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| Started by | Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> |
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| First post | 2025-10-07 16:07 +0300 |
| Last post | 2025-10-12 12:10 +0100 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 349 — 21 participants |
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Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-07 14:39 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-07 22:52 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-08 01:35 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-08 10:53 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-08 21:06 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:25 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:45 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:41 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 09:21 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 13:21 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:15 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:53 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:46 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:38 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 02:09 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-09 18:52 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:33 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-11 15:10 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 17:48 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:01 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:08 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:32 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:29 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-12 11:07 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-13 09:06 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-18 16:24 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-18 21:02 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-19 01:36 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:39 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-20 02:10 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:36 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:33 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:31 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:21 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-19 12:17 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:22 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:28 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:19 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-20 09:20 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-25 12:49 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 16:45 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:51 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 08:42 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 09:11 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 10:06 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:25 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:48 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:29 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:44 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 00:57 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 07:14 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:05 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 02:00 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:02 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:03 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 21:19 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:50 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 14:52 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:06 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 20:29 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:22 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:17 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:09 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:23 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:47 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:27 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:05 +0000
Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:46 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:47 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 20:21 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:46 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:41 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:07 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 22:15 +0000
Re: Accents. Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-10-30 17:29 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 17:31 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:14 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:11 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:10 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:35 +0100
Re: Accents. candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-30 21:40 +0000
Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 15:18 -0700
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:17 +0000
Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:46 -0700
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:25 +0000
LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:38 +0100
Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 20:50 -0400
Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:14 +0000
Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:41 +0100
Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:57 +0000
Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 00:12 +0000
Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:38 +0100
Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 00:19 -0500
Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 07:03 +0000
Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 14:20 -0500
Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:02 +0000
Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:42 +0000
Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:31 -0500
Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:16 +0000
Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:51 +0000
Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:48 +0100
Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:42 +0000
Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:33 +0100
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:21 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:59 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:41 +0100
Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 08:56 -0700
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:53 +0000
Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-31 19:02 -0700
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 02:52 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:32 +0000
Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:19 +0000
TV tropes (was: Re: Accents.) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:01 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 13:10 +0100
Re: TV tropes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 21:28 +0100
Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:10 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:14 +0100
Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:09 +0000
Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 07:41 +0000
Re: TV tropes Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-21 09:00 +0000
Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 09:13 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:17 +0100
Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 19:28 +0000
Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:43 +0100
Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:00 +0000
Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-22 04:06 +0000
Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:24 +0100
Re: Not Blade Runner Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:57 +0000
Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:22 +0100
Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:22 +0000
Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:50 +0100
Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:20 +0000
Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:34 +0100
Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:47 +0000
Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:05 +0100
Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
Re: Blade runner c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 15:40 -0500
Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 22:30 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 17:48 -0500
Re: Flashlights Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-11-03 20:26 -0800
Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-04 04:55 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:35 -0500
Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-05 03:44 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 01:05 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:20 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:08 -0500
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:33 +0000
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:37 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:26 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 11:56 +0100
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:42 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:30 -0500
Re: Flashlights candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-11-07 16:20 +0000
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-07 18:11 +0000
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-07 18:50 +0000
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 22:42 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-07 21:08 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:31 +0100
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-08 16:05 +0000
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-08 20:06 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:04 -0500
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-09 20:08 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:41 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:07 +0000
Re: Flashlights John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2025-11-09 19:05 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:58 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:12 -0500
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 05:09 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 01:31 -0500
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:39 +0000
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 07:51 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:19 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:55 +0000
Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:16 +0000
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:39 +0100
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 22:54 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:52 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:32 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 06:49 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-22 03:14 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 11:32 +0000
Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 22:00 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 02:35 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:40 +0000
Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 20:15 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:10 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 01:42 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:09 +0100
Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:17 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:19 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 21:58 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:28 +0100
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:15 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:27 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 19:37 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:12 -0500
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:22 -0500
Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-04 20:52 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:23 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:23 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:10 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:05 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:21 -0500
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:54 -0500
Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:20 +0000
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:52 +0000
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:17 -0500
Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-05 11:54 +0000
Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:41 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:16 -0500
Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 22:22 +0000
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:41 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:10 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:24 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 02:44 +0100
Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 21:53 -0500
Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:12 +0100
Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 23:14 +0100
Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:01 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:19 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:33 +0000
Blade runner. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:29 +0100
Re: Blade runner. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:56 +0000
Re: Blade runner. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:38 -0400
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:31 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:48 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:22 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:33 +0100
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:20 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 23:36 +0100
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:51 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:48 +0100
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 15:03 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:15 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:39 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:26 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:44 +0100
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:05 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:54 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:15 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:02 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:10 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:49 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:13 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 18:48 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:12 +0000
Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:28 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:11 +0100
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 12:26 +0000
Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 09:17 -0800
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:42 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:01 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:33 +0000
Re: Accents. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:43 -0700
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:21 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:47 +0000
Re: Accents. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:48 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:58 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:25 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:09 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:29 +0000
Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:50 -0700
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:28 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:29 +0000
Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:27 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:41 +0000
Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:54 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:34 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:26 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 03:36 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:31 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 01:33 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:52 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:48 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-12 02:43 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:12 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:02 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 06:39 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-12 02:59 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:20 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-13 16:50 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 18:38 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:38 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:45 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:17 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 03:28 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:41 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:20 +0100
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-13 11:55 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 21:56 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 00:35 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:21 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 06:56 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 17:20 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:01 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 05:36 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:33 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:18 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:24 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:31 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 09:00 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:24 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 15:11 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:27 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:22 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:24 -0400
Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:08 +0200
Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:15 -0400
Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:46 +0200
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-16 04:36 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 10:29 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:49 -0400
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 15:43 -0700
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-14 21:30 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-14 22:11 +0000
Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:10 +0100
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| From | Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 17:29 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Accents. |
| Message-ID | <slrn10g783u.25jj.trepidation@vps.jonz.net> |
| In reply to | #76810 |
On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 18:47:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > I find myself turning on subtitles (when available) more and more even > for supposedly English speakers. +1 For several reasons -- but the major reason is because of the loud'ish, gratuitous music that is played over the dialogue.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 17:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Accents. |
| Message-ID | <10e07d4$3rnka$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76829 |
On 30/10/2025 17:29, Allodoxaphobia wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 18:47:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >> I find myself turning on subtitles (when available) more and more even >> for supposedly English speakers. > > +1 > For several reasons -- but the major reason is because of the loud'ish, > gratuitous music that is played over the dialogue. > > inter-modulating in your ear with the speech... Deafness isn't just about frequency response and gain -- How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. Adolf Hitler
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Accents. |
| Message-ID | <72PMQ.933571$p8E9.628414@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #76830 |
On 2025-10-30, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 30/10/2025 17:29, Allodoxaphobia wrote: > >> On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 18:47:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> I find myself turning on subtitles (when available) more and more even >>> for supposedly English speakers. >> >> +1 >> For several reasons -- but the major reason is because of the loud'ish, >> gratuitous music that is played over the dialogue. > > inter-modulating in your ear with the speech... > > Deafness isn't just about frequency response and gain I've noticed that myself. In a quiet environment, I can still hear quite faint sounds. For instance, the hearing test where the doctor whispers numbers from across the room is no problem for me, and on a hike I can hear birds from a long way off. But picking out speech from background noise is becoming more and more difficult; in a loud environment I'm functionally deaf. I've also noticed that many young people seem to slur their words, which makes the problem even worse. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 20:14 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Accents. |
| Message-ID | <mmhv9fFkmn2U8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76831 |
On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 19:31:15 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > I've noticed that myself. In a quiet environment, I can still hear > quite faint sounds. For instance, the hearing test where the doctor > whispers numbers from across the room is no problem for me, and on a > hike I can hear birds from a long way off. > But picking out speech from background noise is becoming more and more > difficult; in a loud environment I'm functionally deaf. I don't know if I'm getting worse or not. I always had a problem hearing someone in an environment like a noisy restaurant. > I've also noticed that many young people seem to slur their words, which > makes the problem even worse. It does seem enunciation isn't what it used to be with more syllables being elided.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 20:11 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Accents. |
| Message-ID | <mmhv3eFkmn2U7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76830 |
On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 17:31:16 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 30/10/2025 17:29, Allodoxaphobia wrote: >> On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 18:47:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>> I find myself turning on subtitles (when available) more and more even >>> for supposedly English speakers. >> >> +1 For several reasons -- but the major reason is because of the >> loud'ish, >> gratuitous music that is played over the dialogue. >> >> > inter-modulating in your ear with the speech... > > Deafness isn't just about frequency response and gain I'm sure my hearing isn't as good as it was 50 years ago but I've always had a problem with high background noise.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 20:10 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Accents. |
| Message-ID | <mmhv0oFkmn2U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76829 |
On 30 Oct 2025 17:29:34 GMT, Allodoxaphobia wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 18:47:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >> I find myself turning on subtitles (when available) more and more even >> for supposedly English speakers. > > +1 For several reasons -- but the major reason is because of the > loud'ish, > gratuitous music that is played over the dialogue. I agree on that. I also don't care for the trend toward dark scenes. I don't mean dark as in murder and mayhem but as in lighting. My theory is low lighting levels means they can be sloppier with set construction. Before HD that got smoothed out better.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 21:35 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Accents. |
| Message-ID | <5quctlxlmi.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76832 |
On 2025-10-30 21:10, rbowman wrote: > On 30 Oct 2025 17:29:34 GMT, Allodoxaphobia wrote: > >> On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 18:47:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>> I find myself turning on subtitles (when available) more and more even >>> for supposedly English speakers. >> >> +1 For several reasons -- but the major reason is because of the >> loud'ish, >> gratuitous music that is played over the dialogue. > > I agree on that. I also don't care for the trend toward dark scenes. I > don't mean dark as in murder and mayhem but as in lighting. My theory is > low lighting levels means they can be sloppier with set construction. > Before HD that got smoothed out better. I complained of that with the original Blade Runner movie. Why has the future to be dark? Surely they will have invented good lighting sources. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 21:40 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Accents. |
| Message-ID | <slrn10g7mde.vsv7.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #76838 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote at 20:35 this Thursday (GMT): > On 2025-10-30 21:10, rbowman wrote: >> On 30 Oct 2025 17:29:34 GMT, Allodoxaphobia wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 18:47:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> >>>> I find myself turning on subtitles (when available) more and more even >>>> for supposedly English speakers. >>> >>> +1 For several reasons -- but the major reason is because of the >>> loud'ish, >>> gratuitous music that is played over the dialogue. >> >> I agree on that. I also don't care for the trend toward dark scenes. I >> don't mean dark as in murder and mayhem but as in lighting. My theory is >> low lighting levels means they can be sloppier with set construction. >> Before HD that got smoothed out better. > > I complained of that with the original Blade Runner movie. Why has the > future to be dark? Surely they will have invented good lighting sources. because it looks cool and realism or something -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 15:18 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Accents. |
| Message-ID | <10e0o7u$1q6j$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76838 |
On 10/30/25 13:35, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-10-30 21:10, rbowman wrote: >> On 30 Oct 2025 17:29:34 GMT, Allodoxaphobia wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 18:47:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> >>>> I find myself turning on subtitles (when available) more and more even >>>> for supposedly English speakers. >>> >>> +1 For several reasons -- but the major reason is because of the >>> loud'ish, >>> gratuitous music that is played over the dialogue. >> >> I agree on that. I also don't care for the trend toward dark scenes. I >> don't mean dark as in murder and mayhem but as in lighting. My theory is >> low lighting levels means they can be sloppier with set construction. >> Before HD that got smoothed out better. > > I complained of that with the original Blade Runner movie. Why has the > future to be dark? Surely they will have invented good lighting sources. Electricity is being rationed and the City cannot afford the rates for on peak use. I try to tune off appliances apart from the computer and refrigerator during peak use hours. Some of the darkness is due to the use of coal as mandated by the former dictator Trump. The dust from transport and the soot from use of coal darken the surfaces and cover lots of fixtures. bliss - scarcely optimistic at 88 yoa
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-31 03:17 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Accents. |
| Message-ID | <mmio1tFodrtU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76840 |
On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:18:38 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > Electricity is being rationed and the City cannot afford the rates for > on peak use. I try to tune off appliances apart from the computer and > refrigerator during peak use hours. I was shocked when I got my September electric bill. The usage was up to winter levels when I use electric space heaters. The culprit was an 'energy saving' LED bulb that was trying to act as a space heater. It finally destroyed the switch in the fixture. I thought the bulb had failed but when I went to remove it it was red hot. I replaced the entire fixture. That energy saving feature cost me a lot more than any energy it ever saved. I'm amazed it didn't blow the 15 A fuse.
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 21:46 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Accents. |
| Message-ID | <10e1euk$7j0h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76847 |
On 10/30/25 20:17, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:18:38 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> Electricity is being rationed and the City cannot afford the > rates > for >> on peak use. I try to tune off appliances apart from the computer and >> refrigerator during peak use hours. > > I was shocked when I got my September electric bill. The usage was up to > winter levels when I use electric space heaters. > > The culprit was an 'energy saving' LED bulb that was trying to act as a > space heater. It finally destroyed the switch in the fixture. I thought > the bulb had failed but when I went to remove it it was red hot. I > replaced the entire fixture. > > That energy saving feature cost me a lot more than any energy it ever > saved. I'm amazed it didn't blow the 15 A fuse. I am surprised that you tried to replace an incandescent with an LED for heating purposes. When was younger and spryer I would get on a step-stool at this Time of Year and put up some incandescent bulbs in the bathroom to be able to warm it up. Feel too unstable for some time now to do that as being 30 inches off the floor makes me insecure. Broken ankle does not help with that and no room for a cane. bliss
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-31 19:25 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Accents. |
| Message-ID | <mmkgpaF3fffU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76854 |
On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 21:46:12 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > I am surprised that you tried to replace an incandescent with an LED > for > heating purposes. When was younger and spryer I would get on a > step-stool at this Time of Year and put up some incandescent bulbs in > the bathroom to be able to warm it up. Feel too unstable for some time > now to do that as being 30 inches off the floor makes me insecure. > Broken ankle does not help with that and no room for a cane. I did not intend the LED bulb to be a space heater. A few years ago the electric coop sent out boxes of CFL bulbs and I replaced the incandescent bulbs with those. When CFLs went out of favor they sent out boxes of LED bulb and I used those. They were 60 W equivalent but as my cataracts got worse I got 100 W equivalent bulbs that also had a small slider to select the color temperature. It was one of those that failed. I didn't dissect it but I don't know how a LED could pull enough current to become very hot and not fail. Ultimately it was the switch that failed. For heat I use regular 1500 W space heaters. I expect my electric bill to go up with those on but I wasn't using them in September. I also have a hot air gas furnace but when the blower turns on it's like a 747 taking off so I prefer electric until it gets very cold. I don't know which is more economical. Propane isn't cheap either.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-01 14:38 +0100 |
| Subject | LED lights |
| Message-ID | <p2fhtlx1us.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76870 |
On 2025-10-31 20:25, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 21:46:12 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> I am surprised that you tried to replace an incandescent with an > LED >> for >> heating purposes. When was younger and spryer I would get on a >> step-stool at this Time of Year and put up some incandescent bulbs in >> the bathroom to be able to warm it up. Feel too unstable for some time >> now to do that as being 30 inches off the floor makes me insecure. >> Broken ankle does not help with that and no room for a cane. > > I did not intend the LED bulb to be a space heater. A few years ago the > electric coop sent out boxes of CFL bulbs and I replaced the incandescent > bulbs with those. When CFLs went out of favor they sent out boxes of LED > bulb and I used those. They were 60 W equivalent but as my cataracts got > worse I got 100 W equivalent bulbs that also had a small slider to select > the color temperature. It was one of those that failed. Ah, I have never seen those. Those that I have that can control the colour temperature do so with a remote IR or radio controller; not bulbs, but large fixtures, a flat rectangle. Maybe bulbs via WiFI? IoT? > > I didn't dissect it but I don't know how a LED could pull enough current > to become very hot and not fail. Ultimately it was the switch that > failed. > > For heat I use regular 1500 W space heaters. I expect my electric bill to > go up with those on but I wasn't using them in September. I also have a > hot air gas furnace but when the blower turns on it's like a 747 taking > off so I prefer electric until it gets very cold. I don't know which is > more economical. Propane isn't cheap either. I'm preparing to move house, and the new place will have some type of AC working as a heat pump. It is the cheapest method in terms of electricity usage. Cost of the system and repairs might nullify that. Probably cheapest here (doesn't snow) are space heaters with butane bottles. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-01 20:50 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: LED lights |
| Message-ID | <NzydnU_gtfZEN5v0nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76908 |
On 11/1/25 09:38, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-10-31 20:25, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 21:46:12 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >> >>> I am surprised that you tried to replace an incandescent with an >> LED >>> for >>> heating purposes. When was younger and spryer I would get on a >>> step-stool at this Time of Year and put up some incandescent bulbs in >>> the bathroom to be able to warm it up. Feel too unstable for some time >>> now to do that as being 30 inches off the floor makes me insecure. >>> Broken ankle does not help with that and no room for a cane. >> >> I did not intend the LED bulb to be a space heater. A few years ago the >> electric coop sent out boxes of CFL bulbs and I replaced the incandescent >> bulbs with those. When CFLs went out of favor they sent out boxes of LED >> bulb and I used those. They were 60 W equivalent but as my cataracts got >> worse I got 100 W equivalent bulbs that also had a small slider to select >> the color temperature. It was one of those that failed. > > Ah, I have never seen those. > > Those that I have that can control the colour temperature do so with a > remote IR or radio controller; not bulbs, but large fixtures, a flat > rectangle. > > Maybe bulbs via WiFI? IoT? Doesn't that just seem like MASSIVE over-tech/thinking ? It's supposed to light the room decently. Pick the 5k static color. No muss, no fuss, no remote-controls, cheap. >> I didn't dissect it but I don't know how a LED could pull enough current >> to become very hot and not fail. Ultimately it was the switch that >> failed. >> >> For heat I use regular 1500 W space heaters. I expect my electric bill to >> go up with those on but I wasn't using them in September. I also have a >> hot air gas furnace but when the blower turns on it's like a 747 taking >> off so I prefer electric until it gets very cold. I don't know which is >> more economical. Propane isn't cheap either. > > > I'm preparing to move house, and the new place will have some type of AC > working as a heat pump. It is the cheapest method in terms of > electricity usage. Cost of the system and repairs might nullify that. > > Probably cheapest here (doesn't snow) are space heaters with butane > bottles. But remember that flames SUCK OXYGEN and GENERATE CARBON MONOXIDE !!!
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-02 11:14 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LED lights |
| Message-ID | <10e7ee9$21ncq$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76928 |
On 02/11/2025 00:50, c186282 wrote: > But remember that flames SUCK OXYGEN and GENERATE > CARBON MONOXIDE !!! Peepul SUCK OXYGEN and GENERATE CARBON DIOXIDE !!! Kill the Peepul!!!... -- "And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch". Gospel of St. Mathew 15:14
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-02 15:41 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: LED lights |
| Message-ID | <057ktlxrat.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76928 |
On 2025-11-02 01:50, c186282 wrote: > On 11/1/25 09:38, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-10-31 20:25, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 21:46:12 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>> >>>> I am surprised that you tried to replace an incandescent with an >>> LED >>>> for >>>> heating purposes. When was younger and spryer I would get on a >>>> step-stool at this Time of Year and put up some incandescent bulbs in >>>> the bathroom to be able to warm it up. Feel too unstable for some >>>> time >>>> now to do that as being 30 inches off the floor makes me insecure. >>>> Broken ankle does not help with that and no room for a cane. >>> >>> I did not intend the LED bulb to be a space heater. A few years ago the >>> electric coop sent out boxes of CFL bulbs and I replaced the >>> incandescent >>> bulbs with those. When CFLs went out of favor they sent out boxes of LED >>> bulb and I used those. They were 60 W equivalent but as my cataracts got >>> worse I got 100 W equivalent bulbs that also had a small slider to >>> select >>> the color temperature. It was one of those that failed. >> >> Ah, I have never seen those. >> >> Those that I have that can control the colour temperature do so with a >> remote IR or radio controller; not bulbs, but large fixtures, a flat >> rectangle. >> >> Maybe bulbs via WiFI? IoT? > > Doesn't that just seem like MASSIVE over-tech/thinking ? > > It's supposed to light the room decently. Pick the 5k > static color. No muss, no fuss, no remote-controls, cheap. I pick the 400K variant :-) > > >>> I didn't dissect it but I don't know how a LED could pull enough current >>> to become very hot and not fail. Ultimately it was the switch that >>> failed. >>> >>> For heat I use regular 1500 W space heaters. I expect my electric >>> bill to >>> go up with those on but I wasn't using them in September. I also have a >>> hot air gas furnace but when the blower turns on it's like a 747 taking >>> off so I prefer electric until it gets very cold. I don't know which is >>> more economical. Propane isn't cheap either. >> >> >> I'm preparing to move house, and the new place will have some type of >> AC working as a heat pump. It is the cheapest method in terms of >> electricity usage. Cost of the system and repairs might nullify that. >> >> Probably cheapest here (doesn't snow) are space heaters with butane >> bottles. > > But remember that flames SUCK OXYGEN and GENERATE > CARBON MONOXIDE !!! True, so open the window a bit. Oh, no carbon monoxide with these machines. Just CO2. Otherwise they would not be authorized. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-02 19:57 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LED lights |
| Message-ID | <mmprdcFnpU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76928 |
On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 20:50:35 -0400, c186282 wrote: > But remember that flames SUCK OXYGEN and GENERATE CARBON MONOXIDE !!! Most of the portables have a low oxygen shutdown. The left loons started a campaign against gas ranges, all that pollution and CO. You absolutely cannot use them as a heat source. Answer me this. Yesterday I made pulled pork in a dutch oven in the oven, about 5 hours at 300 degrees. Exactly how is that different from using the oven as a space heater? They may have a point. There have been quite a few apartment fires in NYC that resulted from stoves. Orthodox Jews can't start a fire on the sabbath, but nothing says they can't turn the burners on before the sabbath. https://scripturetruthministries.com/2018/03/23/kindle-no-fire-on-the- sabbath/ Stone age tribal mores meet the 21st century.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-03 00:12 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: LED lights |
| Message-ID | <JrSNQ.178436$D_Tb.147439@fx47.iad> |
| In reply to | #76967 |
On 2025-11-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 20:50:35 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> But remember that flames SUCK OXYGEN and GENERATE CARBON MONOXIDE !!! > > Most of the portables have a low oxygen shutdown. > > The left loons started a campaign against gas ranges, all that pollution > and CO. You absolutely cannot use them as a heat source. The provincial government here in B.C. is trying to completely eliminate gas from all new construction (although there is pushback). They want us to use electricity for everything, presumably so they can sell the gas overseas. Meanwhile, we're already becoming a net importer of electricity, and between bitcoin factories and electric cars I figure it's just a matter of time before the brownouts start. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-03 02:38 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: LED lights |
| Message-ID | <2mdltlxus1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76978 |
On 2025-11-03 01:12, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-11-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 20:50:35 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> But remember that flames SUCK OXYGEN and GENERATE CARBON MONOXIDE !!! >> >> Most of the portables have a low oxygen shutdown. >> >> The left loons started a campaign against gas ranges, all that pollution >> and CO. You absolutely cannot use them as a heat source. > > The provincial government here in B.C. is trying to completely > eliminate gas from all new construction (although there is pushback). > They want us to use electricity for everything, presumably so they > can sell the gas overseas. Meanwhile, we're already becoming a > net importer of electricity, and between bitcoin factories and > electric cars I figure it's just a matter of time before the > brownouts start. > It is easier to distribute electricity than gas, and then burn gas at the electricity generators instead. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-03 00:19 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: LED lights |
| Message-ID | <CFSdnYtCeozZppX0nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76979 |
On 11/2/25 20:38, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-11-03 01:12, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2025-11-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 20:50:35 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> But remember that flames SUCK OXYGEN and GENERATE CARBON >>>> MONOXIDE !!! >>> >>> Most of the portables have a low oxygen shutdown. >>> >>> The left loons started a campaign against gas ranges, all that pollution >>> and CO. You absolutely cannot use them as a heat source. >> >> The provincial government here in B.C. is trying to completely >> eliminate gas from all new construction (although there is pushback). >> They want us to use electricity for everything, presumably so they >> can sell the gas overseas. Meanwhile, we're already becoming a >> net importer of electricity, and between bitcoin factories and >> electric cars I figure it's just a matter of time before the >> brownouts start. >> > > It is easier to distribute electricity than gas, and then burn gas at > the electricity generators instead. Ah ... but if you're going to double or triple the electric consumption then you have to re-do the entire grid. NOT cheap, NOT quick.
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