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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-11-24 23:48 +0000 |
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AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 09:37 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:21 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:35 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 23:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 04:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:40 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-10 18:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-11 11:00 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:39 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:31 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:09 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:03 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:28 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:04 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:19 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-13 19:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 07:09 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:06 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 11:32 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:45 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 22:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:30 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 21:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:30 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 16:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-16 18:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 18:59 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-16 13:43 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 02:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-17 07:58 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-17 17:38 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 22:16 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-18 08:53 -0400
Bikes [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:02 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:51 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 22:55 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:32 +0000
Nuisance fauna [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:31 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-19 08:41 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 00:23 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 03:32 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:34 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 23:22 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-21 08:54 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:22 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:21 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:07 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:42 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:11 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:47 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 08:19 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:50 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:32 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 20:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 11:53 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:32 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 21:52 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:44 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:34 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:23 -0400
Oil leaks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:13 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:29 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-20 20:48 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 04:10 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:39 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:48 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:34 -0400
Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:30 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-22 18:03 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:51 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:54 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:26 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-23 04:01 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:27 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:59 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 04:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 22:09 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:23 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 20:51 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:58 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 18:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 22:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:48 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 03:12 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 02:54 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:23 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:45 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-27 03:07 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 14:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 14:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 14:17 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 05:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:08 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 22:30 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-28 11:25 -0700
The Good Ol' Days of Computing? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:15 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 02:12 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 08:43 -0700
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 21:30 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 03:07 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 00:49 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 06:29 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 07:00 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:32 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:39 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:29 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:37 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:21 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 04:01 +0000
Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:21 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 16:53 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:48 -0400
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:53 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 13:56 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:30 -0400
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 08:15 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:44 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 12:51 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 15:39 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 02:14 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:52 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:37 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 10:18 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:42 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:18 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 19:28 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-10-24 03:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:21 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:57 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:23 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:13 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:38 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:17 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:29 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:59 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 19:09 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:49 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:38 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 13:05 -0700
Agriculture "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:25 +0200
Re: Agriculture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:22 +0000
Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:21 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:14 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:06 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:01 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:09 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:40 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:22 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 01:54 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:20 +0200
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:28 -0400
Re: Vehicles The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 08:55 +0100
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:09 +0200
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 17:46 +0000
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:08 +0000
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 22:28 +0000
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:09 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:43 +0200
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:47 +0200
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-13 17:25 +0000
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:51 -0400
Pouring a coffee into a street drain. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 09:59 +0200
Re: Pouring a coffee into a street drain. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:43 +0000
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:45 -0400
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:50 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-19 14:24 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 06:04 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:48 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:52 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 01:02 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:39 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:33 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:33 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:37 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:38 -0400
Vehicles. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 17:36 +0000
Car inspections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:38 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 19:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:55 +0100
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:59 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:00 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:29 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-16 11:22 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:34 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 18:11 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 21:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 23:45 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 22:19 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-02 11:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:59 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 06:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-02 03:05 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-02 07:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:37 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:29 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 05:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-10-03 11:33 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:25 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 04:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 21:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:37 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 08:54 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 10:02 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:21 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:20 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-04 17:04 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-03 08:03 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 22:55 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:06 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-01 20:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:58 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-09-30 11:25 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 12:56 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:48 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:16 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-10-31 16:52 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-31 22:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 08:07 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 03:58 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-01 17:32 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:09 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:09 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:28 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:17 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-11-03 07:52 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-02 22:21 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-11-03 09:30 +1000
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:49 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-24 23:08 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 06:56 +0000
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-19 14:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10d3kuq$2pp4m$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76386 |
On 10/19/25 13:40, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 08:41:29 +0100, Pancho wrote:
>
>
>> Yeah, sorry, I take road bike to mean a pedal bicycle. Disk brakes are
>> relatively recent for pedal bicycles, whereas motorcycles have had disk
>> brakes for decades. (I guess they had drum brakes before?) So I assumed
>> pedal bicycle.
>
Topic drift. All of my motorcyles were Road Bikes as opposed to
Off-Road or Dirt
BIkes.
> One of my bicycles has a disk brake on the front wheel. It's mechanically
> operated although I think there are hydraulic versions. My first
> motorcycle was a '55 Harley which had mechanically operated drum brakes
> front and rear.
>
> The Honda CB750 was the first popular motorcycle to use a front disk. For
> '69 it was a superbike. The rear was a drum. I don't know when the
> transition was mostly complete. I had a '82 Yamaha with a front disk and
> mechanically operated drum on the rear. About 70% of the braking is done
> with the front wheel so the rear wasn't a priority. Also, the forward
> weight transfer during hard braking meant you couldn't use much rear
> braking. I tend to only use the brake for trailing braking in a corner. My
> '98 Harley, '03 Suzuki DR650 and '08 DL650 are disk on both ends.
>
>> One thing that has always puzzled me about sporty motorcycles is, why do
>> they have two disk brakes on the front wheel. One per wheel is enough
>> for my much heavier car.
>
> Posers? Many are race replicas and when you're repeatedly slowing down
> from 160 mph more is better. Of course most bike riders don't do 160 or at
> least not for very long, so a lot is probably style. The Harley and the
> DR650 might make it to 100 sooner or later with a tailwind and have single
> disks. The DL650 will do 125 and has duals.
>
> The DL650 might have been influenced by its sibling, the SV650. That one
> is popular for racing. The DL650 has the same engine but it's configured
> to be less peaky. Perhaps the front fork assembly is also shared.
>
Unless Harley's have gotten a lot lighter than in my day, 1958 they
could use
Dual disks.
I rode a BMW R-60 from the same time with double acting drum
brakes and learned to use those on San Francisco hills but that was
in the 1970s.
They were very good brakes but imagine waiting a car ahead and
behind on a
hill were if you let go you rolled backward into the impatient car
or forward
into the waiting car.
I traded to the BMW R-72, a 750 cc twin with front disk as I
recall. I went
for heavier suspension springs when I stuck a Vetter fairing on the
front. Rode it
in the California 1000 one year. But that was my daily driver in
those halcyon
days of my youth. I used to ride in all the Poker Runs within a
hundred miles
or so. In laters 70s I needed money and sold it.
But a few years later on was on a Yamaha 550 V twin and had to give it up
due to cramps in my arms from operating the throttle which was the
onset of
my exhaustion syndrome.
It also became more expensive to keep off the street in those
years. Formerly I parked in a large garage across the street but
that was
replaced with a large apartment building. Then I parked in a apartment
house courtyard for a while but my bags and bike cover were ripped off
and again as I got sicker the money to deal with problems became harder
to come by so I sold the Yamaha to a friend from the Commodore Users
Group.
bliss - happy to be able to walk a block or so these days.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-20 06:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlm1nkF8pfpU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76390 |
On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 14:24:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > Topic drift. All of my motorcyles were Road Bikes as opposed to > Off-Road or Dirt > BIkes. All my bikes tended to be off road as required. After I bought the Sportster I went on a camping trip. The road into the Highwoods is about 30 miles of gravel. No problem. The road out the other side is also gravel but fords the same damn creek 5 times. I didn't know how I would explain dropping a new Harley in the middle of a creek 30 miles from pavement. It actually crossed the fords with less drama that the DR650 with knobbies. I did get a very strange look from a Forest Service rangerette who passed me going the other way. Then there was the episode of a little cow herding since it's the land of many abuses after all. The DR650 is an actual dual sport. The DL650 is an 'adventure' bike although it prefers not to get to adventuresome. > Unless Harley's have gotten a lot lighter than in my day, 1958 they > could use > Dual disks. The Sportster runs around 500 pounds wet. The Road Thing is 800. That's even heavier than the Triumph Rocket 3 with the 2500 cc engine but Gold Wings are around 850.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-20 10:48 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <dk9hslxu4o.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76404 |
On 2025-10-20 08:04, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 14:24:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> Topic drift. All of my motorcyles were Road Bikes as opposed to >> Off-Road or Dirt >> BIkes. > > All my bikes tended to be off road as required. After I bought the > Sportster I went on a camping trip. The road into the Highwoods is about > 30 miles of gravel. No problem. The road out the other side is also gravel > but fords the same damn creek 5 times. I didn't know how I would explain > dropping a new Harley in the middle of a creek 30 miles from pavement. It > actually crossed the fords with less drama that the DR650 with knobbies. I > did get a very strange look from a Forest Service rangerette who passed me > going the other way. Then there was the episode of a little cow herding > since it's the land of many abuses after all. > > The DR650 is an actual dual sport. The DL650 is an 'adventure' bike > although it prefers not to get to adventuresome. Once I was working for a fortnight on the island of Las Palmas (the Canaries). On the central weekend I rented a small car, a Ford K. Saturday I went around the entire island "circle". Sunday I crossed east-west through the middle. The road started as a dual lane highway for each direction, and finished as a dirt road down a high mountain. No going back when I found out. <https://www.google.es/maps/@27.9569136,-15.6016698,11z?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTAxNC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D> I can not see my route in that map, though. I think I passed "Mogán". But you can see in the map that the east of the island has many roads, and the west doesn't. Also, all gas stations were closed on the west side going back to the hotel. I wasn't sure I could get back. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-20 19:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlni8pFgob9U7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76413 |
On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 10:48:45 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > Once I was working for a fortnight on the island of Las Palmas (the > Canaries). On the central weekend I rented a small car, a Ford K. > Saturday I went around the entire island "circle". Sunday I crossed > east-west through the middle. The road started as a dual lane highway > for each direction, and finished as a dirt road down a high mountain. No > going back when I found out. There are quite a few roads like that here. The problem is they are not maintained in the winter. People take the 'shortcut', hit a section of unplowed road, and continue on, thinking it will get better. It doesn't, they get hopelessly stuck, find there is no cell coverage, and if they're really unlucky, die. Following a GPS requires a little common sense. > But you can see in the map that the east of the island has many roads, > and the west doesn't. Also, all gas stations were closed on the west > side going back to the hotel. I wasn't sure I could get back. Self service gas stations have been a vast improvement. I've slept in the car more than once waiting for the gas station to reopen in the morning. I put an aftermarket tank on the DR650 instead of the stock 3.4 gallon. There are back roads between here and Idaho where you pass the point of no return with the stock tank and have to continue into Idaho to find gas. Many out of state bike riders aren't ready for infrequent gas stations and spotty cell phone coverage.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 01:02 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <3lrislx6l9.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76432 |
On 2025-10-20 21:52, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 10:48:45 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > >> Once I was working for a fortnight on the island of Las Palmas (the >> Canaries). On the central weekend I rented a small car, a Ford K. >> Saturday I went around the entire island "circle". Sunday I crossed >> east-west through the middle. The road started as a dual lane highway >> for each direction, and finished as a dirt road down a high mountain. No >> going back when I found out. > > There are quite a few roads like that here. The problem is they are not > maintained in the winter. People take the 'shortcut', hit a section of > unplowed road, and continue on, thinking it will get better. It doesn't, > they get hopelessly stuck, find there is no cell coverage, and if they're > really unlucky, die. Following a GPS requires a little common sense. No GPS back then, just paper maps. And the one I had was not good enough to know there was a dirt road in the route. > >> But you can see in the map that the east of the island has many roads, >> and the west doesn't. Also, all gas stations were closed on the west >> side going back to the hotel. I wasn't sure I could get back. > > Self service gas stations have been a vast improvement. I've slept in the > car more than once waiting for the gas station to reopen in the morning. I > put an aftermarket tank on the DR650 instead of the stock 3.4 gallon. > There are back roads between here and Idaho where you pass the point of no > return with the stock tank and have to continue into Idaho to find gas. > > Many out of state bike riders aren't ready for infrequent gas stations and > spotty cell phone coverage. > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 03:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlodjnFku2iU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76439 |
On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 01:02:27 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > No GPS back then, just paper maps. And the one I had was not good enough > to know there was a dirt road in the route. On a family vacation to Nova Scotia I found a likely looking road on the map. It was about the same deal. NS is an island with all the towns on the shore and nothing in the middle. After the pavement ran out and the dirt road became narrower and narrower my mother vetoed my trip planning and we turned around. No sense of adventure. There were plenty of dirt roads where I grew up but she knew where they came out.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 01:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <IXqdnT0XcbmXhmr1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76448 |
On 10/20/25 23:39, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 01:02:27 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> No GPS back then, just paper maps. And the one I had was not good enough >> to know there was a dirt road in the route. > > On a family vacation to Nova Scotia I found a likely looking road on the > map. It was about the same deal. NS is an island with all the towns on the > shore and nothing in the middle. After the pavement ran out and the dirt > road became narrower and narrower my mother vetoed my trip planning and we > turned around. No sense of adventure. There were plenty of dirt roads > where I grew up but she knew where they came out. I still like paper maps ... but for travel purposes you really need to get county-by- county versions in order to find all the hidden routes.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 21:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <7p3lslxkjt.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76456 |
On 2025-10-21 07:33, c186282 wrote: > On 10/20/25 23:39, rbowman wrote: >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 01:02:27 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> No GPS back then, just paper maps. And the one I had was not good enough >>> to know there was a dirt road in the route. >> >> On a family vacation to Nova Scotia I found a likely looking road on the >> map. It was about the same deal. NS is an island with all the towns on >> the >> shore and nothing in the middle. After the pavement ran out and the dirt >> road became narrower and narrower my mother vetoed my trip planning >> and we >> turned around. No sense of adventure. There were plenty of dirt roads >> where I grew up but she knew where they came out. > > I still like paper maps ... but for travel > purposes you really need to get county-by- > county versions in order to find all the > hidden routes. Well, here I just had one book (spring bound) with the maps for the entire Spain, in enough detail. I keep it in the car, but I haven't "updated" it in years. In my little adventure in the islands, I did not bring the map in my luggage, I think. I suppose I bought something local. Today, google maps or openstreetmap has much more detail, even if you use it without a GPS. You can not zoom on a paper map. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 23:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <McmdnQh8lav9zGX1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76477 |
On 10/21/25 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-10-21 07:33, c186282 wrote: >> On 10/20/25 23:39, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 01:02:27 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>>> No GPS back then, just paper maps. And the one I had was not good >>>> enough >>>> to know there was a dirt road in the route. >>> >>> On a family vacation to Nova Scotia I found a likely looking road on the >>> map. It was about the same deal. NS is an island with all the towns >>> on the >>> shore and nothing in the middle. After the pavement ran out and the dirt >>> road became narrower and narrower my mother vetoed my trip planning >>> and we >>> turned around. No sense of adventure. There were plenty of dirt roads >>> where I grew up but she knew where they came out. >> >> I still like paper maps ... but for travel >> purposes you really need to get county-by- >> county versions in order to find all the >> hidden routes. > > Well, here I just had one book (spring bound) with the maps for the > entire Spain, in enough detail. I keep it in the car, but I haven't > "updated" it in years. > > In my little adventure in the islands, I did not bring the map in my > luggage, I think. I suppose I bought something local. > > Today, google maps or openstreetmap has much more detail, even if you > use it without a GPS. You can not zoom on a paper map. GM and friends do have lots of detail ... but they tend to show "official" roads and such. Any local resident knows the 'secret ways', the 'secret places'. These may appear on a paper per-county map but not on GM. I did a lot of motorcycling when I was slightly younger - worked it out to 1,000,000+ miles, used up LOTS of bikes. Found MANY "secret ways" and neat-o mystery features that appeared on no maps.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-22 06:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlrau9F4r85U10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76489 |
On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:37:04 -0400, c186282 wrote: > I did a lot of motorcycling when I was slightly younger - worked it > out to 1,000,000+ miles, used up LOTS of bikes. Found MANY "secret > ways" > and neat-o mystery features that appeared on no maps. Then there are the mystery features that DO appear on the maps. There's a bridge near the house that was closed to vehicles in the late '80s. I think it was '95 when most of the deck washed away in the spring flood. Without the deck the pilings are long gone now but it is still on some maps. Having a warped sense of humor I put a geocache on the far side of the river. You can drive close to it but the route isn't obvious. I also put one on a ridge where DeLorme showed a road. In that case there never was any sort of road just a trail that would give a mountain goat vertigo. Reagan popularized it but it's a Russian proverb: trust, but verify. Good advice when dealing with maps, paper or digital.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-22 03:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1iadnX_dkMlyFGX1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76506 |
On 10/22/25 02:12, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:37:04 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> I did a lot of motorcycling when I was slightly younger - worked it >> out to 1,000,000+ miles, used up LOTS of bikes. Found MANY "secret >> ways" >> and neat-o mystery features that appeared on no maps. > > Then there are the mystery features that DO appear on the maps. There's a > bridge near the house that was closed to vehicles in the late '80s. I > think it was '95 when most of the deck washed away in the spring flood. > Without the deck the pilings are long gone now but it is still on some > maps. > > Having a warped sense of humor I put a geocache on the far side of the > river. You can drive close to it but the route isn't obvious. I also put > one on a ridge where DeLorme showed a road. In that case there never was > any sort of road just a trail that would give a mountain goat vertigo. > > Reagan popularized it but it's a Russian proverb: trust, but verify. Good > advice when dealing with maps, paper or digital. Heh - VERY true !!! :-) There are some US television commercials that feature the talking GPS telling people to make non-existent turns and such - funny, at least in the commercials. Now ... what about the 'self-driving' taxicabs ? They WILL believe the fake instructions ....
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-22 14:35 +0200 |
| Subject | Vehicles. |
| Message-ID | <llvmslxj6n.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76506 |
On 2025-10-22 08:12, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:37:04 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> I did a lot of motorcycling when I was slightly younger - worked it >> out to 1,000,000+ miles, used up LOTS of bikes. Found MANY "secret >> ways" >> and neat-o mystery features that appeared on no maps. > > Then there are the mystery features that DO appear on the maps. There's a > bridge near the house that was closed to vehicles in the late '80s. I > think it was '95 when most of the deck washed away in the spring flood. > Without the deck the pilings are long gone now but it is still on some > maps. > > Having a warped sense of humor I put a geocache on the far side of the > river. You can drive close to it but the route isn't obvious. I also put > one on a ridge where DeLorme showed a road. In that case there never was > any sort of road just a trail that would give a mountain goat vertigo. > > Reagan popularized it but it's a Russian proverb: trust, but verify. Good > advice when dealing with maps, paper or digital. Yeah. There are videos of vehicles going "down" a street that is actually a flight of stairs. For real, not on a movie. They were following google maps or tomtom or similar. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 19:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlq61kFcg3U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76456 |
On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 01:33:01 -0400, c186282 wrote: > I still like paper maps ... but for travel purposes you really need > to get county-by- > county versions in order to find all the hidden routes. https://www.garmin.com/en-US/c/delorme-atlas-gazetteer/ Those are pretty good for a state. One of the things I enjoy about geocaching is when you're traveling a careful selection of caches will bring you to interesting places you'd miss without local knowledge.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-17 17:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlfd5hF57h4U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76279 |
On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 07:58:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > On a road bike you have to be careful about using the front brake. > Those disk brakes can get pretty grabby. That's about all I use anymore. I do have to be careful switching from the V-Strom to the Sportster. Part of the problem is the Sporty came with DOT 5 which sucked. I never got around to purging the system and using 4 or 5.1. About all that can be said for 5 is that it doesn't double as a paint stripper.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-15 14:35 +0200 |
| Subject | Car inspections. |
| Message-ID | <v0h4slxhhd.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76147 |
On 2025-10-15 01:31, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > We used to have vehicle inspection stations here in B.C. but the > provincial government shut them down around 1982 as a "cost-saving > measure". The inspection system here (Spain) charges the owners, and they are mandatory. They make a good profit. The first inspection is at 4 years of age, then every two years, then every year. They check a lot of things. Gases, of course. Transmission, brakes, suspension, lights, safety belts... -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-14 21:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <wpKcnU94_My7ZnP1nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76117 |
On 10/14/25 06:06, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-10-14 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 14/10/2025 09:04, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-10-14 07:24, c186282 wrote: >>>> On 10/13/25 15:05, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 03:24:19 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Most USA cars, you can easily get to, replace, things like brake >>>>>> drums/discs/bearings without getting more extreme. But not >>>>>> EVERYBODY >>>>>> thought that way. >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, sure... When the master cylinder on my '51 Chevy failed it >>>>> became >>>>> obvious that the cylinder had been bolted to the frame before the >>>>> body was >>>>> added. There was a small plate to allow replacing fluid but no >>>>> provision >>>>> for R&R. >>>> >>>> Hey, 1951 .... >>>> >>>> Drill the bolts and proceed. >>>> >>>>> I'm one of those strange people who looks under the hood when buying a >>>>> car. I like to identify everything that may need maintenance and >>>>> make sure >>>>> it's accessible. >>>> >>>> THESE days ??? They INTENTIONALLY hide everything. >>> >>> These days what breaks are the electronic sensors. Mechanical is >>> eternal, almost :-) >>> >> Not if its made of *plastic*. > > Hum. Yes. I repaired a radiator fan attachment part to the car body, > with epoxy resin with a fibre glass filling. The mechanic said *he* > could not do that (because he could not guarantee the repair for the > mandatory time), but me, sure, fine. The repair did hold till the car > was recycled. > >> >> Inlet manifolds made of plastic at a $600 replacement cost? Who, ever, >> broke a cast inlet manifold back in the day?... >> >> Composite timing belts that snap every 100,000 miles... > > Some are submerged in oil and break earlier. They decompose, clog the > oil filter with debris, and the engine is totalled because of oil > failure. Who was the idiot that thought submerging a rubber belt in oil > was a good idea? It was "good" because it was FAST AND CHEAP. By the mid 70s the US auto industry came under intense pressure from Europe and especially from Japan. This meant 'cost saving' measures whether they were particularly great or not. The good old 'heavy metal solutions' cost too much and corner-cutting became the norm. >> Engines that destroy themselves in a manufacturer's attempt to get >> better gas mileage or emissions? >> >> The cars are designed to last the warranty period and then be too >> expensive to be worth fixing.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-14 19:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ml7llaFom41U8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76105 |
On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 10:04:57 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Composite timing belts that snap every 100,000 miles... Like timing chains never failed... One difference was there were few interference engines.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-15 11:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10cnuic$3jj2s$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76131 |
On 14/10/2025 20:12, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 10:04:57 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> Composite timing belts that snap every 100,000 miles... > > Like timing chains never failed... One difference was there were few > interference engines. Timing chains rattled like SOBs long before they failed -- “Progress is precisely that which rules and regulations did not foresee,” – Ludwig von Mises
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| From | Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-16 03:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10f0oas.20j.spamtrap42@one.localnet> |
| In reply to | #76181 |
On 2025-10-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 14/10/2025 20:12, rbowman wrote: >> On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 10:04:57 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> Composite timing belts that snap every 100,000 miles... >> >> Like timing chains never failed... One difference was there were few >> interference engines. > > Timing chains rattled like SOBs long before they failed Not on a particular small-block Ford 351 (Windsor IIRC, but I might be wrong about that) in a 1970 Galaxy 500. The engine sounded fine until the second I punched it to get into a better place to make a lane change on the freeway at one point during the latter 1980s while on vacation about 800 miles from home. Thankfully, momentum allowed me to get over onto the slow-side shoulder, and I wasn't a hundred yards further along, where there would have been zero shoulder. In theory, the engine was non-interfering, but the event did something bad to one or more of the driver's side valves--requiring a one-side valve job after replacing the timing chain. -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@jacob21819.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-16 02:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <sE2dnT3UGeCyCm31nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76216 |
On 10/15/25 23:07, Robert Riches wrote: > On 2025-10-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 14/10/2025 20:12, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 10:04:57 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> Composite timing belts that snap every 100,000 miles... >>> >>> Like timing chains never failed... One difference was there were few >>> interference engines. >> >> Timing chains rattled like SOBs long before they failed > > Not on a particular small-block Ford 351 (Windsor IIRC, but I > might be wrong about that) in a 1970 Galaxy 500. The engine > sounded fine until the second I punched it to get into a better > place to make a lane change on the freeway at one point during > the latter 1980s while on vacation about 800 miles from home. > Thankfully, momentum allowed me to get over onto the slow-side > shoulder, and I wasn't a hundred yards further along, where there > would have been zero shoulder. In theory, the engine was > non-interfering, but the event did something bad to one or more > of the driver's side valves--requiring a one-side valve job after > replacing the timing chain. Dear Old Dad had a Galaxy 500. Generally good sedan - and "strong enough". My best 'momentum' story - Toyota Celica - Took off from stoplight in distant town and suddenly the whole rear end shredded. Looking for a place to dock on remaining momentum ... a Toyota dealership ! Floated in. They HAD a replacement rear end in the parts shed !!! Two hours, rolling again ! :-) Oh, they didn't charge for the part, only the labor. Japanese brands were good about that stuff back in the day. Apparently the flaw was "known".
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