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Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs

From Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs
Date 2025-09-25 00:29 +0000
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 23:19:55 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2025-09-24 22:42, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> But presumably, same as here in NZ, the tax department is legally
>> forbidden from sharing taxpayer records with police. You can be a
>> criminal running a drug-smuggling racket, but so long as you pay
>> the right taxes on your income, they are not going to snitch on you
>> to the cops.
>
> Eum... They will certainly cooperate if there is a court order,
> otherwise they are very secretive.

I think there would be limits on those court orders, too. They
couldn’t be used as evidence of illegal activity, for example.

There was the famous case of the gangster Al Capone in the USA. With
all the violent crimes he committed, the only thing the cops could
find evidence for to pin on him was ... tax evasion.

He earned lots of money in illegal ways, but his main pitfall was not
paying tax on that income. So that’s what he ended up getting jailed
for.

Here’s the actual guidance to a question from the NZ income-tax return
that I filled out earlier this year:

    Question 28 Other income
    If you received any other income between 1 April 2024 and 31 March
    2025, show it at Question 28. This may include:
    • the sale of non-FIF shares or other property
    • financial arrangements
    • cash jobs, payments made 'under the table', tips, bartering or
      income from an illegal enterprise
    • any share of partnership income as a result of capital investment
    • free or discounted shares received under an employee share scheme if
      your employer has not provided us with this information.

Note those “under the table” (wot? bribery?) and “illegal enterprise”
bits ...

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Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-22 00:59 +0000
  Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 11:52 +0200
    Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:55 +0000
      Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
        Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 01:42 +0000
          Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 02:45 +0000
            Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 06:09 +0000
      Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 09:57 +0200
        Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 10:54 +0100
          Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:28 +0200
            Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:41 +0100
              Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:05 +0200
              Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:20 +0000
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-23 21:30 -0400
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:12 +0200
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-24 20:42 +0000
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 23:19 +0200
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-25 00:29 +0000
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 02:56 +0200
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 09:46 +0100
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:10 +0200
            Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:17 +0000
              Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:09 +0000
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:14 +0200
          Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 16:56 +0000
            Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 18:12 +0100
            Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:08 +0200
              Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 21:45 +0000
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:15 +0000
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 00:21 -0400
              Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:14 +0000
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:06 +0000
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 01:22 -0400
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:42 +0000
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:20 +0200
                Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:16 +0200
    Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:01 +0100
      Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:22 +0200
        Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-23 21:42 +0000
          Re: The Horrible Future : China - Holographic Cashless ATMs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:21 +0200

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