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| Started by | pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> |
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| First post | 2022-11-11 17:54 +0000 |
| Last post | 2022-11-11 18:52 +0000 |
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Other tools like "whois"? pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2022-11-11 17:54 +0000
Re: Other tools like "whois"? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-11-11 13:01 -0500
Re: Other tools like "whois"? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-11-11 18:17 +0000
Re: Other tools like "whois"? pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2022-11-11 18:41 +0000
Re: Other tools like "whois"? "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2022-11-11 14:39 -0500
Re: Other tools like "whois"? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2022-11-11 23:50 -0500
Re: Other tools like "whois"? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2022-11-11 18:52 +0000
| From | pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> |
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| Date | 2022-11-11 17:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Other tools like "whois"? |
| Message-ID | <tkm296$t8qr$1@dont-email.me> |
I heard about an outfit called "undocufund.org" on the local college radio station. Seems they collect and give money to illegal aliens since they are "unfairly left out" of State and Federal benefit programs and they entreat you to send them money. (This would drive my mom basllistic, as we used to say. She was a legal immigrant from Latvia and insisted that everyone who wanted in should wait his turn and go through the hoops and jumps she had to.) Curious, I used "whois" to see info about these guys. Here's part of the output: Domain Name: undocufund.org Registry Domain ID: 3a2a7cc5edf44d768125e125dfaba031-LROR Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.tucows.com Registrar URL: http://www.tucows.com Updated Date: 2022-09-04T16:46:54Z Creation Date: 2017-10-14T20:38:29Z Registry Expiry Date: 2023-10-14T20:38:29Z Registrar: Tucows Domains Inc. Registrar IANA ID: 69 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: domainabuse@tucows.com Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4165350123 Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited Registry Registrant ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant Organization: North Bay Organizing Project Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant State/Province: CA Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant Country: US Registrant Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY ... The REDACTED part is new to me...are there any other tools besides whois to help me satisfy my curiousity? I guess I'll go visit the actual website...duh...but it's nice to have a Linuxy question. pH in Aptos
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2022-11-11 13:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <87wn81pdzm.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #36061 |
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 17:54:47 -0000 (UTC), pH wrote: > > I heard about an outfit called "undocufund.org" on the local college radio > station. > > Seems they collect and give money to illegal aliens since they are "unfairly > left out" of State and Federal benefit programs and they entreat you to send > them money. > > (This would drive my mom basllistic, as we used to say. She was a legal > immigrant from Latvia and insisted that everyone who wanted in should wait > his turn and go through the hoops and jumps she had to.) > > Curious, I used "whois" to see info about these guys. > > Here's part of the output: > Domain Name: undocufund.org > Registry Domain ID: 3a2a7cc5edf44d768125e125dfaba031-LROR > Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.tucows.com > Registrar URL: http://www.tucows.com > Updated Date: 2022-09-04T16:46:54Z > Creation Date: 2017-10-14T20:38:29Z > Registry Expiry Date: 2023-10-14T20:38:29Z > Registrar: Tucows Domains Inc. > Registrar IANA ID: 69 > Registrar Abuse Contact Email: domainabuse@tucows.com > Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4165350123 > Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited > Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited > Registry Registrant ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Organization: North Bay Organizing Project > Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant State/Province: CA > Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Country: US > Registrant Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > ... > > The REDACTED part is new to me...are there any other tools besides whois to > help me satisfy my curiousity? > > I guess I'll go visit the actual website...duh...but it's nice to have a > Linuxy question. That's probably because of the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). Thus you need to visit their website to get more information. -- Andreas
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| From | Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> |
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| Date | 2022-11-11 18:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <tkm3j2$snkc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #36062 |
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 13:01:17 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 17:54:47 -0000 (UTC), pH wrote: >> >> I heard about an outfit called "undocufund.org" on the local college radio >> station. >> >> Seems they collect and give money to illegal aliens since they are "unfairly >> left out" of State and Federal benefit programs and they entreat you to send >> them money. >> >> (This would drive my mom basllistic, as we used to say. She was a legal >> immigrant from Latvia and insisted that everyone who wanted in should wait >> his turn and go through the hoops and jumps she had to.) >> >> Curious, I used "whois" to see info about these guys. >> >> Here's part of the output: >> Domain Name: undocufund.org >> Registry Domain ID: 3a2a7cc5edf44d768125e125dfaba031-LROR >> Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.tucows.com >> Registrar URL: http://www.tucows.com >> Updated Date: 2022-09-04T16:46:54Z >> Creation Date: 2017-10-14T20:38:29Z >> Registry Expiry Date: 2023-10-14T20:38:29Z >> Registrar: Tucows Domains Inc. >> Registrar IANA ID: 69 >> Registrar Abuse Contact Email: domainabuse@tucows.com >> Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4165350123 >> Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited >> Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited >> Registry Registrant ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant Organization: North Bay Organizing Project >> Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant State/Province: CA >> Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant Country: US >> Registrant Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> ... >> >> The REDACTED part is new to me...are there any other tools besides whois to >> help me satisfy my curiousity? >> >> I guess I'll go visit the actual website...duh...but it's nice to have a >> Linuxy question. > > That's probably because of the General Data Protection Regulation > (GDPR). Thus you need to visit their website to get more information. This sort of whois masking predates the GDPR. Many TLD registration bodies (such as CIRA for .ca domains) instituted "domain privacy" rules in the early 2000's (2008, for CIRA, for example) to cut down on identity theft and personal detail harvesting from whois records. -- Lew Pitcher "In Skills, We Trust"
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| From | pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> |
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| Date | 2022-11-11 18:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <tkm509$tn42$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #36062 |
On 2022-11-11, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 17:54:47 -0000 (UTC), pH wrote: >> >> I heard about an outfit called "undocufund.org" on the local college radio >> station. >> >> Seems they collect and give money to illegal aliens since they are "unfairly >> left out" of State and Federal benefit programs and they entreat you to send >> them money. >> >> (This would drive my mom basllistic, as we used to say. She was a legal >> immigrant from Latvia and insisted that everyone who wanted in should wait >> his turn and go through the hoops and jumps she had to.) >> >> Curious, I used "whois" to see info about these guys. >> >> Here's part of the output: >> Domain Name: undocufund.org >> Registry Domain ID: 3a2a7cc5edf44d768125e125dfaba031-LROR >> Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.tucows.com >> Registrar URL: http://www.tucows.com >> Updated Date: 2022-09-04T16:46:54Z >> Creation Date: 2017-10-14T20:38:29Z >> Registry Expiry Date: 2023-10-14T20:38:29Z >> Registrar: Tucows Domains Inc. >> Registrar IANA ID: 69 >> Registrar Abuse Contact Email: domainabuse@tucows.com >> Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4165350123 >> Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited >> Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited >> Registry Registrant ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant Organization: North Bay Organizing Project >> Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant State/Province: CA >> Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant Country: US >> Registrant Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> ... >> >> The REDACTED part is new to me...are there any other tools besides whois to >> help me satisfy my curiousity? Ah, yes. I do recall something about this in the EU...that makes sense. pH >> >> I guess I'll go visit the actual website...duh...but it's nice to have a >> Linuxy question. > > That's probably because of the General Data Protection Regulation > (GDPR). Thus you need to visit their website to get more information.
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| From | "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2022-11-11 14:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <op.1vhh8qwza3w0dxdave@hodgins.homeip.net> |
| In reply to | #36062 |
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 13:01:17 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 17:54:47 -0000 (UTC), pH wrote: >> >> I heard about an outfit called "undocufund.org" on the local college radio >> station. >> >> Seems they collect and give money to illegal aliens since they are "unfairly >> left out" of State and Federal benefit programs and they entreat you to send >> them money. >> >> (This would drive my mom basllistic, as we used to say. She was a legal >> immigrant from Latvia and insisted that everyone who wanted in should wait >> his turn and go through the hoops and jumps she had to.) >> >> Curious, I used "whois" to see info about these guys. >> >> Here's part of the output: >> Domain Name: undocufund.org >> Registry Domain ID: 3a2a7cc5edf44d768125e125dfaba031-LROR >> Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.tucows.com >> Registrar URL: http://www.tucows.com >> Updated Date: 2022-09-04T16:46:54Z >> Creation Date: 2017-10-14T20:38:29Z >> Registry Expiry Date: 2023-10-14T20:38:29Z >> Registrar: Tucows Domains Inc. >> Registrar IANA ID: 69 >> Registrar Abuse Contact Email: domainabuse@tucows.com >> Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4165350123 >> Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited >> Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited >> Registry Registrant ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant Organization: North Bay Organizing Project >> Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant State/Province: CA >> Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> Registrant Country: US >> Registrant Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY >> ... >> >> The REDACTED part is new to me...are there any other tools besides whois to >> help me satisfy my curiousity? >> >> I guess I'll go visit the actual website...duh...but it's nice to have a >> Linuxy question. > > That's probably because of the General Data Protection Regulation > (GDPR). Thus you need to visit their website to get more information. Or do a whois on the ip address to see who their hosting provider is. Regards, Dave Hodgins
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2022-11-11 23:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <87bkpcpyhf.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #36067 |
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 14:39:52 -0500, David W. Hodgins wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 13:01:17 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: > >> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 17:54:47 -0000 (UTC), pH wrote: [...] >>> The REDACTED part is new to me...are there any other tools besides whois to >>> help me satisfy my curiousity? >>> >>> I guess I'll go visit the actual website...duh...but it's nice to have a >>> Linuxy question. >> >> That's probably because of the General Data Protection Regulation >> (GDPR). Thus you need to visit their website to get more information. > > Or do a whois on the ip address to see who their hosting provider is. That might be a completely different company - and often is. The host IP might for example be at OVH in France or Canada, while the whois lists Godaddy in the US. -- Andreas
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| From | Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> |
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| Date | 2022-11-11 18:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eli$2211111352@qaz.wtf> |
| In reply to | #36061 |
In comp.os.linux.misc, pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> wrote: > Registry Registrant ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Organization: North Bay Organizing Project > Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant State/Province: CA > Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > Registrant Country: US > Registrant Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY > ... > > The REDACTED part is new to me...are there any other tools besides whois to > help me satisfy my curiousity? Possibly `whois` on the IP address would be useful, but often it just maps to a big provider. Other thing I like to do is examine all the subject alternative names (SANs) on the https certificate. Take a look at the list on aol.com for example. I don't like it, but I have the privacy stuff on my domains, too. I tried not having it and I got a lot of spam to the email address and phone calls and text messages to the phone number. It was quite unpleasant. I set the address to a PO Box, I got no junk mail there for that. I _do_ get junk mail for a trademark using that same PO Box. Elijah ------ actually, two trademarks, and the junk always comes in pairs
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