin ! Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 12:08 -0700
Re: Tell me you don't like "Former U.S.S.R." girls of Nordic origin ! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 19:10 -0500
Re: Cheating. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:25 +0000
I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 20:14 -0700
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 23:26 -0500
Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 21:45 -0700
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:51 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:18 -0500
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:35 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:10 -0500
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:13 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-10-03 19:52 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:03 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-10-03 20:18 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:32 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-10-03 20:39 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Helmut Achterberg <"Helmut Achterberg"@localonly.com> - 2021-10-03 21:21 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:48 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:46 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-03 19:53 -0400
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:33 -0500
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:54 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 01:05 -0500
Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 09:09 -0700
Re: Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 12:18 -0600
Seattle's not big on tolerance. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 11:38 -0700
Re: Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:18 +0000
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 12:03 -0600
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 21:46 -0500
Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:55 -0600
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:50 +0100
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:55 +0000
TFZ is better then Face-To-Face sex. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 09:41 -0700
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 19:01 -0500
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:49 +0000
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:15 -0500
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:34 +0000
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:01 -0500
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:10 +0000
Life is everything, yet nothing. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 12:17 -0700
Re: Life is everything, yet nothing. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:00 +0000
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:30 -0500
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:52 +0000
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:56 +0100
Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:14 -0500
Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:33 -0500
The loans-to-deposits ratio is insane, nothing a banker would want. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-03 11:56 -0700
Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:55 -0600
Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:35 -0600
My work got done joyously. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 11:28 -0700
Re: My work got done joyously. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:31 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:44 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:50 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:55 -0600
Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-10-02 12:15 -0700
Re: Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:33 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 17:35 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 22:08 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 00:12 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:47 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:49 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 20:02 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:47 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 23:50 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:54 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 00:08 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 05:12 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 01:51 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 06:56 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:28 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 20:18 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:59 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:15 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:37 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 18:58 -0500
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:26 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:57 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:19 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-01 19:22 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:37 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:16 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:44 +0100
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:49 -0600
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 09:38 -0500
10 instances of my "C/C++ console" running simultaneously. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 07:51 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:08 -0500
Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 08:03 -0700
Re: Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:14 -0500
4Re: 1I 5think 2in 5FORTH 1& 7progr 2in 6C/C++ Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2021-09-30 08:12 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:25 +0000
FORTH, C & C++, in that order, have advantages. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-09-30 16:16 -0700
Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 21:18 -0600
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| From | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2021-10-03 00:12 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sjbe4h$6c6$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #4644 |
On 10/2/2021 11:08 PM, rbowman wrote: > On 10/02/2021 04:35 PM, Clutterfreak wrote: >> And among all those various forms of loops themselves, I always stick to >> the "for" loop. I don't remember needing to use any other forms of >> looping in C++. But they're always there in programming books of any >> program, I don't know why. > > do/while is handy if you want the block to execute at least once as > opposed to a while loop. for loops are fine if you're iterating something. > > Then there's the Javascript forEach... I recently had an situation > where in TypeScript where with a for loop cat = cats[i] wouldn't pick up > the cat structure but cats.forEach(cat => would. The catch is when you > find the Siamese cat you can't break out of the loop, you have to > iterate every damn cat. Or you can throw an exception but that's > considered in poor taste. > > > > There's not a repetition that a do/while or a while loop can perform that cannot be performed by a for loop as efficiently and as clearly. I've not, in my life, used any loop that had a "while" in it in any of the few languages that I programmed with. I only see the word "while" in programming books and hear it others mentioning it. So it is not needed. It is just another alternator doing what alternators do. You want the block execute at least once? Make a tiny little adjustment to your for loop! Hehe :) Who was keeping you from it that they had to create a whole different design to exactly do the same thing and add it to all the programming books in the world for us to see? Who needed it that bad? Who needs about 700 different programming languages? 2000 different same size same specs alternators in cars? It's a syndrome. Because there's a problem here. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-10-03 11:47 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sjc1oi$ll5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4650 |
On 03/10/2021 06:12, Clutterfreak wrote:
> There's not a repetition that a do/while or a while loop can perform
> that cannot be performed by a for loop as efficiently and as clearly.
> I've not, in my life, used any loop that had a "while" in it in any of
> the few languages that I programmed with. I only see the word "while" in
> programming books and hear it others mentioning it. So it is not needed.
> It is just another alternator doing what alternators do.
although you are true - and after all what is a loop vot a condiional
and an unconditional jump. it is a lot clear to me to ahvve
while(data=get_data())
{
process_data(data);
}
for(;data=get_data();)
process_data(data);
Really a for statement require a start point and an iteration update. If
there really isn't either handy its a bit crap;
I use whatever looks neatest and whatever I understand best.
Its a bit like saying that a case statement can be done with
if-then-else if, or a conditonal assignment be done with an if-else.
The compiler will end up producing the same code most likely, so the
only issue is speed of coding and readability.
Occasionally when I am coding code that no one else will ever see, I may
use something very terse and rather obscure.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2021-10-03 11:49 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <iru8pkFrs6pU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #4650 |
On 10/02/2021 11:12 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>
> There's not a repetition that a do/while or a while loop can perform
> that cannot be performed by a for loop as efficiently and as clearly.
> I've not, in my life, used any loop that had a "while" in it in any of
> the few languages that I programmed with. I only see the word "while" in
> programming books and hear it others mentioning it. So it is not needed.
> It is just another alternator doing what alternators do.
for (; test; ) {
....
test = pigsFly();
}
static int pigsFly(void) {
return 0;
}
Congratulations! You've created a while loop assuming test is true at
the onset. When you only have a hammer...
Sooner or later it comes down to
JZ get_me_out_of_here
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| From | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2021-10-03 20:02 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sjdjq9$r2s$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #4683 |
On 10/3/2021 12:49 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On 10/02/2021 11:12 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>>
>> There's not a repetition that a do/while or a while loop can perform
>> that cannot be performed by a for loop as efficiently and as clearly.
>> I've not, in my life, used any loop that had a "while" in it in any of
>> the few languages that I programmed with. I only see the word "while" in
>> programming books and hear it others mentioning it. So it is not needed.
>> It is just another alternator doing what alternators do.
>
> for (; test; ) {
> ....
> test = pigsFly();
> }
>
> static int pigsFly(void) {
> return 0;
> }
>
>
> Congratulations! You've created a while loop assuming test is true at
> the onset. When you only have a hammer...
>
> Sooner or later it comes down to
>
> JZ get_me_out_of_here
>
Why would you want to use a for loop when you want block only to run once?
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2021-10-03 19:47 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <irv4orF2cv6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #4711 |
On 10/03/2021 07:02 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 10/3/2021 12:49 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On 10/02/2021 11:12 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>>>
>>> There's not a repetition that a do/while or a while loop can perform
>>> that cannot be performed by a for loop as efficiently and as clearly.
>>> I've not, in my life, used any loop that had a "while" in it in any of
>>> the few languages that I programmed with. I only see the word "while" in
>>> programming books and hear it others mentioning it. So it is not needed.
>>> It is just another alternator doing what alternators do.
>>
>> for (; test; ) {
>> ....
>> test = pigsFly();
>> }
>>
>> static int pigsFly(void) {
>> return 0;
>> }
>>
>>
>> Congratulations! You've created a while loop assuming test is true at
>> the onset. When you only have a hammer...
>>
>> Sooner or later it comes down to
>>
>> JZ get_me_out_of_here
>>
>
>
> Why would you want to use a for loop when you want block only to run once?
>
The ... ellipses assumed several complex blocks, one path of one which
included questioning if pigs can fly and there was no iteration such as
for (i=0; i<=number_of_pigs; i++) {
if (!can_pig_n_fly(i) break;
}
int can_pig_n_fly(int i) {
if (moon_is_blue && i == 13) return 0;
return 1;
}
I'm not arguing that you can't create the equivalent of a while loop
with a for loop or that you can't use a screwdriver as a chisel.
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| From | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2021-10-03 23:50 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sje167$vjk$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #4713 |
On 10/3/2021 8:47 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On 10/03/2021 07:02 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>> On 10/3/2021 12:49 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>> On 10/02/2021 11:12 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There's not a repetition that a do/while or a while loop can perform
>>>> that cannot be performed by a for loop as efficiently and as clearly.
>>>> I've not, in my life, used any loop that had a "while" in it in any of
>>>> the few languages that I programmed with. I only see the word
>>>> "while" in
>>>> programming books and hear it others mentioning it. So it is not
>>>> needed.
>>>> It is just another alternator doing what alternators do.
>>>
>>> for (; test; ) {
>>> ....
>>> test = pigsFly();
>>> }
>>>
>>> static int pigsFly(void) {
>>> return 0;
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>> Congratulations! You've created a while loop assuming test is true at
>>> the onset. When you only have a hammer...
>>>
>>> Sooner or later it comes down to
>>>
>>> JZ get_me_out_of_here
>>>
>>
>>
>> Why would you want to use a for loop when you want block only to run
>> once?
>>
>
> The ... ellipses assumed several complex blocks, one path of one which
> included questioning if pigs can fly and there was no iteration such as
>
> for (i=0; i<=number_of_pigs; i++) {
> if (!can_pig_n_fly(i) break;
> }
>
> int can_pig_n_fly(int i) {
> if (moon_is_blue && i == 13) return 0;
> return 1;
> }
>
>
> I'm not arguing that you can't create the equivalent of a while loop
> with a for loop or that you can't use a screwdriver as a chisel.
>
What value is assigned to number_of_pigs ?
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2021-10-04 07:54 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <is0fdbFa6sdU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #4719 |
On 10/03/2021 10:50 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 10/3/2021 8:47 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On 10/03/2021 07:02 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>>> On 10/3/2021 12:49 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On 10/02/2021 11:12 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There's not a repetition that a do/while or a while loop can perform
>>>>> that cannot be performed by a for loop as efficiently and as clearly.
>>>>> I've not, in my life, used any loop that had a "while" in it in any of
>>>>> the few languages that I programmed with. I only see the word
>>>>> "while" in
>>>>> programming books and hear it others mentioning it. So it is not
>>>>> needed.
>>>>> It is just another alternator doing what alternators do.
>>>>
>>>> for (; test; ) {
>>>> ....
>>>> test = pigsFly();
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> static int pigsFly(void) {
>>>> return 0;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Congratulations! You've created a while loop assuming test is true at
>>>> the onset. When you only have a hammer...
>>>>
>>>> Sooner or later it comes down to
>>>>
>>>> JZ get_me_out_of_here
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why would you want to use a for loop when you want block only to run
>>> once?
>>>
>>
>> The ... ellipses assumed several complex blocks, one path of one which
>> included questioning if pigs can fly and there was no iteration such as
>>
>> for (i=0; i<=number_of_pigs; i++) {
>> if (!can_pig_n_fly(i) break;
>> }
>>
>> int can_pig_n_fly(int i) {
>> if (moon_is_blue && i == 13) return 0;
>> return 1;
>> }
>>
>>
>> I'm not arguing that you can't create the equivalent of a while loop
>> with a for loop or that you can't use a screwdriver as a chisel.
>>
>
> What value is assigned to number_of_pigs ?
>
>
That was determined three functions ago and passed as a parameter.
We have a programmer that pronounces parameter as para meter. 20 years
ago he may not have known the standard pronunciation; now I think he
does it because it sets one of the manager's teeth on edge.
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| From | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2021-10-04 00:08 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sje27t$9s$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #4713 |
On 10/3/2021 8:47 PM, rbowman wrote: > I'm not arguing that you can't create the equivalent of a while loop > with a for loop or that you can't use a screwdriver as a chisel. My point is that "for loop" is a screwdriver of length 9.0 inches and the other two "while things" are screwdrivers of 9.00001 inches and 9.00002 inches respectively :) I don't see them as one being a screwdriver and the other a chisel at all. All three are _practically_ EXACTLY the same screwdriver. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2021-10-04 05:12 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <_2w6J.38725$GD7.28148@fx23.iad> |
| In reply to | #4723 |
On 2021-10-04, Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10/3/2021 8:47 PM, rbowman wrote: >> I'm not arguing that you can't create the equivalent of a while loop >> with a for loop or that you can't use a screwdriver as a chisel. > > > My point is that "for loop" is a screwdriver of length 9.0 inches and > the other two "while things" are screwdrivers of 9.00001 inches and > 9.00002 inches respectively :) > > I don't see them as one being a screwdriver and the other a chisel at > all. All three are _practically_ EXACTLY the same screwdriver. > Rust and Swift use for loop in terms of counting loop, while while loop for rest of cases ... -- 7-77-777 Evil Sinner! to weak you should be meek, and you should brainfuck stronger https://github.com/rofl0r/chaos-pp
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| From | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2021-10-04 01:51 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sje88r$25e$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #4724 |
On 10/4/2021 12:12 AM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
> On 2021-10-04, Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 10/3/2021 8:47 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>> I'm not arguing that you can't create the equivalent of a while loop
>>> with a for loop or that you can't use a screwdriver as a chisel.
>>
>>
>> My point is that "for loop" is a screwdriver of length 9.0 inches and
>> the other two "while things" are screwdrivers of 9.00001 inches and
>> 9.00002 inches respectively :)
>>
>> I don't see them as one being a screwdriver and the other a chisel at
>> all. All three are _practically_ EXACTLY the same screwdriver.
>>
> Rust and Swift use for loop in terms of counting loop, while
> while loop for rest of cases ...
>
For loop is of course slightly easier to use when the maximum number of
iterations is known in advance. As long as the test expression is
boolian true it keeps repeating. So you are free to arrange your
condition in any manner you deem necessary without modifying the counter
variable inside the block.
This is the form of for loop that is identical to a while loop:
int i=1
for (;i<=someValue;)
{
....
i++;
}
It even looks like a while loop :) But certainly works like a while loop
including the fact that in this form of for loop scope of the counter
isn't limited to the for loop block (in standard form of for loop
counter value only exists inside for loop block).
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| From | Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-04 06:56 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <tAx6J.125669$z%4.43292@fx37.iad> |
| In reply to | #4725 |
On 2021-10-04, Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is the form of for loop that is identical to a while loop:
>
> int i=1
> for (;i<=someValue;)
> {
> ....
> i++;
>
> }
>
> It even looks like a while loop :) But certainly works like a while loop
> including the fact that in this form of for loop scope of the counter
> isn't limited to the for loop block (in standard form of for loop
> counter value only exists inside for loop block).
>
Problem with C for loop is that it is really while loop, while you
don't have real counting (range based) for loop :P
>
>
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| From | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-04 13:28 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sjfh45$c4a$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #4726 |
On 10/4/2021 1:56 AM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
> On 2021-10-04, Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is the form of for loop that is identical to a while loop:
>>
>> int i=1
>> for (;i<=someValue;)
>> {
>> ....
>> i++;
>>
>> }
>>
>> It even looks like a while loop :) But certainly works like a while loop
>> including the fact that in this form of for loop scope of the counter
>> isn't limited to the for loop block (in standard form of for loop
>> counter value only exists inside for loop block).
>>
>
> Problem with C for loop is that it is really while loop, while you
> don't have real counting (range based) for loop :P
>>
>>
>
>
for loop does do while also easily. Pick your choice. My choice is using
standard for loop with a short if statement added at the bottom of the
block with a break. It's a do while loop now! It'll run at least once.
Cut the fucking acrobatics short. Be scientists not "engineers." :-)
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| From | Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-04 20:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <CkJ6J.102849$g81.62916@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #4733 |
On 2021-10-04, Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/4/2021 1:56 AM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
>> On 2021-10-04, Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This is the form of for loop that is identical to a while loop:
>>>
>>> int i=1
>>> for (;i<=someValue;)
>>> {
>>> ....
>>> i++;
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>> It even looks like a while loop :) But certainly works like a while loop
>>> including the fact that in this form of for loop scope of the counter
>>> isn't limited to the for loop block (in standard form of for loop
>>> counter value only exists inside for loop block).
>>>
>>
>> Problem with C for loop is that it is really while loop, while you
>> don't have real counting (range based) for loop :P
>>>
PEACE&LOVE to to EVERYONE!
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> for loop does do while also easily. Pick your choice. My choice is using
> standard for loop with a short if statement added at the bottom of the
> block with a break. It's a do while loop now! It'll run at least once.
>
> Cut the fucking acrobatics short. Be scientists not "engineers." :-)
>
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-04 07:59 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <is0fmvFa8j2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #4723 |
On 10/03/2021 11:08 PM, Clutterfreak wrote: > On 10/3/2021 8:47 PM, rbowman wrote: >> I'm not arguing that you can't create the equivalent of a while loop >> with a for loop or that you can't use a screwdriver as a chisel. > > > My point is that "for loop" is a screwdriver of length 9.0 inches and > the other two "while things" are screwdrivers of 9.00001 inches and > 9.00002 inches respectively :) > > I don't see them as one being a screwdriver and the other a chisel at > all. All three are _practically_ EXACTLY the same screwdriver. > Whatever... A guy I've worked with for over 20 years would write for( i=1; i<10; i++ ) which I think is a perverted use of white space but so it goes. fwiw if I'm working on someone else's code I try to maintain the overall style, camel case, underbars, whatever. I do balk at misspellings though.
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| From | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-04 13:15 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sjfgch$bjg$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #4728 |
On 10/4/2021 8:59 AM, rbowman wrote: > A guy I've worked with for over 20 years would write > > for( i=1; i<10; i++ ) > > which I think is a perverted use of white space 100% of loops in programs I wrote at work for others used just one form of the loop. In VBA I used only For Next loops. Never looked at three or so other forms and never needed to. The secretary who was to use them just needed to learn For Next loops for looping. She was picked from many! She was brilliant, it turned out (among other fantastic features). I asked the Chinese manager how the hell he'd found that jewel. In his peculiar Chinese accent and manner he smirked and said all he needed was to see them perform a vlookup on Excel. The one who knew what she was doing was chosen :-) Those damn Chinese are like physicists. They always seek the simplest way. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-01 20:37 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <irpuuoF2ielU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #4545 |
On 10/01/2021 02:32 PM, Clutterfreak wrote: > On 9/30/2021 9:40 PM, rbowman wrote: >> On 09/30/2021 08:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>> rbowman wrote: >>> >>>> Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think in FORTH & program in C/C++; >>>>> naturally, people freak out when they see my source code. >>>> >>>> I can believe that... Reverse Polish Notation with Hungarian notation >>>> would be more cryptic than something was AES 256 encoding. >>> >>> Have you seen Relf's code? It's intentionally cryptic. It's >>> horrible. >>> >> >> I've seen enough terrible things in my life... We had a programmer >> that fell in love with macros. There really wasn't any code there >> until you ran it through a compiler. >> >> I think it was Ritchie who said that allowing macros in the language >> was one of his worst mistakes. It was such an innocent little idea... > > > I did VBA programming for about two years using Excel to handle and > solve warehouse problems. I don't know if the "macro" you mentioned > means same thing as a macro in Excel VBA, but every now and then I put > that feature into pretty nice use. When things would get too complicated > to automate, I'd just do them live manually with macro recording on, > then would study the funky codes that were generated. I always found in > them nice good clues as how to handle those situations, and created > fully structured and high quality additions to my programs with comments > and all. Not quite the same, I don't think but I don't know Excel. Supercalc was bundled on the Osborne and I never figured out how to use it. Still haven't figured out it's descendants. I've come to loathe Excel though. Too many people use it as a set of expandable pigeonholes as documentation that has nothing to do with the original intent.
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| From | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-02 18:58 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <sjarmi$tb2$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #4556 |
On 10/1/2021 9:37 PM, rbowman wrote: > On 10/01/2021 02:32 PM, Clutterfreak wrote: >> On 9/30/2021 9:40 PM, rbowman wrote: >>> On 09/30/2021 08:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>> rbowman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think in FORTH & program in C/C++; >>>>>> naturally, people freak out when they see my source code. >>>>> >>>>> I can believe that... Reverse Polish Notation with Hungarian notation >>>>> would be more cryptic than something was AES 256 encoding. >>>> >>>> Have you seen Relf's code? It's intentionally cryptic. It's >>>> horrible. >>>> >>> >>> I've seen enough terrible things in my life... We had a programmer >>> that fell in love with macros. There really wasn't any code there >>> until you ran it through a compiler. >>> >>> I think it was Ritchie who said that allowing macros in the language >>> was one of his worst mistakes. It was such an innocent little idea... >> >> >> I did VBA programming for about two years using Excel to handle and >> solve warehouse problems. I don't know if the "macro" you mentioned >> means same thing as a macro in Excel VBA, but every now and then I put >> that feature into pretty nice use. When things would get too complicated >> to automate, I'd just do them live manually with macro recording on, >> then would study the funky codes that were generated. I always found in >> them nice good clues as how to handle those situations, and created >> fully structured and high quality additions to my programs with comments >> and all. > > Not quite the same, I don't think but I don't know Excel. Supercalc was > bundled on the Osborne and I never figured out how to use it. Still > haven't figured out it's descendants. > > I've come to loathe Excel though. Too many people use it as a set of > expandable pigeonholes as documentation that has nothing to do with the > original intent. > > > The only reason I learned Excel was that we had to teach it in high school :) Even their math exercises included a lot of Excel use. I just blamed it on the times and followed the current. But it is a useful general purpose tool for general people. For somewhat more demanding purposes like some of the inventory control needs one can automate a lot of stuff with its VBA. Excel itself is written in VBA. For much more involved inventory control, Excel begins to be deficient and much more than just a VBA programmer is needed to code that in VBA. Companies don't do that. They go for SAP where it has combined solving complicated physics problems with much more mundane programming to generate any report you need no matter how involved. SAP is the best in the world for that reason. But this fucking Chinese company would not take advantage of that. They were paranoid about SAP's state of the art features and had disabled it to near death. So they looked at my background and asked _me_ to write those difficult ones in VBA for them! Let me give you an example: There's a flow of parts to and from a warehouse of course. Each part has a lifetime (goes unreliable after certain period of time sitting in the warehouse), a frequency of use (how often it leaves the warehouse), the volume each occupies, a weight (determining which racks and how high they should be stored), a value (determining where in the warehouse it is stored - a caged and locked area or in general area), an ETA (estimated time of arrival after ordered from suppliers), how often it gets lost or stolen (i.e. how often you need to count them and where they're stored), and so on and so on. Now company has suffered great losses and lost great customers, and their warehouses have limits in capacity, so it is in dire need of knowing exactly when to order what part and in what quantities to cut all that losses to an absolute minimum, so they wouldn't face a situation where needed part is ordered but is "in transit", and never have to give the parts to salvage companies because they're old, or they go to pick it up from location and nothing is there (had not been cycle counted with enough frequency) etc, and etc. And we're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars here. Each minute counts. Each second is gold. This is the gist of just _one_ of the problems that any warehouse in the world has. The solution for it goes beyond abilities of just a programmer. You actually need physicists to do it. Even "Engineers" will fuck it up for you topped with a confident smile. And it won't be about a war that's being fought so you'd take them to a wall and shoot them for their incompetence and fraudulent claims causing you grief. So companies buy SAP licenses with such features added and turned on in them, and get same results without hiring a physicist for their warehouses! They do the logical thing to do. Doing it with "Excel" is ridiculous. It can be done, I did it and made a lot of money doing it. But that was not the right thing to do cause it was already done perfectly well in SAP. For some reason obscure to me, they just had to do the whole thing independent of their database system in China. Each warehouse did it locally and flow of information was always one-way. From company to their database. Never the opposite. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> |
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| Date | 2021-09-30 18:26 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <7jn5J.85965$Dr.53608@fx40.iad> |
| In reply to | #4510 |
On 2021-09-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On 09/30/2021 07:36 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >> I think in FORTH & program in C/C++; >> naturally, people freak out when they see my source code. >> > > I can believe that... Reverse Polish Notation with Hungarian notation > would be more cryptic than something was AES 256 encoding. > TRick is that everything is clear! 5 dup swap over rot ... -- 7-77-777 Evil Sinner!
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2021-09-30 20:57 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <irnbojFhshlU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #4523 |
On 09/30/2021 12:26 PM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote: > On 2021-09-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> On 09/30/2021 07:36 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>> I think in FORTH & program in C/C++; >>> naturally, people freak out when they see my source code. >>> >> >> I can believe that... Reverse Polish Notation with Hungarian notation >> would be more cryptic than something was AES 256 encoding. >> > TRick is that everything is clear! > 5 dup swap over rot ... > https://www.tinaja.com/glib/postflut.pdf Don Lancaster wrote a number of books like the 'TTL Cookbook' and had his fingers into a number of projects. His weakness was PostScript. PostScript is in truth a programming language that is stack based and uses reverse Polish notation like FORTH. When Lancaster got through with it it also became a NC machine control language.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. |
| Message-ID | <0NH5J.151943$Kv2.40402@fx47.iad> |
| In reply to | #4523 |
On 2021-09-30, Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> wrote: > On 2021-09-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> On 09/30/2021 07:36 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >> >>> I think in FORTH & program in C/C++; >>> naturally, people freak out when they see my source code. >> >> I can believe that... Reverse Polish Notation with Hungarian notation >> would be more cryptic than something was AES 256 encoding. > > TRick is that everything is clear! > 5 dup swap over rot ... Forth love if honk then -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Life is perverse. \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | It can be beautiful - X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | but it won't. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Lily Tomlin
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