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  The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-18 01:12 -0400
    Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> - 2025-09-18 14:21 +0000
      Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 17:12 +0100
      Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-22 00:59 +0000
        Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 11:52 +0200
          Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:55 +0000
            Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
              Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 01:42 +0000
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 02:45 +0000
                  Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 06:09 +0000
            Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 09:57 +0200
              Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 10:54 +0100
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:28 +0200
                  Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:41 +0100
                    Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:05 +0200
                    Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:20 +0000
                      Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-23 21:30 -0400
                      Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:12 +0200
                        Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-24 20:42 +0000
                          Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 23:19 +0200
                            Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-25 00:29 +0000
                              Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 02:56 +0200
                                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 09:46 +0100
                                  Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:10 +0200
                  Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:17 +0000
                    Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:09 +0000
                      Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:14 +0200
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 16:56 +0000
                  Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 18:12 +0100
                  Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:08 +0200
                    Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 21:45 +0000
                      Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:15 +0000
                        Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 00:21 -0400
                    Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:14 +0000
                      Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:06 +0000
                        Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 01:22 -0400
                          Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:42 +0000
                            Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:20 +0200
                      Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:16 +0200
          Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:01 +0100
            Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:22 +0200
              Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 21:42 +0000
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:21 +0200
    Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:07 +0000
      Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> - 2025-09-20 15:47 +0000

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#75149

On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 23:19:55 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2025-09-24 22:42, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> But presumably, same as here in NZ, the tax department is legally
>> forbidden from sharing taxpayer records with police. You can be a
>> criminal running a drug-smuggling racket, but so long as you pay
>> the right taxes on your income, they are not going to snitch on you
>> to the cops.
>
> Eum... They will certainly cooperate if there is a court order,
> otherwise they are very secretive.

I think there would be limits on those court orders, too. They
couldn’t be used as evidence of illegal activity, for example.

There was the famous case of the gangster Al Capone in the USA. With
all the violent crimes he committed, the only thing the cops could
find evidence for to pin on him was ... tax evasion.

He earned lots of money in illegal ways, but his main pitfall was not
paying tax on that income. So that’s what he ended up getting jailed
for.

Here’s the actual guidance to a question from the NZ income-tax return
that I filled out earlier this year:

    Question 28 Other income
    If you received any other income between 1 April 2024 and 31 March
    2025, show it at Question 28. This may include:
    • the sale of non-FIF shares or other property
    • financial arrangements
    • cash jobs, payments made 'under the table', tips, bartering or
      income from an illegal enterprise
    • any share of partnership income as a result of capital investment
    • free or discounted shares received under an employee share scheme if
      your employer has not provided us with this information.

Note those “under the table” (wot? bribery?) and “illegal enterprise”
bits ...

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#75154

On 2025-09-25 02:29, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 23:19:55 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-09-24 22:42, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> But presumably, same as here in NZ, the tax department is legally
>>> forbidden from sharing taxpayer records with police. You can be a
>>> criminal running a drug-smuggling racket, but so long as you pay
>>> the right taxes on your income, they are not going to snitch on you
>>> to the cops.
>>
>> Eum... They will certainly cooperate if there is a court order,
>> otherwise they are very secretive.
> 
> I think there would be limits on those court orders, too. They
> couldn’t be used as evidence of illegal activity, for example.
> 
> There was the famous case of the gangster Al Capone in the USA. With
> all the violent crimes he committed, the only thing the cops could
> find evidence for to pin on him was ... tax evasion.
> 
> He earned lots of money in illegal ways, but his main pitfall was not
> paying tax on that income. So that’s what he ended up getting jailed
> for.
> 
> Here’s the actual guidance to a question from the NZ income-tax return
> that I filled out earlier this year:
> 
>      Question 28 Other income
>      If you received any other income between 1 April 2024 and 31 March
>      2025, show it at Question 28. This may include:
>      • the sale of non-FIF shares or other property
>      • financial arrangements
>      • cash jobs, payments made 'under the table', tips, bartering or
>        income from an illegal enterprise
>      • any share of partnership income as a result of capital investment
>      • free or discounted shares received under an employee share scheme if
>        your employer has not provided us with this information.
> 
> Note those “under the table” (wot? bribery?) and “illegal enterprise”
> bits ...

No such verbiage in the Spanish tax forms or instructions, AFAIK.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#75172

On 25/09/2025 01:56, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>      Question 28 Other income
>>      If you received any other income between 1 April 2024 and 31 March
>>      2025, show it at Question 28. This may include:
>>      • the sale of non-FIF shares or other property
>>      • financial arrangements
>>      • cash jobs, payments made 'under the table', tips, bartering or
>>        income from an illegal enterprise
>>      • any share of partnership income as a result of capital investment
>>      • free or discounted shares received under an employee share 
>> scheme if
>>        your employer has not provided us with this information.
>>
>> Note those “under the table” (wot? bribery?) and “illegal enterprise”
>> bits ...
> 
> No such verbiage in the Spanish tax forms or instructions, AFAIK.

In France, they simply add 40% to your tax bill to account for the under 
the table payments you then have to take to pay the tax bill.

-- 
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They 
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

Margaret Thatcher

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#75185

On 2025-09-25 10:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 25/09/2025 01:56, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>      Question 28 Other income
>>>      If you received any other income between 1 April 2024 and 31 March
>>>      2025, show it at Question 28. This may include:
>>>      • the sale of non-FIF shares or other property
>>>      • financial arrangements
>>>      • cash jobs, payments made 'under the table', tips, bartering or
>>>        income from an illegal enterprise
>>>      • any share of partnership income as a result of capital investment
>>>      • free or discounted shares received under an employee share 
>>> scheme if
>>>        your employer has not provided us with this information.
>>>
>>> Note those “under the table” (wot? bribery?) and “illegal enterprise”
>>> bits ...
>>
>> No such verbiage in the Spanish tax forms or instructions, AFAIK.
> 
> In France, they simply add 40% to your tax bill to account for the under 
> the table payments you then have to take to pay the tax bill.

There is some tax procedure for "sole traders" that is done by 
estimation. I don't what it is exactly.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#75030

On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:28:09 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> But yes, the reasons everybody suspects are bank commissions and tax 
> avoidance.

“Tax avoidance” is different from “tax evasion”. The first one is not 
paying tax that you don’t have to; the second one is not paying tax that 
you *do* have to.

The first one is legal; the second one is not.

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#75063

On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:17:25 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:28:09 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> But yes, the reasons everybody suspects are bank commissions and tax
>> avoidance.
> 
> “Tax avoidance” is different from “tax evasion”. The first one is not
> paying tax that you don’t have to; the second one is not paying tax that
> you *do* have to.
> 
> The first one is legal; the second one is not.

And you need a good lawyer to tell the difference... Dick the Butcher had 
it right.

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#75095

On 2025-09-24 05:09, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:17:25 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:28:09 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> But yes, the reasons everybody suspects are bank commissions and tax
>>> avoidance.
>>
>> “Tax avoidance” is different from “tax evasion”. The first one is not
>> paying tax that you don’t have to; the second one is not paying tax that
>> you *do* have to.
>>
>> The first one is legal; the second one is not.

Oh!

> And you need a good lawyer to tell the difference... Dick the Butcher had
> it right.

Ah, then I feel better, thanks :-)

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#74988

On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 10:54:40 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 23/09/2025 08:57, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> Certainly, they can have it. Vendors that want it have it. The
>> interesting thing is that these people refuse to have it, for some
>> reason that we can only speculate about.
> Cash need not be all declared for tax purposes.

I haven't used it often but Uber drivers seem to be happy with accepting 
cash tips rather than tipping them through the Uber app. 

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#74990

On 23/09/2025 17:56, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 10:54:40 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 23/09/2025 08:57, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> Certainly, they can have it. Vendors that want it have it. The
>>> interesting thing is that these people refuse to have it, for some
>>> reason that we can only speculate about.
>> Cash need not be all declared for tax purposes.
> 
> I haven't used it often but Uber drivers seem to be happy with accepting
> cash tips rather than tipping them through the Uber app.

Cash is the way the Man wants to stop you being 100% observed in every 
financial transaction...


-- 
There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do 
that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon 
emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent 
renewable energy.

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#75009

On 2025-09-23 18:56, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 10:54:40 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 23/09/2025 08:57, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> Certainly, they can have it. Vendors that want it have it. The
>>> interesting thing is that these people refuse to have it, for some
>>> reason that we can only speculate about.
>> Cash need not be all declared for tax purposes.
> 
> I haven't used it often but Uber drivers seem to be happy with accepting
> cash tips rather than tipping them through the Uber app.

One has to wonder what effects has on the app behaviour if it knows how 
much one is tipped and how frequently. These apps study behaviour and 
change things. Like if it is raining a ride becomes more expensive.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#75028

On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:08:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> These apps study behaviour and change things. Like if it is raining
> a ride becomes more expensive.

Or if there is an emergency on, the price goes up as well. I remember this 
happening in New York a few years ago. People were very critical about it.

We call it “profiteering”.

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#75065

On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 21:45:01 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:08:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> These apps study behaviour and change things. Like if it is raining a
>> ride becomes more expensive.
> 
> Or if there is an emergency on, the price goes up as well. I remember
> this happening in New York a few years ago. People were very critical
> about it.
> 
> We call it “profiteering”.

In some cultures that might get you hung from a lamp pole with 'War 
Profiteer' nailed to your chest.

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#75074

On 9/23/25 23:15, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 21:45:01 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:08:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> These apps study behaviour and change things. Like if it is raining a
>>> ride becomes more expensive.
>>
>> Or if there is an emergency on, the price goes up as well. I remember
>> this happening in New York a few years ago. People were very critical
>> about it.
>>
>> We call it “profiteering”.
> 
> In some cultures that might get you hung from a lamp pole with 'War
> Profiteer' nailed to your chest.

   But in others you become a famous "Daddy Warbucks"

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#75064

On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:08:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> One has to wonder what effects has on the app behaviour if it knows how
> much one is tipped and how frequently. These apps study behaviour and
> change things. Like if it is raining a ride becomes more expensive.

I haven't used it often enough to worry about being flagged as a poor 
tipper. Before Uber and Lyft drove the taxi company out of business you 
paid the driver in cash.

Before an eye operation the nurse asked who was going to pick me up. When 
I said I was going to take a cab she broke the news to me that there 
weren't cabs anymore and I'd better figure out how to use Uber.

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#75085

On 2025-09-24, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:08:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> One has to wonder what effects has on the app behaviour if it knows how
>> much one is tipped and how frequently. These apps study behaviour and
>> change things. Like if it is raining a ride becomes more expensive.
>
> I haven't used it often enough to worry about being flagged as a poor 
> tipper. Before Uber and Lyft drove the taxi company out of business you 
> paid the driver in cash.
>
> Before an eye operation the nurse asked who was going to pick me up. When 
> I said I was going to take a cab she broke the news to me that there 
> weren't cabs anymore and I'd better figure out how to use Uber.

I avoid Uber wherever possible in favour of the (somewhat, perhaps)
local taxi company.  At least they aren't a multinational.

Seen in a local microbrewery: "Think globally, drink locally."

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#75086

On 9/24/25 01:06, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-09-24, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:08:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> One has to wonder what effects has on the app behaviour if it knows how
>>> much one is tipped and how frequently. These apps study behaviour and
>>> change things. Like if it is raining a ride becomes more expensive.
>>
>> I haven't used it often enough to worry about being flagged as a poor
>> tipper. Before Uber and Lyft drove the taxi company out of business you
>> paid the driver in cash.
>>
>> Before an eye operation the nurse asked who was going to pick me up. When
>> I said I was going to take a cab she broke the news to me that there
>> weren't cabs anymore and I'd better figure out how to use Uber.
> 
> I avoid Uber wherever possible in favour of the (somewhat, perhaps)
> local taxi company.  At least they aren't a multinational.
> 
> Seen in a local microbrewery: "Think globally, drink locally."

   Not even equipped to use Uber - little flip phone.

   However there are several local taxi companies with
   fair prices - that take CASH.

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#75088

On 2025-09-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

> On 9/24/25 01:06, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2025-09-24, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:08:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> One has to wonder what effects has on the app behaviour if it knows how
>>>> much one is tipped and how frequently. These apps study behaviour and
>>>> change things. Like if it is raining a ride becomes more expensive.
>>>
>>> I haven't used it often enough to worry about being flagged as a poor
>>> tipper. Before Uber and Lyft drove the taxi company out of business you
>>> paid the driver in cash.
>>>
>>> Before an eye operation the nurse asked who was going to pick me up. When
>>> I said I was going to take a cab she broke the news to me that there
>>> weren't cabs anymore and I'd better figure out how to use Uber.
>> 
>> I avoid Uber wherever possible in favour of the (somewhat, perhaps)
>> local taxi company.  At least they aren't a multinational.
>> 
>> Seen in a local microbrewery: "Think globally, drink locally."
>
>    Not even equipped to use Uber - little flip phone.

Me too.

>    However there are several local taxi companies with
>    fair prices - that take CASH.

Most taxis here have the little dingus that takes credit cards.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#75097

On 2025-09-24 07:42, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-09-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/24/25 01:06, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-24, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:08:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One has to wonder what effects has on the app behaviour if it knows how
>>>>> much one is tipped and how frequently. These apps study behaviour and
>>>>> change things. Like if it is raining a ride becomes more expensive.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't used it often enough to worry about being flagged as a poor
>>>> tipper. Before Uber and Lyft drove the taxi company out of business you
>>>> paid the driver in cash.
>>>>
>>>> Before an eye operation the nurse asked who was going to pick me up. When
>>>> I said I was going to take a cab she broke the news to me that there
>>>> weren't cabs anymore and I'd better figure out how to use Uber.
>>>
>>> I avoid Uber wherever possible in favour of the (somewhat, perhaps)
>>> local taxi company.  At least they aren't a multinational.
>>>
>>> Seen in a local microbrewery: "Think globally, drink locally."
>>
>>     Not even equipped to use Uber - little flip phone.
> 
> Me too.
> 
>>     However there are several local taxi companies with
>>     fair prices - that take CASH.
> 
> Most taxis here have the little dingus that takes credit cards.

My usual credit card has no relief lettering, so has to be used with an 
electronic device, not the old style carbon papers. And this means that 
debit cards are also accepted. It is either both or none.

You have to ask if they accept plastic in advance.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#75096

On 2025-09-24 05:14, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:08:59 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> One has to wonder what effects has on the app behaviour if it knows how
>> much one is tipped and how frequently. These apps study behaviour and
>> change things. Like if it is raining a ride becomes more expensive.
> 
> I haven't used it often enough to worry about being flagged as a poor
> tipper. Before Uber and Lyft drove the taxi company out of business you
> paid the driver in cash.

I've never used an Uber, but I do use taxis now and then.

> Before an eye operation the nurse asked who was going to pick me up. When
> I said I was going to take a cab she broke the news to me that there
> weren't cabs anymore and I'd better figure out how to use Uber.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#74940

On 2025-09-22, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2025-09-22 02:59, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2025 14:21:06 -0000 (UTC), John McCue wrote:
>>
>>> ... eventually we will be in a cashless society.
>>
>> Here in 🇳🇿 it’s common to go months without any cash changing hands.
>
> Two days ago I ate "churros with chocolate" at a street "cabin" (fixed
> truck), and they had a sign: cash only.
>
> On Chinese bazaars here (owned by Chinese people, so in sort called
> here "the chino") it is typical that there is a minimum amount to
> accept a card, otherwise it is cash.
>
> I know some road coffee places with a similar sign: minimum for card
> use is 10€.
>
>
> On the other hand, there is a regulation that mandates that any
> payment of 1000€ and above can not be made in cash.

So Spain has excessive charges for merchants from payment processors?
stores in Portugal went through such a stint, which did sound
excessively inconvenient, as some would probably prefer to pay small
items with bank cards instead of cash. Limit was usually EUR 5, though,
not 10.

This wasn't just small businesses, but also grocery stores in big
supermarket chains. The driver was, at least reportedly, the charges
incurred in accepting such transactions.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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