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| Started by | "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> |
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M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-29 20:24 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 10:34 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-30 10:50 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-30 11:00 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 18:44 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-31 15:26 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-31 16:20 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 23:49 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-31 20:30 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-01 13:07 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 23:00 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-01 05:25 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-01 01:54 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-01 14:45 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-01 11:39 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-01 14:47 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-01 15:32 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-01 16:00 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 11:39 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-02 20:41 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-02 20:46 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 22:01 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 22:00 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-01 19:38 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-01 19:58 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-01 20:40 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 11:45 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-02 17:03 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 21:58 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-02 21:50 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-02 22:36 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-03 22:53 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-04 05:46 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-04 09:36 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:37 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-03 22:52 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-03 22:09 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-04 05:31 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:30 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-02 21:29 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-03 22:55 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-03 22:17 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:31 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-02-05 07:02 +1000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-05 01:33 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-02-04 23:54 -0800
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-05 11:18 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-05 22:19 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-06 10:35 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-02-07 06:28 +1000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-06 22:30 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-02-07 15:39 +1000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-07 00:55 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-02-08 07:24 +1000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-02-07 16:19 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-07 17:38 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-07 10:22 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-07 12:42 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-06 22:09 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-06 23:53 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-06 23:27 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-07 10:23 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-05 11:04 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-03 10:38 -0800
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-03 20:27 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-03 23:15 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-04 05:35 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-04 09:41 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-04 13:07 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:39 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-03 23:14 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-04 00:36 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-03 22:56 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-02-05 09:54 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-05 19:32 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-05 22:23 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-06 04:50 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-06 00:45 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-02-06 18:12 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-06 20:38 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-06 23:13 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-02-06 18:10 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:29 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-03 22:48 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-04 05:54 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:35 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 11:44 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-02 20:45 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 22:01 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-02 21:26 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-03 04:17 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-03 01:29 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-03 09:45 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-03 09:08 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-03 22:54 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-01 19:36 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 11:42 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-01 14:44 +0100
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-31 13:35 +0000
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-30 06:14 -0500
Re: M$ 365 Down, Again Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-30 12:27 +0000
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| From | "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-06 23:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <KLydnVR0VNVWFjj6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #65236 |
On 2/6/25 5:53 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-02-06 04:19, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> On 2/5/25 5:18 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-02-05 07:33, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>>> On 2/4/25 4:02 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>>>>>> Zeps are technically "better", but the framework >>>>>>> is subject to stress and can snap - even if it >>>>>>> was upgraded to titanium. Blimps spread the load >>>>>>> across the entire envelope and can thus survive >>>>>>> sudden wind gusts better. They may kinda fold >>>>>>> and shimmy, but don't snap. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hmmmm ... maybe a 'hybrid' is possible now - >>>>>>> a blimp, but 'stiffened' a bit with like >>>>>>> graphite ribs so it's not SO floppy ? >>>>>> >>>>>> I heard about an experimental concept that does not use a gas for >>>>>> lift, >>>>>> but vacuum! Very fascinating! >>>>> >>>>> More theoretical than experimental - the materials might be >>>>> possible but I don't think anyone can make them yet. >>>> >>>> Um, no, CAN'T be made. Ever SEEN any kind of vac >>>> vessel even slightly compromised ? INSTANT total >>>> CRUSH. Maybe an unobtanium sphere ..... >>> >>> Ever seen electrical bulbs? Some are vacuum filled. >>> There were also electronic valves, CRT tubes... >> >> Well, as an experiment, WEIGH the glass envelope >> on those vac tubes ... then extrapolate that for >> a 200-foot flying vessel. >> >> Oh, both valves and old light-bulbs BREAK very >> easily. >> >> Modern incandescent bulbs are filled with argon. >> This is better and the gas/pressure helps suppress >> filament boil-off. > > I know. I happen to have one vacuum bulb at hand reach, and the bottom > part (the part facing the floor) is darkened by evaporated metal deposits. > >> >> Anyway, sorry, I just CAN'T see any sort of useful >> and safe vacuum blimp. One goose bumps into the >> thing and it will all implode in an instant. > > Oh, I know that vacuum filled blimps are impossible. > >> >> Hmmm ... MAYbe there can be a 'gas' lighter than >> hydrogen - some kind of exotic matter ? Perhaps >> some high electrostatic charge - center electrode >> and envelope both negatively charged, then the >> vacuum would not SEEM to be a vacuum so far as >> the structural components are concerned. Sounds >> kinda sparky alas. > > Force fields :-) Well ... show me one that's practical :-) In THEORY you could use positronium gas ... but if any of those electrons wander elsewhere ....
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-07 10:23 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <4198f596-fefe-319d-81e8-56a8b1bae1c0@example.net> |
| In reply to | #65243 |
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2025, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 2/6/25 5:53 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-02-06 04:19, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>> On 2/5/25 5:18 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-02-05 07:33, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>>>> On 2/4/25 4:02 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>>>>>>> Zeps are technically "better", but the framework >>>>>>>> is subject to stress and can snap - even if it >>>>>>>> was upgraded to titanium. Blimps spread the load >>>>>>>> across the entire envelope and can thus survive >>>>>>>> sudden wind gusts better. They may kinda fold >>>>>>>> and shimmy, but don't snap. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hmmmm ... maybe a 'hybrid' is possible now - >>>>>>>> a blimp, but 'stiffened' a bit with like >>>>>>>> graphite ribs so it's not SO floppy ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I heard about an experimental concept that does not use a gas for >>>>>>> lift, >>>>>>> but vacuum! Very fascinating! >>>>>> >>>>>> More theoretical than experimental - the materials might be >>>>>> possible but I don't think anyone can make them yet. >>>>> >>>>> Um, no, CAN'T be made. Ever SEEN any kind of vac >>>>> vessel even slightly compromised ? INSTANT total >>>>> CRUSH. Maybe an unobtanium sphere ..... >>>> >>>> Ever seen electrical bulbs? Some are vacuum filled. >>>> There were also electronic valves, CRT tubes... >>> >>> Well, as an experiment, WEIGH the glass envelope >>> on those vac tubes ... then extrapolate that for >>> a 200-foot flying vessel. >>> >>> Oh, both valves and old light-bulbs BREAK very >>> easily. >>> >>> Modern incandescent bulbs are filled with argon. >>> This is better and the gas/pressure helps suppress >>> filament boil-off. >> >> I know. I happen to have one vacuum bulb at hand reach, and the bottom part >> (the part facing the floor) is darkened by evaporated metal deposits. >> >>> >>> Anyway, sorry, I just CAN'T see any sort of useful >>> and safe vacuum blimp. One goose bumps into the >>> thing and it will all implode in an instant. >> >> Oh, I know that vacuum filled blimps are impossible. >> >>> >>> Hmmm ... MAYbe there can be a 'gas' lighter than >>> hydrogen - some kind of exotic matter ? Perhaps >>> some high electrostatic charge - center electrode >>> and envelope both negatively charged, then the >>> vacuum would not SEEM to be a vacuum so far as >>> the structural components are concerned. Sounds >>> kinda sparky alas. >> >> Force fields :-) > > Well ... show me one that's practical :-) > > In THEORY you could use positronium gas ... but > if any of those electrons wander elsewhere .... I once encountered a man on a mailinglist who was going to have this type of thing as his Ph.D. thesis. He said that he could probably solve this. I wonder if he will?
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 11:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <6479ece9-d714-69f9-00a8-f0aa7f30e16c@example.net> |
| In reply to | #65216 |
On Tue, 5 Feb 2025, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>> Zeps are technically "better", but the framework >>> is subject to stress and can snap - even if it >>> was upgraded to titanium. Blimps spread the load >>> across the entire envelope and can thus survive >>> sudden wind gusts better. They may kinda fold >>> and shimmy, but don't snap. >>> >>> Hmmmm ... maybe a 'hybrid' is possible now - >>> a blimp, but 'stiffened' a bit with like >>> graphite ribs so it's not SO floppy ? >> >> I heard about an experimental concept that does not use a gas for lift, >> but vacuum! Very fascinating! > > More theoretical than experimental - the materials might be > possible but I don't think anyone can make them yet. This is the truth!
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-03 10:38 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <20250203103843.0000459e@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #65137 |
On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 11:45:25 +0100 D <nospam@example.net> wrote: > > Same with airplanes. > > Damn it Lars! So that one is out too? ;) There's always ultralights - nothin' but a go-kart, a box fan, and a big ol' parasail. Depending on your local regulations, may not even need a license...!
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-03 20:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5uh77lx5nm.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #65173 |
On 2025-02-03 19:38, John Ames wrote: > On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 11:45:25 +0100 > D <nospam@example.net> wrote: > >>> Same with airplanes. >> >> Damn it Lars! So that one is out too? ;) > > There's always ultralights - nothin' but a go-kart, a box fan, and a > big ol' parasail. Depending on your local regulations, may not even > need a license...! > Forbidden in my entire area, because there is a military airport in the province. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-03 23:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <a077e079-96a8-0193-2e7c-830393f96ffb@example.net> |
| In reply to | #65174 |
On Mon, 3 Feb 2025, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-02-03 19:38, John Ames wrote: >> On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 11:45:25 +0100 >> D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >> >>>> Same with airplanes. >>> >>> Damn it Lars! So that one is out too? ;) >> >> There's always ultralights - nothin' but a go-kart, a box fan, and a >> big ol' parasail. Depending on your local regulations, may not even >> need a license...! >> > > Forbidden in my entire area, because there is a military airport in the > province. Easy. Equip it with rockets and shoot down any approaching aircraft! The spanish airforce sometimes trains close to my house in south eastern spain. I've never seen it myself but my father saw two planes flying through a low ravine once. Very powerful sight!
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 05:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m0dn9gFodp8U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #65183 |
On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 23:15:42 +0100, D wrote: > The spanish airforce sometimes trains close to my house in south eastern > spain. I've never seen it myself but my father saw two planes flying > through a low ravine once. Very powerful sight! I spent several winters in southern Arizona about 50 miles south of the Gila Bend AFB and the Cabeza Prieta Game Refuge / Barry Goldwater Bombing Range. They tended to play their reindeer games near the border. The refuge was a nice place to hike but you had to call up to see if they were planning to shoot the place up that day. I guess the wildlife got used to it.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 09:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vnsncl$1psvd$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #65183 |
On 03/02/2025 22:15, D wrote: > The spanish airforce sometimes trains close to my house in south eastern > spain. I've never seen it myself but my father saw two planes > flying through a low ravine once. Very powerful sight! If that turns you on google "Mach loop you tube" Looking down on aircraft dong 400mph+ with the observer holding up a sign saying 'hi mom'... -- “Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.” H.L. Mencken, A Mencken Chrestomathy
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 13:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ngc97lx3hk.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #65199 |
On 2025-02-04 10:41, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 03/02/2025 22:15, D wrote: > >> The spanish airforce sometimes trains close to my house in south >> eastern spain. I've never seen it myself but my father saw two planes >> flying through a low ravine once. Very powerful sight! > > If that turns you on google "Mach loop you tube" > > Looking down on aircraft dong 400mph+ with the observer holding up a > sign saying 'hi mom'... > Google finds several, but the first one I watched has that sign at the very end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9utt3tXHp0 https://machloop.co.uk/ -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 17:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <05466bdf-c6e4-14fe-257d-2f51a77e4de7@example.net> |
| In reply to | #65199 |
On Tue, 4 Feb 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 03/02/2025 22:15, D wrote: > >> The spanish airforce sometimes trains close to my house in south eastern >> spain. I've never seen it myself but my father saw two planes >> flying through a low ravine once. Very powerful sight! > > If that turns you on google "Mach loop you tube" > > Looking down on aircraft dong 400mph+ with the observer holding up a sign > saying 'hi mom'... Thank you, very beautiful!
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-03 23:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d517766b-68e3-2f2f-a1ad-aac320b4ab3f@example.net> |
| In reply to | #65173 |
On Mon, 3 Feb 2025, John Ames wrote: > On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 11:45:25 +0100 > D <nospam@example.net> wrote: > >>> Same with airplanes. >> >> Damn it Lars! So that one is out too? ;) > > There's always ultralights - nothin' but a go-kart, a box fan, and a > big ol' parasail. Depending on your local regulations, may not even > need a license...! Hah... I live in europe. You need a government license to breathe in europe. =(
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 00:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9idoP.2208279$FOb4.1325268@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #65182 |
On 2025-02-03, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: > On Mon, 3 Feb 2025, John Ames wrote: > >> On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 11:45:25 +0100 >> D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >> >>>> Same with airplanes. >>> >>> Damn it Lars! So that one is out too? ;) >> >> There's always ultralights - nothin' but a go-kart, a box fan, and a >> big ol' parasail. Depending on your local regulations, may not even >> need a license...! > > Hah... I live in europe. You need a government license to breathe in > europe. =( The other day we re-watched the movie version of _The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_ (RIP Alan Rickman) and I picked up a new favourite line. As our heroes attempted to negotiate the Vogon bureaucracy to save Trillian from being fed to the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal, Arthur Dent took the lead with the words: "I'm British. I know how to queue." -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-03 22:56 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <_-acnVu08PyaDTz6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #65185 |
On 2/3/25 7:36 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-02-03, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: > >> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025, John Ames wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 11:45:25 +0100 >>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >>> >>>>> Same with airplanes. >>>> >>>> Damn it Lars! So that one is out too? ;) >>> >>> There's always ultralights - nothin' but a go-kart, a box fan, and a >>> big ol' parasail. Depending on your local regulations, may not even >>> need a license...! >> >> Hah... I live in europe. You need a government license to breathe in >> europe. =( > > The other day we re-watched the movie version of _The Hitchhiker's Guide > to the Galaxy_ (RIP Alan Rickman) and I picked up a new favourite line. > As our heroes attempted to negotiate the Vogon bureaucracy to save Trillian > from being fed to the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal, Arthur Dent took > the lead with the words: "I'm British. I know how to queue. That WAS a good line, and probably tells us a lot about Brits :-) Still liked the old BBC series better - found it on a discounted DVD ! Contained more jewels of wisdom from Adams.
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| From | Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 09:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <hn96qjhkukfmol324f50mt3nfsi7v6m5qs@joergwalther.my-fqdn.de> |
| In reply to | #65191 |
WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: > Still liked the old BBC series better - found > it on a discounted DVD ! Contained more jewels > of wisdom from Adams. The old series is WAY better than the movie, and btw, it's out on BluRay now, with much better picture and with additional material, can't recommend this enough. -jw- -- And now for something completely different...
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 19:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <31PoP.609495$px2.12770@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #65191 |
On 2025-02-04, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote: > On 2/3/25 7:36 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> The other day we re-watched the movie version of _The Hitchhiker's Guide >> to the Galaxy_ (RIP Alan Rickman) and I picked up a new favourite line. >> As our heroes attempted to negotiate the Vogon bureaucracy to save Trillian >> from being fed to the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal, Arthur Dent took >> the lead with the words: "I'm British. I know how to queue. > > That WAS a good line, and probably tells us a > lot about Brits :-) > > Still liked the old BBC series better - found > it on a discounted DVD ! Contained more jewels > of wisdom from Adams. I'll have to dig it out again and give it another look. Fun fact: the robot that played Marvin in the old series appears (as an anonymous robot) in the movie, in the scene I mentioned above. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 22:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <DD2dnTURqquvtjn6nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #65226 |
On 2/5/25 2:32 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-02-04, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote: > >> On 2/3/25 7:36 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> The other day we re-watched the movie version of _The Hitchhiker's Guide >>> to the Galaxy_ (RIP Alan Rickman) and I picked up a new favourite line. >>> As our heroes attempted to negotiate the Vogon bureaucracy to save Trillian >>> from being fed to the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal, Arthur Dent took >>> the lead with the words: "I'm British. I know how to queue. >> >> That WAS a good line, and probably tells us a >> lot about Brits :-) >> >> Still liked the old BBC series better - found >> it on a discounted DVD ! Contained more jewels >> of wisdom from Adams. > > I'll have to dig it out again and give it another look. > > Fun fact: the robot that played Marvin in the old series appears > (as an anonymous robot) in the movie, in the scene I mentioned above. Ah yes, I spotted him in the crowd :-) The BBC series was fairly low-budget and 'crude', but, IMHO, better than the slick movie version.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-06 04:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ScXoP.308269$zX7.15080@fx37.iad> |
| In reply to | #65228 |
On 2025-02-06, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote: > On 2/5/25 2:32 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> On 2025-02-04, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote: >> >>> On 2/3/25 7:36 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>>> The other day we re-watched the movie version of _The Hitchhiker's Guide >>>> to the Galaxy_ (RIP Alan Rickman) and I picked up a new favourite line. >>>> As our heroes attempted to negotiate the Vogon bureaucracy to save Trillian >>>> from being fed to the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal, Arthur Dent took >>>> the lead with the words: "I'm British. I know how to queue. >>> >>> That WAS a good line, and probably tells us a >>> lot about Brits :-) >>> >>> Still liked the old BBC series better - found >>> it on a discounted DVD ! Contained more jewels >>> of wisdom from Adams. >> >> I'll have to dig it out again and give it another look. >> >> Fun fact: the robot that played Marvin in the old series appears >> (as an anonymous robot) in the movie, in the scene I mentioned above. > > Ah yes, I spotted him in the crowd :-) > > The BBC series was fairly low-budget and 'crude', > but, IMHO, better than the slick movie version. Perhaps, but you have to admit that the scene on the Magrathea factory floor is magnificent in the new version. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-06 00:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8eSdnYjKeo7t0Tn6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #65229 |
On 2/5/25 11:50 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-02-06, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote: > >> On 2/5/25 2:32 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> On 2025-02-04, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2/3/25 7:36 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> >>>>> The other day we re-watched the movie version of _The Hitchhiker's Guide >>>>> to the Galaxy_ (RIP Alan Rickman) and I picked up a new favourite line. >>>>> As our heroes attempted to negotiate the Vogon bureaucracy to save Trillian >>>>> from being fed to the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal, Arthur Dent took >>>>> the lead with the words: "I'm British. I know how to queue. >>>> >>>> That WAS a good line, and probably tells us a >>>> lot about Brits :-) >>>> >>>> Still liked the old BBC series better - found >>>> it on a discounted DVD ! Contained more jewels >>>> of wisdom from Adams. >>> >>> I'll have to dig it out again and give it another look. >>> >>> Fun fact: the robot that played Marvin in the old series appears >>> (as an anonymous robot) in the movie, in the scene I mentioned above. >> >> Ah yes, I spotted him in the crowd :-) >> >> The BBC series was fairly low-budget and 'crude', >> but, IMHO, better than the slick movie version. > > Perhaps, but you have to admit that the scene on the Magrathea > factory floor is magnificent in the new version. That WAS magnificent, perhaps the best scene in the movie. BBC didn't have the budget or tech for that I am a bit saddened at how special effects have come to drive film/TV. Even if not as spiffy, good dialogue and plot structure made for a better product. Was watching a Jon Pertwee "Dr. Who" the other day. Very low budget - but it still worked quite well, told a good story.
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| From | Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> |
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| Date | 2025-02-06 18:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d8r9qjpak5cmr3le25r0tbefg853rcbfng@joergwalther.my-fqdn.de> |
| In reply to | #65230 |
WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: > That WAS magnificent, perhaps the best scene > in the movie. BBC didn't have the budget or > tech for that There was no tech involved in the making of the special effects, this was all hand-drawn in a slow, painstaking process, picture by picture. The guy who made this later won a prize for this. When I watched it for the first time as a kid I thought this was computer-generated... -jw- -- And now for something completely different...
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-06 20:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <l59pP.35417$ikh8.2019@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #65230 |
On 2025-02-06, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote: > On 2/5/25 11:50 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> On 2025-02-06, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote: >> >>> On 2/5/25 2:32 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>>> On 2025-02-04, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2/3/25 7:36 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The other day we re-watched the movie version of _The Hitchhiker's >>>>>> Guide to the Galaxy_ (RIP Alan Rickman) and I picked up a new >>>>>> favourite line. As our heroes attempted to negotiate the Vogon >>>>>> bureaucracy to save Trillian from being fed to the Ravenous >>>>>> Bugblatter Beast of Traal, Arthur Dent took the lead with the >>>>>> words: "I'm British. I know how to queue." >>>>> >>>>> That WAS a good line, and probably tells us a >>>>> lot about Brits :-) >>>>> >>>>> Still liked the old BBC series better - found >>>>> it on a discounted DVD ! Contained more jewels >>>>> of wisdom from Adams. >>>> >>>> I'll have to dig it out again and give it another look. >>>> >>>> Fun fact: the robot that played Marvin in the old series appears >>>> (as an anonymous robot) in the movie, in the scene I mentioned above. >>> >>> Ah yes, I spotted him in the crowd :-) >>> >>> The BBC series was fairly low-budget and 'crude', >>> but, IMHO, better than the slick movie version. >> >> Perhaps, but you have to admit that the scene on the Magrathea >> factory floor is magnificent in the new version. > > That WAS magnificent, perhaps the best scene > in the movie. I think so. I eagerly await it each time I watch the movie. > BBC didn't have the budget or tech for that > > I am a bit saddened at how special effects > have come to drive film/TV. Even if not as > spiffy, good dialogue and plot structure > made for a better product. Indeed. It's a shame when there are all sorts of wonderful effects with nothing to back them up. > Was watching a Jon Pertwee "Dr. Who" the > other day. Very low budget - but it still > worked quite well, told a good story. We found the original Doctor Who episodes on one of the streaming services (Prime, I think) and have been working our way through them. They actually hold together reasonably well. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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