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| Message-ID | <62c8c0b6@news.ausics.net> (permalink) |
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
| Subject | Re: Linux on a small memory PC |
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.setup |
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| Date | 2022-07-09 09:41 +1000 |
| Organization | Ausics - https://www.ausics.net |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 08/07/2022 00:15, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >> In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> On 07/07/2022 12:49, Joerg Lorenz wrote: >>>> Xfce would have been even lighter on the machine. >>>> >>> Please. >>> >>> I am sick to death at hearing how this or that window manager would have >>> used a megabyte of RAM less. >> >> Your main complaint was about boot time, that's one of the things >> that slows up boot time. If you were interested you'd try a >> lightweight WM yourself and see how less processing required for >> window/menu operations makes performance after start-up seem better >> as well. >> > No, what slows up boot time is disk IO. And to a lesser extent CPU power. A circular argument if ever I saw one. Were those not limiting factors, the WM in use would indeed not matter. As it is, it's data to be read off disk and code to be processed, more = longer boot time. >>> The task was to take a now dead child's machine and make it fit for a >>> new purpose. Mostly as a word processor. >>> >>> To that end, as I may have to support it, my choice was for the distro I >>> am most familiar with. Not because am a genius for using it, but because >>> around ten years ago it happened to be the first satisfactory debian >>> based distro I stumbled on. Why Debian? People I knew were developing >>> and supporting it. >> >> So the topic is "Mint on a small memory PC", not Linux, because >> that's all you're looking at. >> > > Mint *is* linux. oh dear. The 'argumentum ad semanticum'. No Mint is not Linux. Linux is the core OS component of Mint, upon which all sorts of other software (Systemd/init-something, WM, X/Wayland, ALSA+PulseAudio, CUPS, etc. etc. etc.) is layered atop in order to create a distro which in Mint's case is _not_ primarily designed for running optimally on low-spec computers. As such the performance of Mint on that computer is primarily a comment on the design of Mint itself rather than anything to do with the Linux kernel. That same Linux kernel is used in other distros who'se developers do target low-spec computers, so only after looking at a few good examples of those can your comments apply to Linux overall. > Not only is it linux, its extremely representative of all the sorts of > desktop linices that one would want to install to upgrade old hardware. On that point we're just in disagreement - I'd never install Mint on old hardware and I don't see it as remotely representative of distros targeting old computers. Unless 'old' just means anything not still on sale, which isn't my interpretation. Mint 20 doesn't even support 32bit processors. In fact: "What are the system requirements to run Linux Mint? * 2GB RAM (4GB recommended for a comfortable usage)." https://linuxmint.com/faq.php Most good distros designed for low-spec computers have much lower official minimum RAM specs. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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Linux on a small memory PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-07 11:20 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> - 2022-07-07 12:47 +0200
Re: Linux on a small memory PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-07 12:00 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-07-07 10:52 -0400
Re: Linux on a small memory PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-07 16:52 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2022-07-07 11:50 -0500
Re: Linux on a small memory PC Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-07-07 14:51 -0400
Re: Linux on a small memory PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-07 22:07 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-08 09:50 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-08 10:12 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-08 09:48 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-07-08 14:04 -0400
Re: Linux on a small memory PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-08 19:35 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-07-08 15:54 -0400
Re: Linux on a small memory PC Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2022-07-08 10:27 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-18 23:59 -0400
Re: Linux on a small memory PC Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-07-07 13:49 +0200
Re: Linux on a small memory PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-07 14:00 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-07-07 11:12 -0400
Re: Linux on a small memory PC not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2022-07-08 09:15 +1000
Re: Linux on a small memory PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-08 09:56 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2022-07-09 09:41 +1000
Re: Linux on a small memory PC "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-09 01:30 -0400
Re: Linux on a small memory PC Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2022-07-09 09:09 +0200
Re: Linux on a small memory PC "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-09 11:42 -0400
Re: Linux on a small memory PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-09 10:00 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-09 11:54 -0400
Re: Linux on a small memory PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-09 17:12 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-10 00:41 -0400
Re: Linux on a small memory PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-10 10:58 +0100
Re: Linux on a small memory PC Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2022-07-08 01:50 +0000
Re: Linux on a small memory PC "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-07 21:57 -0400
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Re: Linux on a small memory PC Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2022-07-08 23:05 +0000
Re: Linux on a small memory PC "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-07 21:15 -0400
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