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| Started by | Todd <Todd@invalid.com> |
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| First post | 2011-04-18 19:16 -0700 |
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What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 19:16 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2011-04-19 02:42 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 19:51 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2011-04-19 04:27 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 21:44 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Kevin Snodgrass <kdsnodgrass@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-20 03:11 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-20 10:56 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? goarilla <kevin.paulus@mtm.DOTremove-thisDOT.kuleuven.DOTbe.invalid> - 2011-04-29 11:46 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 19:52 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2011-04-19 03:45 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 21:04 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2011-04-18 23:39 -0400
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2011-04-19 02:53 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 20:25 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-18 23:05 -0500
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 21:20 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? notbob <notbob@notbob.invalid> - 2011-04-19 14:11 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 15:23 +0100
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? notbob <notbob@notbob.invalid> - 2011-04-19 15:02 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-19 11:11 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? notbob <notbob@notbob.invalid> - 2011-04-19 18:54 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 22:20 +0100
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2011-04-19 04:18 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Loki Harfagr <l0k1@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID> - 2011-04-19 10:03 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Tim Watts <tw@dionic.net> - 2011-04-19 07:09 +0100
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-19 11:15 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? notbob <notbob@notbob.invalid> - 2011-04-19 18:57 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-18 22:48 -0500
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-18 22:48 -0500
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-18 21:00 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Tim Watts <tw@dionic.net> - 2011-04-19 07:02 +0100
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2011-04-19 14:37 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-19 11:16 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2011-04-19 19:25 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-19 15:55 -0500
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-20 10:58 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Stan Bischof <stan@worldbadminton.com> - 2011-04-19 16:12 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? notbob <notbob@notbob.invalid> - 2011-04-19 16:58 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 18:52 +0100
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? notbob <notbob@notbob.invalid> - 2011-04-19 18:53 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-19 11:22 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Loki Harfagr <l0k1@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID> - 2011-04-19 18:36 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-19 12:24 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Loki Harfagr <l0k1@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID> - 2011-04-20 10:02 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? notbob <notbob@notbob.invalid> - 2011-04-20 12:52 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Loki Harfagr <l0k1@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID> - 2011-04-20 16:57 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-20 11:05 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Bud <Bud@bud.invalid.msn.com> - 2011-04-20 21:23 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? notbob <notbob@notbob.invalid> - 2011-04-20 21:25 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-20 18:51 -0500
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Bud <Bud@bud.invalid.msn.com> - 2011-04-21 20:25 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-19 11:18 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-19 15:55 -0500
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-20 11:07 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 17:14 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 18:53 +0100
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2011-04-21 12:17 -0400
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-21 11:31 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? notbob <notbob@notbob.invalid> - 2011-04-21 18:37 +0000
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-21 12:27 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2011-04-21 18:01 -0400
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-22 17:43 +0100
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2011-04-22 21:27 -0400
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-22 12:33 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-22 15:59 -0500
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-22 14:45 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-22 19:50 -0500
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-04-22 12:50 +0100
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? Todd <Todd@invalid.com> - 2011-04-22 13:15 -0700
Re: What kinds of business use Linux? William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-04-23 11:07 +0100
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| From | TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> |
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| Date | 2011-04-21 18:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ioq9ft$106$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #865 |
On 04/21/2011 02:31 PM, Todd wrote: > On 04/21/2011 09:17 AM, TJ wrote: >> >> Sorry, can't help you much. I run my business on Linux, but I'm a farmer >> and something of an oddball. I provide all my own support. When it comes >> to IT stuff, if I can't do it myself it won't get done. >> >> <Shrug.> I couldn't afford a consultant if I wanted one, anyway. >> >> I will tell you that I use The Gimp to prepare a color-coded map of the >> crops I plant, overlaid on a satellite photo of the farm. I need to >> supply the USDA with this information to assure them I qualify for >> various programs. The guys in the USDA office say that my map is the >> best, easiest to read one they get, and that includes some prepared with >> expensive Windows software. >> >> TJ > > Hi TJ, > > You are truly unusual. The farmers and ranchers out here refuse > to use computers. Plus, if you have mastered GIMP, you are got me > bested but good! > > Do you do your accounting on Linux? and, if so, what program(s) > are you using? > > -T "Mastered" is too strong a word for my abilities with GIMP. I had a need, and learned what I needed to fill it. That's about it. Well, I did use it a few years ago to restore a couple of 30-year-old photos as presents for my mother, but that's not exactly business-related. I'm the third generation of my family to run this farm, and like most farmers who do their own accounting, I run it on a cash basis. I use an accounting system originally developed by my mother back when she and my father ran the farm, essentially an elaborate single-entry system. Where she used columnar paper I use OpenOffice (soon LibreOffice) Calc. Of course I have adapted her system to our present situation. Last year, when my brother and I formed a partnership, I looked into using Gnucash, but finally decided to stick with the system I know, and adapted it yet again. Operating on a cash basis and being debt-free, my accounting needs are simple. That, too, makes me something of an oddball when it comes to business. Mom's system is quite adequate. But if I needed something more, I'd be using Gnucash. Oh, and I wouldn't be quite so quick to dismiss your local farmers as Luddites when it comes to computers. There may be more using them than you think. You'd be surprised. TJ
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2011-04-22 17:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <iosb6o$8hq$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #869 |
TJ wrote: > On 04/21/2011 02:31 PM, Todd wrote: >> On 04/21/2011 09:17 AM, TJ wrote: > >>> >>> Sorry, can't help you much. I run my business on Linux, but I'm a farmer >>> and something of an oddball. I provide all my own support. When it comes >>> to IT stuff, if I can't do it myself it won't get done. >>> >>> <Shrug.> I couldn't afford a consultant if I wanted one, anyway. >>> >>> I will tell you that I use The Gimp to prepare a color-coded map of the >>> crops I plant, overlaid on a satellite photo of the farm. I need to >>> supply the USDA with this information to assure them I qualify for >>> various programs. The guys in the USDA office say that my map is the >>> best, easiest to read one they get, and that includes some prepared with >>> expensive Windows software. >>> >>> TJ >> >> Hi TJ, >> >> You are truly unusual. The farmers and ranchers out here refuse >> to use computers. Plus, if you have mastered GIMP, you are got me >> bested but good! >> >> Do you do your accounting on Linux? and, if so, what program(s) >> are you using? >> >> -T > "Mastered" is too strong a word for my abilities with GIMP. I had a > need, and learned what I needed to fill it. That's about it. Well, I did > use it a few years ago to restore a couple of 30-year-old photos as > presents for my mother, but that's not exactly business-related. > > I'm the third generation of my family to run this farm, and like most > farmers who do their own accounting, I run it on a cash basis. I use an > accounting system originally developed by my mother back when she and my > father ran the farm, essentially an elaborate single-entry system. Where > she used columnar paper I use OpenOffice (soon LibreOffice) Calc. > > Of course I have adapted her system to our present situation. Last year, > when my brother and I formed a partnership, I looked into using Gnucash, > but finally decided to stick with the system I know, and adapted it yet > again. > > Operating on a cash basis and being debt-free, my accounting needs are > simple. That, too, makes me something of an oddball when it comes to > business. Mom's system is quite adequate. But if I needed something > more, I'd be using Gnucash. > > Oh, and I wouldn't be quite so quick to dismiss your local farmers as > Luddites when it comes to computers. There may be more using them than > you think. You'd be surprised. > In the UK, if you can't use one, you hire a consultant who can. The come round take soil samples, analyse the weather, look at infestation rates, potential crop futures prices, all into one big spreadsheet and that spits out the optimum yield per unit spray of herbicide, pesticide and fertiliser needed, figures. Its highly technical these days. Even the harvester can monitor moisture levels in the grain when harvesting and is robotically steered via GPS.. > TJ
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| From | TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> |
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| Date | 2011-04-22 21:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <iot9un$u9m$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #873 |
On 04/22/2011 12:43 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > TJ wrote: >> On 04/21/2011 02:31 PM, Todd wrote: >>> On 04/21/2011 09:17 AM, TJ wrote: >> >>>> >>>> Sorry, can't help you much. I run my business on Linux, but I'm a >>>> farmer >>>> and something of an oddball. I provide all my own support. When it >>>> comes >>>> to IT stuff, if I can't do it myself it won't get done. >>>> >>>> <Shrug.> I couldn't afford a consultant if I wanted one, anyway. >>>> >>>> I will tell you that I use The Gimp to prepare a color-coded map of the >>>> crops I plant, overlaid on a satellite photo of the farm. I need to >>>> supply the USDA with this information to assure them I qualify for >>>> various programs. The guys in the USDA office say that my map is the >>>> best, easiest to read one they get, and that includes some prepared >>>> with >>>> expensive Windows software. >>>> >>>> TJ >>> >>> Hi TJ, >>> >>> You are truly unusual. The farmers and ranchers out here refuse >>> to use computers. Plus, if you have mastered GIMP, you are got me >>> bested but good! >>> >>> Do you do your accounting on Linux? and, if so, what program(s) >>> are you using? >>> >>> -T >> "Mastered" is too strong a word for my abilities with GIMP. I had a >> need, and learned what I needed to fill it. That's about it. Well, I >> did use it a few years ago to restore a couple of 30-year-old photos >> as presents for my mother, but that's not exactly business-related. >> >> I'm the third generation of my family to run this farm, and like most >> farmers who do their own accounting, I run it on a cash basis. I use >> an accounting system originally developed by my mother back when she >> and my father ran the farm, essentially an elaborate single-entry >> system. Where she used columnar paper I use OpenOffice (soon >> LibreOffice) Calc. >> >> Of course I have adapted her system to our present situation. Last >> year, when my brother and I formed a partnership, I looked into using >> Gnucash, but finally decided to stick with the system I know, and >> adapted it yet again. >> >> Operating on a cash basis and being debt-free, my accounting needs are >> simple. That, too, makes me something of an oddball when it comes to >> business. Mom's system is quite adequate. But if I needed something >> more, I'd be using Gnucash. >> >> Oh, and I wouldn't be quite so quick to dismiss your local farmers as >> Luddites when it comes to computers. There may be more using them than >> you think. You'd be surprised. >> > In the UK, if you can't use one, you hire a consultant who can. > > The come round take soil samples, analyse the weather, look at > infestation rates, potential crop futures prices, all into one big > spreadsheet and that spits out the optimum yield per unit spray of > herbicide, pesticide and fertiliser needed, figures. > > Its highly technical these days. Even the harvester can monitor moisture > levels in the grain when harvesting and is robotically steered via GPS.. > Yep, and it's robotically steered so the wheels don't go in the same spots as the previous piece of equipment, to prevent soil compaction from repeated trips. That fertilizer applicator can be programmed to apply just the right amount for a particular spot, rather than the old, wasteful way of applying the same rate all over the field. Or it will if you're big enough to afford all that stuff. I'm not. So I get my weather predictions from NOAA and the local TV stations and watch the local Doppler radar loops to try to figure for myself if that storm is gonna hit here or go on by. And I use Internet shopping skills to find the best deals on the things I buy. And I do much of my banking online because I can do it that way in five minutes and it kills a good hour to go to the brick-and-mortar bank. And I can find booksful of information on just about anything far faster and easier than I ever could before search engines. And it's fun. Don't forget that. Even a small farmer has a use for fun. TJ
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| From | Todd <Todd@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-22 12:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <iosl60$gr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #869 |
On 04/21/2011 03:01 PM, TJ wrote: > Where she used columnar paper I use OpenOffice (soon LibreOffice) Calc. Libra Office (LO) is cleaning up Open Office (OO) at a rapid pace. OO drives me nuts: I have an EIGHT year old bug on it that they have just started to work on. I am starting to enjoy using LO. > > Oh, and I wouldn't be quite so quick to dismiss your local farmers as > Luddites when it comes to computers. There may be more using them than > you think. You'd be surprised. Now, I did not say "Luddite". Okay, okay, I might have thought it, just a little, but I DID NOT SAY IT! I come in contact with farmers/ranchers at an animal pharmacy I work for (Quickbook, so no Linux there). As a group I would say they are very nice folks. I would love to pick some of them up as customers. I do have a hay farmer across the state as a customer. Hay Manager (M$ Access) and Quick Books: so, again, no Linux. Since I won't drive five hours to get to him, he has to mail his two computers back to me whenever they go foo bar. Most of what I do for him is Go To Assist. It is really bad service to make him send his stuff back to me, but he prefers me over the local guys, so I guess it is a compliment. I feel bad about the poor service, but they reassure me it is okay. Very nice folks. Am very happy to have him as a customer. On the Quick Books (QB) front: it is the main Linux killer I face in business. QB uses a proprietary database from hell that only runs on M$ OS'es. And, since, QB 2006, it will only run poorly from a Samba server in single user mode -- it is on purpose. QB has a single and a multiuser mode. Don't ask. It is really unprofessional and down right stupid. I tell Intuit so frequently. It does mean I can not use a Linux server. -T
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| From | Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-22 15:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8K-dnQINvPOkcSzQnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@posted.localnet> |
| In reply to | #874 |
At Fri, 22 Apr 2011 12:33:13 -0700 Todd <Todd@invalid.com> wrote:
>
> On 04/21/2011 03:01 PM, TJ wrote:
> > Where she used columnar paper I use OpenOffice (soon LibreOffice) Calc.
>
> Libra Office (LO) is cleaning up Open Office (OO) at a rapid
> pace. OO drives me nuts: I have an EIGHT year old bug on it
> that they have just started to work on. I am starting to
> enjoy using LO.
>
> >
> > Oh, and I wouldn't be quite so quick to dismiss your local farmers as
> > Luddites when it comes to computers. There may be more using them than
> > you think. You'd be surprised.
>
> Now, I did not say "Luddite". Okay, okay, I might have thought it,
> just a little, but I DID NOT SAY IT!
>
> I come in contact with farmers/ranchers at an animal pharmacy I
> work for (Quickbook, so no Linux there). As a group I would
> say they are very nice folks. I would love to pick some of them
> up as customers.
>
> I do have a hay farmer across the state as a customer. Hay
> Manager (M$ Access) and Quick Books: so, again, no Linux.
> Since I won't drive five hours to get to him, he has to
> mail his two computers back to me whenever they go foo bar.
> Most of what I do for him is Go To Assist. It is really
> bad service to make him send his stuff back to me, but he
> prefers me over the local guys, so I guess it is a compliment.
> I feel bad about the poor service, but they reassure me it
> is okay. Very nice folks. Am very happy to have him
> as a customer.
>
> On the Quick Books (QB) front: it is the main Linux killer
> I face in business. QB uses a proprietary database
> from hell that only runs on M$ OS'es. And, since,
> QB 2006, it will only run poorly from a Samba server
> in single user mode -- it is on purpose. QB has a single
> and a multiuser mode. Don't ask. It is really unprofessional
> and down right stupid. I tell Intuit so frequently. It
> does mean I can not use a Linux server.
Intuit is in the same "boat" as M$ (and to a lesser extent Adobe).
Because of their (broken) business model, they need to make things
'hard' -- they need to do this keep themselves in business. If QB ran
well in single user mode from a Samba server, who would bother with
their multiuser mode?
Over in the GnuCash user mailling list, lots of people bitch and moan
about Quick Books and/or Quicken -- Intuit has a nasty license game
going on -- you have to fork over the annual 'rent' to get updated tax
tables and whatnot -- because of this and other stuff Intuit does
wrong, there is a slow, but steady 'migration' away from QB to GnuCash.
While GnuCash does not have a multiuser mode (yet) nor does it have
payrol or inventory features (yet), it does work extremely well as a
business or personal double-entry bookkeeping system.
>
> -T
>
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| From | Todd <Todd@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-22 14:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <iossto$u9d$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #878 |
On 04/22/2011 01:59 PM, Robert Heller wrote: >> On the Quick Books (QB) front: it is the main Linux killer >> I face in business. QB uses a proprietary database >> from hell that only runs on M$ OS'es. And, since, >> QB 2006, it will only run poorly from a Samba server >> in single user mode -- it is on purpose. QB has a single >> and a multiuser mode. Don't ask. It is really unprofessional >> and down right stupid. I tell Intuit so frequently. It >> does mean I can not use a Linux server. > > Intuit is in the same "boat" as M$ (and to a lesser extent Adobe). > Because of their (broken) business model, they need to make things > 'hard' -- they need to do this keep themselves in business. If QB ran > well in single user mode from a Samba server, who would bother with > their multiuser mode? And if Intuit used MySQL or PostgreSQL you could write your own screens with Glom or Approach. I don't see why they care. They don't offer custom programming anyway. But, oh my gosh, someone just might ... > > Over in the GnuCash user mailling list, lots of people bitch and moan > about Quick Books and/or Quicken -- Intuit has a nasty license game > going on -- you have to fork over the annual 'rent' to get updated tax > tables and whatnot -- because of this and other stuff Intuit does > wrong, there is a slow, but steady 'migration' away from QB to GnuCash. > While GnuCash does not have a multiuser mode (yet) nor does it have > payrol or inventory features (yet), it does work extremely well as a > business or personal double-entry bookkeeping system. Ouch. Payroll and Inventory are two features required by a lot of businesses. My guess is that Intuit sells QB under what it costs and then nickel and dimes you to death making up for it. It is as cheap to buy a new version with the free years payroll then to upgrade your payroll. I do believe their nick name is Quick Bucks. And don't ever, never ever, never, never, never ever buy Intuit's Point of Sale service! It is H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E. Try sending a parts invoice to a location that has multiple locations and you get a separate line entry for every location's sales tax! And, so on and so forth! I would love a way around Quick Bucks. But, the customer does not want to relearn anything and they want to use any accountant in the phone book. -T
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| From | Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-22 19:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <NOydnYkhEPLtvy_QnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@posted.localnet> |
| In reply to | #880 |
At Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:45:18 -0700 Todd <Todd@invalid.com> wrote: > > On 04/22/2011 01:59 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > >> On the Quick Books (QB) front: it is the main Linux killer > >> I face in business. QB uses a proprietary database > >> from hell that only runs on M$ OS'es. And, since, > >> QB 2006, it will only run poorly from a Samba server > >> in single user mode -- it is on purpose. QB has a single > >> and a multiuser mode. Don't ask. It is really unprofessional > >> and down right stupid. I tell Intuit so frequently. It > >> does mean I can not use a Linux server. > > > > Intuit is in the same "boat" as M$ (and to a lesser extent Adobe). > > Because of their (broken) business model, they need to make things > > 'hard' -- they need to do this keep themselves in business. If QB ran > > well in single user mode from a Samba server, who would bother with > > their multiuser mode? > > And if Intuit used MySQL or PostgreSQL you could write your own screens > with Glom or Approach. I don't see why they care. They don't offer > custom programming anyway. But, oh my gosh, someone just might ... > > > > > Over in the GnuCash user mailling list, lots of people bitch and moan > > about Quick Books and/or Quicken -- Intuit has a nasty license game > > going on -- you have to fork over the annual 'rent' to get updated tax > > tables and whatnot -- because of this and other stuff Intuit does > > wrong, there is a slow, but steady 'migration' away from QB to GnuCash. > > While GnuCash does not have a multiuser mode (yet) nor does it have > > payrol or inventory features (yet), it does work extremely well as a > > business or personal double-entry bookkeeping system. > > Ouch. Payroll and Inventory are two features required by a lot > of businesses. GnuCash is open source. All it really takes is someone who needs these features and has some programming skill to write the modules... > > My guess is that Intuit sells QB under what it costs and then > nickel and dimes you to death making up for it. It is as cheap > to buy a new version with the free years payroll then to upgrade > your payroll. I do believe their nick name is Quick Bucks. > > And don't ever, never ever, never, never, never ever buy Intuit's > Point of Sale service! It is H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E. Try sending a parts > invoice to a location that has multiple locations and you get > a separate line entry for every location's sales tax! And, so on and > so forth! Ouch! > > I would love a way around Quick Bucks. But, the customer does not > want to relearn anything and they want to use any accountant > in the phone book. > > -T > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / heller@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments
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| From | William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> |
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| Date | 2011-04-22 12:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <hl6888-rfi.ln1@linuxnetwork.alpha.org> |
| In reply to | #793 |
Todd wrote: > Hi All, > > I am a consultant who only works in two counties. > I am currently working my way out of two jobs, > which is normal. Also means I have to do some > cold calling, also normal. And to facilitate > that, I have made up a database of local businesses. > I work both Linux and Windows. (The occasional Apple > too, but you did not hear me say that.) > > I really do not feel like the *aggravation* of having > to maintain any more Windows installations: low quality > software that almost works and has to be fussed with > 20 times more than a Linux installation. And customer > who are never very happy with the way things mostly work. > > This may seems like a weird question, when I am sifting > through my lists of businesses, does anyone have an tips > as to what kinds of businesses use Linux? I would > like to directly target those kinds of businesses > before settling from more Windows work. > > Any tips would be greatly appreciated. > > Many thanks, > -T Might be of interest? http://www.indeed.co.uk/jobs?q=linux&l= -- XPN :: http://xpn.altervista.org "Microsoft has vast resources, literally billions of dollars in cash, or liquid assets reserves. Microsoft is an incredibly successful empire built on the premise of market dominance with low-quality goods." -- Former White House adviser Richard A. Clarke --
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| From | Todd <Todd@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-22 13:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <iosnlc$sts$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #871 |
On 04/22/2011 04:50 AM, William Poaster wrote: > Might be of interest? > http://www.indeed.co.uk/jobs?q=linux&l= Thank you. Great tip. I will try poking around the local job site. Maybe someone will be interesting in a private contractor, rather than hiring an employee. We can be a lot cheaper to use. Not to mention easier to fire! :'( -T
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| From | William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> |
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| Date | 2011-04-23 11:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d0la88-gaf.ln1@linuxnetwork.alpha.org> |
| In reply to | #875 |
Todd wrote: > On 04/22/2011 04:50 AM, William Poaster wrote: >> Might be of interest? >> http://www.indeed.co.uk/jobs?q=linux&l= > > Thank you. Great tip. I will try poking around the > local job site. Maybe someone will be interesting > in a private contractor, rather than hiring an employee. > We can be a lot cheaper to use. Not to mention easier > to fire! :'( You're welcome. I thought it might give you an insight into the present Linux job market, & for what purpose firms are hiring. :-) Good luck! -- E Pluribus UNIX.
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