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  Linux screensaver Hul Tytus <ht@panix.com> - 2020-06-11 20:24 +0000
    Re: Linux screensaver John McCue <jmccue@jmclin1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> - 2020-06-12 00:00 +0000
    Re: Linux screensaver dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2020-06-12 04:20 +0200
      Re: Linux screensaver Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-06-11 21:06 -0700
        Re: Linux screensaver Rathbone <please@replytolist.com> - 2020-06-12 04:34 +0000
    Re: Linux screensaver The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-06-12 08:05 +0100
    Re: Linux screensaver Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-06-15 08:58 -0400
      Re: Linux screensaver The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-06-15 14:16 +0100
      Re: Linux screensaver Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2020-06-15 09:38 -0500
      Re: Linux screensaver gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-06-15 14:38 +0000
        Re: Linux screensaver The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-06-15 16:37 +0100
        Re: Linux screensaver Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-06-16 06:02 -0400

#30036 — Linux screensaver

	Ubuntu doesn't have a screensaver and installing one is apparantly
possible but generally discouraged. Anyone know of a Linux that has a 
useable screensaver? 

Hul

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#30041

Hul Tytus <ht@panix.com> wrote:
> 
>         Ubuntu doesn't have a screensaver and installing one is apparantly
> possible but generally discouraged.

Really, that seems very strange to me.

> Anyone know of a Linux that has a useable screensaver? 

Slackware - has a couple to pick from, they come with
            the distro, no need to install one.  It has
            xscreensaver, xlockmore and what ever comes
            with KDE.

Others ? I would think just about any distro will have
         one, but you may have to install it via their
         package tools.
> 
> Hul

John

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#30043

On 6/11/20 10:24 PM, Hul Tytus wrote:

> 	Ubuntu doesn't have a screensaver and installing one is apparantly
> possible but generally discouraged. Anyone know of a Linux that has a
> useable screensaver?
> 
> Hul
> 

Discouraged, why?
Most distros should have xscreensaver, Slackware has.
http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver

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#30044

On 6/11/20 7:20 PM, dillinger wrote:
> On 6/11/20 10:24 PM, Hul Tytus wrote:
> 
>>     Ubuntu doesn't have a screensaver and installing one is apparantly
>> possible but generally discouraged. Anyone know of a Linux that has a
>> useable screensaver?
>>
>> Hul
>>
> 
> Discouraged, why?
> Most distros should have xscreensaver, Slackware has.
> http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver

	But those other distributions are not from Canonical
which has all the answers and keeps the user away from the
system as much as possible. Ubuntu does not like the user
to do things they discourage.

	bliss

-- 
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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#30045

On 2020-06-12, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 6/11/20 7:20 PM, dillinger wrote:
>> On 6/11/20 10:24 PM, Hul Tytus wrote:
>> 
>>>     Ubuntu doesn't have a screensaver and installing one is apparantly
>>> possible but generally discouraged. Anyone know of a Linux that has a
>>> useable screensaver?
>>>
>>> Hul
>>>
>> 
>> Discouraged, why?
>> Most distros should have xscreensaver, Slackware has.
>> http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver
>
> 	But those other distributions are not from Canonical
> which has all the answers and keeps the user away from the
> system as much as possible. Ubuntu does not like the user
> to do things they discourage.

Fair enough - I'm a Slackware user myself. But for the benefit of OP,
s/he should be aware that the Ubuntu repos are MASSIVE, and surely
xscreensaver can be installed quite easily. It'd probably just be a
matter of running:

	apt install xscreensaver

as root.

I haven't used GNOME in many years, so I don't know if it plays well
with xscreensaver or not. I would recommend XFce as a DE that works
really well with xscreensaver.

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#30047

On 11/06/2020 21:24, Hul Tytus wrote:
> 	Ubuntu doesn't have a screensaver and installing one is apparantly
> possible but generally discouraged. Anyone know of a Linux that has a
> useable screensaver?
> 
> Hul
> 
Mint does - ubuntu with an XP face


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time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic 
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally 
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for 
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the 
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

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#30080

On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 20:24:59 +0000 (UTC), Hul Tytus wrote:
>
> 	Ubuntu doesn't have a screensaver and installing one is apparantly
> possible but generally discouraged. Anyone know of a Linux that has a 
> useable screensaver? 

Ubuntu is based on Debian. Running Gnome on Debian here and it appears to
have a screensaver.

Then, why would anyone want a screensaver these days? Fear something
burns into your LED display? ;-)
-- 
Andreas

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#30081

On 15/06/2020 13:58, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 20:24:59 +0000 (UTC), Hul Tytus wrote:
>>
>> 	Ubuntu doesn't have a screensaver and installing one is apparantly
>> possible but generally discouraged. Anyone know of a Linux that has a
>> useable screensaver?
> 
> Ubuntu is based on Debian. Running Gnome on Debian here and it appears to
> have a screensaver.
> 
> Then, why would anyone want a screensaver these days? Fear something
> burns into your LED display? ;-)
> 
maybe he doesn't use LEDS.
Actually LEDS do show screenburn. Just not very much

https://www.samsung.com/levant/support/tv-audio-video/are-led-tvs-subject-to-burn-in/

-- 
Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich 
people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason 
they are poor.

Peter Thompson

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#30082

At Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:58:45 -0400 Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:

> 
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 20:24:59 +0000 (UTC), Hul Tytus wrote:
> >
> > 	Ubuntu doesn't have a screensaver and installing one is apparantly
> > possible but generally discouraged. Anyone know of a Linux that has a 
> > useable screensaver? 
> 
> Ubuntu is based on Debian. Running Gnome on Debian here and it appears to
> have a screensaver.
> 
> Then, why would anyone want a screensaver these days? Fear something
> burns into your LED display? ;-)

I think the OP really wants a "Lock Screen" program and I think Ubuntu by 
default uses just a clock display for that and the OP wants something "more 
interesting" than that.


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#30083

In article <87366wcwoq.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>,
Andreas Kohlbach  <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 20:24:59 +0000 (UTC), Hul Tytus wrote:
>>
>> 	Ubuntu doesn't have a screensaver and installing one is apparantly
>> possible but generally discouraged. Anyone know of a Linux that has a 
>> useable screensaver? 
>
>Ubuntu is based on Debian. Running Gnome on Debian here and it appears to
>have a screensaver.

Emphasis on the word "appears".  I know what I am about to say will sound
weird and/or like I don't know what I'm talking about, but facts are facts.
The fact is that the screensaver on Ubuntu "sorta/seems" to work, but
doesn't really work.  And OP is correct that this is sorta "by design"; for
some reason, the Ubuntu folks don't like the concept of screensaving.

Furthermore, when you install xscreensaver, it "sorta" works - what I've
noticed is that it (the background/daemon process) runs for a while and
then dies.  So, you realize after a few days that the screensaver is not
"kicking in" when it should be doing so.  Inspection shows that the daemon
is not running.

I have fixed/kludged around this by running a shell script that just keeps
running xscreensaver (the background/daemon process) over and over.  The
script logs when it is restarted.  I have not detected any pattern there.

>Then, why would anyone want a screensaver these days? Fear something
>burns into your LED display? ;-)

Because it is more attractive then the "real" screen.  Also, there is a
security aspect to it; you don't want casual passersby to see your actual
work screen (obviously, this is just a casual type thing - don't bother
writing to say that it is not "real" security; we all know that).

-- 
Reading any post by Fred Hodgin, you're always faced with the choice of:
    lunatic, moron, or troll.

I always try to be generous and give benefit of the doubt, by assuming troll.

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#30085

On 15/06/2020 15:38, Kenny McCormack wrote:
> In article <87366wcwoq.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>,
> Andreas Kohlbach  <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 20:24:59 +0000 (UTC), Hul Tytus wrote:
>>>
>>> 	Ubuntu doesn't have a screensaver and installing one is apparantly
>>> possible but generally discouraged. Anyone know of a Linux that has a
>>> useable screensaver?
>>
>> Ubuntu is based on Debian. Running Gnome on Debian here and it appears to
>> have a screensaver.
> 
> Emphasis on the word "appears".  I know what I am about to say will sound
> weird and/or like I don't know what I'm talking about, but facts are facts.
> The fact is that the screensaver on Ubuntu "sorta/seems" to work, but
> doesn't really work.  And OP is correct that this is sorta "by design"; for
> some reason, the Ubuntu folks don't like the concept of screensaving.
> 
> Furthermore, when you install xscreensaver, it "sorta" works - what I've
> noticed is that it (the background/daemon process) runs for a while and
> then dies.  So, you realize after a few days that the screensaver is not
> "kicking in" when it should be doing so.  Inspection shows that the daemon
> is not running.
> 
> I have fixed/kludged around this by running a shell script that just keeps
> running xscreensaver (the background/daemon process) over and over.  The
> script logs when it is restarted.  I have not detected any pattern there.
> 
>> Then, why would anyone want a screensaver these days? Fear something
>> burns into your LED display? ;-)
> 
> Because it is more attractive then the "real" screen.  Also, there is a
> security aspect to it; you don't want casual passersby to see your actual
> work screen (obviously, this is just a casual type thing - don't bother
> writing to say that it is not "real" security; we all know that).
> 
I haven't tested Mint MATE extensively - I just blank the screen on 
idle- but it seems reliable at that.


-- 
All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that 
all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is 
fully understood.

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#30104

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 14:38:31 -0000 (UTC), Kenny McCormack wrote:
>
> In article <87366wcwoq.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>,
> Andreas Kohlbach  <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 20:24:59 +0000 (UTC), Hul Tytus wrote:
>>>
>>> 	Ubuntu doesn't have a screensaver and installing one is apparantly
>>> possible but generally discouraged. Anyone know of a Linux that has a 
>>> useable screensaver? 
>>
>>Ubuntu is based on Debian. Running Gnome on Debian here and it appears to
>>have a screensaver.
>
> Emphasis on the word "appears".  I know what I am about to say will sound
> weird and/or like I don't know what I'm talking about, but facts are facts.
> The fact is that the screensaver on Ubuntu "sorta/seems" to work, but
> doesn't really work.  And OP is correct that this is sorta "by design"; for
> some reason, the Ubuntu folks don't like the concept of screensaving.

Haven't used Ubuntu for a while. Debian on Gnome does have this clock
screensaver. When in a mall to grab a coffee I lock the screen and this
screensaver comes up for a moment before blanking (suspending) the screen.

[...]

>>Then, why would anyone want a screensaver these days? Fear something
>>burns into your LED display? ;-)
>
> Because it is more attractive then the "real" screen.  Also, there is a
> security aspect to it; you don't want casual passersby to see your actual
> work screen (obviously, this is just a casual type thing - don't bother
> writing to say that it is not "real" security; we all know that).

Yes. But sometimes I fire up the MAME emulator, running Scramble or other
80s games in attract mode. Some people are looking. And I had two
conversations with those what it is and helped them to get the emulator
running on their own PC. :-)
-- 
Andreas

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