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WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux?

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  WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? tinker123 <tinker123@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 13:44 +0000
    Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-06 14:56 +0100
    Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-06 16:47 +0200
      Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-07 11:44 +0100
        Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-07 12:54 +0200
          Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-07 12:39 +0100
            Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-07 14:43 +0200
              Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-07-07 14:09 +0100
                Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-07 14:50 +0100
                Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-12 15:35 +0200
              Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-07 14:48 +0100
                Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-07 20:01 +0200
                  Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-07 19:51 +0100
                    Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-07-08 15:03 +0300
                    Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-08 02:52 +0200
              Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-07-12 21:05 -0400
    Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-07 11:43 +0100
      Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-07-11 09:10 +1000
    Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2024-07-07 11:34 -0400
      Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-07 16:44 +0100
    Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Richard <rkm@nowhere.com> - 2024-07-08 06:55 -0400
      Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2024-07-09 05:39 -0400
        Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-09 16:00 +0100
          Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-09 16:25 +0100
            Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-07-09 17:26 +0100
              Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-09 17:36 +0100
              Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-07-09 21:27 +0100
            Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2024-07-09 12:54 -0400
    Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-14 08:48 +0000

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#56801

On 7/6/24 09:44, tinker123 wrote:
> I never had a WiFi enabled cable modem or a WiFi router.
> 
> I'm guessing some configuration is involved like setting a name,
> usernames, and passwords.  Which of either type of hardware is friendly
> to Linux.  Actually provides configuration software that runs on Linux
> or another easy means of configuring the WiFi?
> 
> In regards to a WiFi enable cable modem I was thinking of buying a
> highly rated model, but from a few years ago to save a few pennies.
> 
> Any information or tips will be appreciated.

I bought the TP-Link AX1800 WiFi router. It was easy to set up
in Linux, it provides a web link to configure the router.

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#56851

On 7/8/24 6:55 AM, Richard wrote:
> it provides a web link to configure the router.


that is often bad it that link is through a cloud service.

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#56860

On 2024-07-09, Popping Mad wrote:

> On 7/8/24 6:55 AM, Richard wrote:
>> it provides a web link to configure the router.
>
>
> that is often bad it that link is through a cloud service.

What!? So far I've only seen web admin interfaces that are on LAN
addresses. Which manufacturers are doing that?

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#56861

Nuno Silva wrote:

> Popping Mad wrote:
>
>> that is often bad it that link is through a cloud service.
> 
> What!? So far I've only seen web admin interfaces that are on LAN
> addresses. Which manufacturers are doing that?

Not my own, but I've seen a Linksys mesh system that requires you to 
create a cloud account, then use a mobile app to login to the cloud 
configure the devices ...

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#56862

On 09/07/2024 16:25, Andy Burns wrote:
> Nuno Silva wrote:
> 
>> Popping Mad wrote:
>>
>>> that is often bad it that link is through a cloud service.
>>
>> What!? So far I've only seen web admin interfaces that are on LAN
>> addresses. Which manufacturers are doing that?
> 
> Not my own, but I've seen a Linksys mesh system that requires you to 
> create a cloud account, then use a mobile app to login to the cloud 
> configure the devices ...
> 

My Mercusys Mesh Wifi System only has a Cloud UI.

It is irritating, but the System was cheap, the WiFi connectivity and 
speed are good, and there isn't too much I need to configure or examine 
for just WiFi.

I wouldn't even begin to consider using a device with Cloud UI as a 
router/gateway.

I also have a WiFi switch (Shelly) with a Cloud UI, which is annoying. I 
will replace it, when I can find a sensible alternative device.

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#56863

Pancho wrote:

> I wouldn't even begin to consider using a device with Cloud UI as a 
> router/gateway.

No I wouldn't for myself

> I also have a WiFi switch (Shelly) with a Cloud UI, which is annoying. I 
> will replace it, when I can find a sensible alternative device.

Can't you replace the firmware on Shelly devices with an open version?

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#56867

On 09/07/2024 17:26, Pancho wrote:
> On 09/07/2024 16:25, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Nuno Silva wrote:
>>
>>> Popping Mad wrote:
>>>
>>>> that is often bad it that link is through a cloud service.
>>>
>>> What!? So far I've only seen web admin interfaces that are on LAN
>>> addresses. Which manufacturers are doing that?
>>
>> Not my own, but I've seen a Linksys mesh system that requires you to 
>> create a cloud account, then use a mobile app to login to the cloud 
>> configure the devices ...
>>
> 
> My Mercusys Mesh Wifi System only has a Cloud UI.
> 

Actually, this is misleading. The Mesh WiFi is controlled by an app on 
my Android Phone. It isn't a cloud service. The phone app normally 
connects to a cloud web server when I run it, but it doesn't need to. It 
controls the WiFi access points via the WLAN. It also works when the 
phone is cut off from the WAN/Mobile provider.

My WiFi access points are fire wall blocked from the WAN. A LAN IP can 
route to the WAN through a WiFi access point, but a WiFi access point's 
own IP has no external WAN access.

I guess this isn't as bad as I made it seem. Maybe they do it because it 
was cheaper to develop an Android UI than it was to develop a Web UI.

Security wise, it may be no worse than a locked down local web-server 
interface. I'm not smart enough to know.

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#56864

On 2024-07-09 11:25 a.m., Andy Burns wrote:
> Nuno Silva wrote:
> 
>> Popping Mad wrote:
>>
>>> that is often bad it that link is through a cloud service.
>>
>> What!? So far I've only seen web admin interfaces that are on LAN
>> addresses. Which manufacturers are doing that?
> 
> Not my own, but I've seen a Linksys mesh system that requires you to
> create a cloud account, then use a mobile app to login to the cloud
> configure the devices ...

Eero is the same.  Their mobile app is required to manage their stuff
through the cloud.  Apparently it's a feature in some people's eyes.

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#56943

tinker123 <tinker123@gmail.com> writes:
> I never had a WiFi enabled cable modem or a WiFi router.
> 
> I'm guessing some configuration is involved like setting a name,
> usernames, and passwords.  Which of either type of hardware is friendly
> to Linux.  Actually provides configuration software that runs on Linux
> or another easy means of configuring the WiFi?
> 
> In regards to a WiFi enable cable modem I was thinking of buying a
> highly rated model, but from a few years ago to save a few pennies.
> 
> Any information or tips will be appreciated.

Most WiFi momes/routers have an inbuilt 'website' which allows tou select 
what it is you want to configure, both LAN and other stuff like the WiFi with
various GUI 'pages' or tabs.

That allows you to set up things like the WiFi Server name (SSID) that you
see when you run something like your Network Manager to select the WiFi
Sserver you want out of the dozen or so in the nearby locality. And also the
security password to keep undesirables out.

You can restrict who is allowed to log in to the WiFi and lots of other
goodies like that. So that if the password becomes open knowledge, the
actual machine has to be permitted by the router before it is allowed to log on.

Dig up the manual for your particular Modem/Router, and just follow the
instructions.

It's actually quite simple. Keep a record of your current settings and any
changes you make. Six months down the track, you won't be able to rely on
your memory of the various settings.

Regards,

Jack

-- 
I have read so much about the dangers of tobacco, alcohol
and gambling, I made up my mind to stop reading.

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