Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over

Date	2025-10-16 02:56 -0400
Subject	Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
References	(16 earlier) <3pc1slx9ti.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10cl3np$2q6c4$3@dont-email.me> <ml7llaFom41U8@mid.individual.net> <10cnuic$3jj2s$2@dont-email.me> <slrn10f0oas.20j.spamtrap42@one.localnet>
From	c186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Organization	wokiesux
Message-ID	<sE2dnT3UGeCyCm31nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> (permalink)

Show all headers | View raw

On 10/15/25 23:07, Robert Riches wrote:
> On 2025-10-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 14/10/2025 20:12, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 10:04:57 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Composite timing belts that snap every 100,000 miles...
>>>
>>> Like timing chains never failed... One difference was there were few
>>> interference engines.
>>
>> Timing chains rattled like SOBs long before they failed
> 
> Not on a particular small-block Ford 351 (Windsor IIRC, but I
> might be wrong about that) in a 1970 Galaxy 500.  The engine
> sounded fine until the second I punched it to get into a better
> place to make a lane change on the freeway at one point during
> the latter 1980s while on vacation about 800 miles from home.
> Thankfully, momentum allowed me to get over onto the slow-side
> shoulder, and I wasn't a hundred yards further along, where there
> would have been zero shoulder.  In theory, the engine was
> non-interfering, but the event did something bad to one or more
> of the driver's side valves--requiring a one-side valve job after
> replacing the timing chain.

   Dear Old Dad had a Galaxy 500.

   Generally good sedan - and "strong enough".

   My best 'momentum' story - Toyota Celica -
   Took off from stoplight in distant town
   and suddenly the whole rear end shredded.
   Looking for a place to dock on remaining
   momentum ... a Toyota dealership ! Floated
   in. They HAD a replacement rear end in the
   parts shed !!! Two hours, rolling again ! :-)

   Oh, they didn't charge for the part, only
   the labor. Japanese brands were good about
   that stuff back in the day. Apparently the
   flaw was "known".

Back to comp.os.linux.misc | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar

Thread

Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-10 18:00 +0000
  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:41 -0400
    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-11 11:00 +0100
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:39 +0000
        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:31 -0400
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:09 +0100
    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:03 +0000
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:28 -0400
        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:04 +0100
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:40 +0000
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:24 -0400
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:19 +0100
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-13 19:05 +0000
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:24 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 07:09 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:35 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:06 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 11:32 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:45 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 22:05 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:30 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 21:47 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:41 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:30 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 16:57 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:31 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-16 18:43 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 18:59 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-16 13:43 -0700
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 02:02 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-17 07:58 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-17 17:38 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 22:16 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-18 08:53 -0400
                Bikes [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:02 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:51 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 22:55 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:32 +0000
                Nuisance fauna [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:31 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-19 08:41 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:15 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:57 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 00:23 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:44 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 03:32 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:34 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 23:22 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-21 08:54 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:22 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:45 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:21 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:07 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:05 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:42 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:11 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:47 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:45 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:47 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:46 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 08:19 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:05 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:50 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:32 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 20:12 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 11:53 -0700
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:32 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 21:52 -0700
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:44 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:34 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:41 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:40 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:23 -0400
                Oil leaks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:13 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:29 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:43 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-20 20:48 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 04:10 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:39 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:02 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:48 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:02 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:34 -0400
                Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:30 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-22 18:03 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:51 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:54 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:26 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:00 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-23 04:01 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:27 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:59 -0700
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 04:47 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 22:09 -0700
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:43 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:23 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 20:51 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:58 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:00 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 18:40 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 22:19 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:48 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 02:54 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:45 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-10-24 03:30 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:44 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:21 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:57 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:23 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:35 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:30 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:13 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:38 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:17 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:40 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:29 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:59 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:20 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 19:09 -0700
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:49 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:38 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:41 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 13:05 -0700
                Agriculture "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:25 +0200
                Re: Agriculture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:22 +0000
                Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:21 +0200
                Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:14 +0000
                Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:06 +0200
                Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:01 +0000
                Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:09 +0200
                Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:40 +0000
                Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:22 +0200
                Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 01:54 +0000
                Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:20 +0200
                Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:28 -0400
                Re: Vehicles The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 08:55 +0100
                Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:09 +0200
                Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 17:46 +0000
                Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:08 +0000
                Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 22:28 +0000
                Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:09 +0000
                Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:43 +0200
                Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:47 +0200
                Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:51 -0400
                Pouring a coffee into a street drain. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 09:59 +0200
                Re: Pouring a coffee into a street drain. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:43 +0000
                Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:45 -0400
                Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:06 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 00:32 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 23:18 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:50 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:40 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-19 14:24 -0700
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 06:04 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:48 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:52 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 01:02 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:39 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:33 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:33 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:37 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:12 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:38 -0400
                Vehicles. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:35 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:42 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 17:36 +0000
                Car inspections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:35 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:38 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 19:12 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:55 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-10-16 03:07 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:56 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:06 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:59 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:00 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:29 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-16 11:22 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:34 -0400

csiph-web