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  MX Linux terminal placement Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2020-06-15 16:39 -0500
    Re: MX Linux terminal placement Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2020-06-15 21:48 +0000
      Re: MX Linux terminal placement Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2020-06-15 18:01 -0400
        Re: MX Linux terminal placement Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2020-06-15 17:22 -0500
          Re: MX Linux terminal placement Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2020-06-15 18:32 -0400
            Re: MX Linux terminal placement Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2020-06-15 17:38 -0500
              Re: MX Linux terminal placement Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-22 01:36 +0000
            Re: MX Linux terminal placement Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2020-06-15 18:39 -0400
              Re: MX Linux terminal placement Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2020-06-15 17:56 -0500
      Re: MX Linux terminal placement Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2020-06-15 17:18 -0500
      Re: MX Linux terminal placement Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2020-06-16 03:36 -0500
    Re: MX Linux terminal placement Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-15 22:12 +0000
      Re: MX Linux terminal placement Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2020-06-16 03:29 +0000
        Re: MX Linux terminal placement Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2020-06-16 11:01 +0000
    Re: MX Linux terminal placement The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2020-06-16 06:35 +0100

#30090 — MX Linux terminal placement

The terminal always opens in the upper left corner of the screen.  Is
there anyway to get it to open in the bottom right corner?

I'm using a 32 inch Samsung TV for my monitor, and it would be a lot
more comfortable to look down to the right instead of up to the left.

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#30091

Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
> 
> The terminal always opens in the upper left corner of the screen.  Is
> there anyway to get it to open in the bottom right corner?
> 
> I'm using a 32 inch Samsung TV for my monitor, and it would be a lot
> more comfortable to look down to the right instead of up to the left.

Configure your window manager to open it in the bottom right corner.

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#30092

On June 15, 2020 17:48, Rich wrote:

> Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
>> 
>> The terminal always opens in the upper left corner of the screen.  Is
>> there anyway to get it to open in the bottom right corner?
>> 
>> I'm using a 32 inch Samsung TV for my monitor, and it would be a lot
>> more comfortable to look down to the right instead of up to the left.
> 
> Configure your window manager to open it in the bottom right corner.

Or, have the terminal ask to be positioned in the bottom right corner. It 
might take the -geometry flag to do it

-- 
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills, We Trust"

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#30096

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:01:19 -0400
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:

> On June 15, 2020 17:48, Rich wrote:
> 
> > Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:  
> >> 
> >> The terminal always opens in the upper left corner of the screen.
> >> Is there anyway to get it to open in the bottom right corner?
> >> 
> >> I'm using a 32 inch Samsung TV for my monitor, and it would be a
> >> lot more comfortable to look down to the right instead of up to
> >> the left.  
> > 
> > Configure your window manager to open it in the bottom right
> > corner.  
> 
> Or, have the terminal ask to be positioned in the bottom right
> corner. It might take the -geometry flag to do it
> 

How do I get the terminal to ask?  I see no man page for terminal.

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#30097

On June 15, 2020 18:22, Johnny wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:01:19 -0400
> Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:
> 
>> On June 15, 2020 17:48, Rich wrote:
>> 
>> > Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> The terminal always opens in the upper left corner of the screen.
>> >> Is there anyway to get it to open in the bottom right corner?
>> >> 
>> >> I'm using a 32 inch Samsung TV for my monitor, and it would be a
>> >> lot more comfortable to look down to the right instead of up to
>> >> the left.
>> > 
>> > Configure your window manager to open it in the bottom right
>> > corner.
>> 
>> Or, have the terminal ask to be positioned in the bottom right
>> corner. It might take the -geometry flag to do it
>> 
> 
> How do I get the terminal to ask?  I see no man page for terminal.
18:31 $ terminal --help
Usage:
  terminal [OPTION...]

General Options:
  -h, --help; -V, --version; --disable-server;
  --default-display=display; --default-working-directory=directory

Window or Tab Separators:
  --tab; --window

Tab Options:
  -x, --execute; -e, --command=command; -T, --title=title;
  --working-directory=directory; -H, --hold

Window Options:
  --display=display; --geometry=geometry; --role=role;
  --startup-id=string; -I, --icon=icon; --fullscreen; --maximize;
  --show-menubar, --hide-menubar; --show-borders, --hide-borders;
  --show-toolbars, --hide-toolbars

See the terminal man page for full explanation of the options above.

18:31 $ terminal --geometry +100+100

-- 
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills, We Trust"

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#30098

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:32 -0400
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:

> On June 15, 2020 18:22, Johnny wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:01:19 -0400
> > Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:
> >   
> >> On June 15, 2020 17:48, Rich wrote:
> >>   
> >> > Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:  
> >> >> 
> >> >> The terminal always opens in the upper left corner of the
> >> >> screen. Is there anyway to get it to open in the bottom right
> >> >> corner?
> >> >> 
> >> >> I'm using a 32 inch Samsung TV for my monitor, and it would be a
> >> >> lot more comfortable to look down to the right instead of up to
> >> >> the left.  
> >> > 
> >> > Configure your window manager to open it in the bottom right
> >> > corner.  
> >> 
> >> Or, have the terminal ask to be positioned in the bottom right
> >> corner. It might take the -geometry flag to do it
> >>   
> > 
> > How do I get the terminal to ask?  I see no man page for terminal.  
> 18:31 $ terminal --help
> Usage:
>   terminal [OPTION...]
> 
> General Options:
>   -h, --help; -V, --version; --disable-server;
>   --default-display=display; --default-working-directory=directory
> 
> Window or Tab Separators:
>   --tab; --window
> 
> Tab Options:
>   -x, --execute; -e, --command=command; -T, --title=title;
>   --working-directory=directory; -H, --hold
> 
> Window Options:
>   --display=display; --geometry=geometry; --role=role;
>   --startup-id=string; -I, --icon=icon; --fullscreen; --maximize;
>   --show-menubar, --hide-menubar; --show-borders, --hide-borders;
>   --show-toolbars, --hide-toolbars
> 
> See the terminal man page for full explanation of the options above.
> 
> 18:31 $ terminal --geometry +100+100
> 

I found the man page.  It's man xfce4-terminal.  Thanks, I'll work on
it.

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#30167

Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> writes:
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:32 -0400

> > 18:31 $ terminal --geometry +100+100
> > 
> 
> I found the man page.  It's man xfce4-terminal.  Thanks, I'll work on
> it.
>

If you're launching the xterm/terminal from an icon, make your changes to
icon's properties. Generally a right-click on the icon will show a menu
item called 'properties'. Or maybe even a set of text fields, one of
which might be 'Command' showing the actual command that the icon uses
when it launches the program. Put your CLI arguments there.

I tend to use a script to launch a program. A script can be made as long or
as short as needed. I put the script name and path in the 'Command' field. 


This the script that launches my xterm, with the very imaginative name of
'xtermj':

================================

#!/bin/bash
# jvs script
# opens normal user xterm with black on white background
#2005

xhost + localhost >/dev/null
xterm -sb -rightbar -sl 8000 -fg black \
        -geom 115x58 -bg white &

================================ 

I use only the 'size' part of the -geom argument, but you could add the
window-open position there as well.

Jack 
-- 
"It's rather cold." she said bitchily.

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#30099

On June 15, 2020 18:32, Lew Pitcher wrote:

> On June 15, 2020 18:22, Johnny wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:01:19 -0400
>> Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> On June 15, 2020 17:48, Rich wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
>>> >> 
>>> >> The terminal always opens in the upper left corner of the screen.
>>> >> Is there anyway to get it to open in the bottom right corner?
>>> >> 
>>> >> I'm using a 32 inch Samsung TV for my monitor, and it would be a
>>> >> lot more comfortable to look down to the right instead of up to
>>> >> the left.
>>> > 
>>> > Configure your window manager to open it in the bottom right
>>> > corner.
>>> 
>>> Or, have the terminal ask to be positioned in the bottom right
>>> corner. It might take the -geometry flag to do it
>>> 
>> 
>> How do I get the terminal to ask?  I see no man page for terminal.
> 18:31 $ terminal --help
> Usage:
>   terminal [OPTION...]
> 
> General Options:
>   -h, --help; -V, --version; --disable-server;
>   --default-display=display; --default-working-directory=directory
> 
> Window or Tab Separators:
>   --tab; --window
> 
> Tab Options:
>   -x, --execute; -e, --command=command; -T, --title=title;
>   --working-directory=directory; -H, --hold
> 
> Window Options:
>   --display=display; --geometry=geometry; --role=role;
>   --startup-id=string; -I, --icon=icon; --fullscreen; --maximize;
>   --show-menubar, --hide-menubar; --show-borders, --hide-borders;
>   --show-toolbars, --hide-toolbars
> 
> See the terminal man page for full explanation of the options above.
> 
> 18:31 $ terminal --geometry +100+100

FWIW, the geometry argument specifies up to four things (two of which I have 
let default in the example above):
  the width of the window,
  the height of the window,
  the distance between the window and the left (or right, depending on sign)
    border of the screen, and
  the distance between the window and the top (or bottom, depending on sign)
    border of the screen

A full geometry might read
  80x24+1000+50
for an 80 column wide, 24 line long terminal positioned so that it's left 
edge is 1000 pixels away from the left edge of the desktop, and it's top 
edge is positioned 50 pixels away from the top edge of the desktop.

For details, read the "GEOMETRY SPECIFICATIONS" section of the X(7) manpage 
("man 7 X")


HTH
-- 
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills, We Trust"

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#30100

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:39:05 -0400
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:

> On June 15, 2020 18:32, Lew Pitcher wrote:
> 
> > On June 15, 2020 18:22, Johnny wrote:
> >   
> >> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:01:19 -0400
> >> Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote:
> >>   
> >>> On June 15, 2020 17:48, Rich wrote:
> >>>   
> >>> > Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:  
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> The terminal always opens in the upper left corner of the
> >>> >> screen. Is there anyway to get it to open in the bottom right
> >>> >> corner?
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> I'm using a 32 inch Samsung TV for my monitor, and it would be
> >>> >> a lot more comfortable to look down to the right instead of up
> >>> >> to the left.  
> >>> > 
> >>> > Configure your window manager to open it in the bottom right
> >>> > corner.  
> >>> 
> >>> Or, have the terminal ask to be positioned in the bottom right
> >>> corner. It might take the -geometry flag to do it
> >>>   
> >> 
> >> How do I get the terminal to ask?  I see no man page for terminal.
> >>  
> > 18:31 $ terminal --help
> > Usage:
> >   terminal [OPTION...]
> > 
> > General Options:
> >   -h, --help; -V, --version; --disable-server;
> >   --default-display=display; --default-working-directory=directory
> > 
> > Window or Tab Separators:
> >   --tab; --window
> > 
> > Tab Options:
> >   -x, --execute; -e, --command=command; -T, --title=title;
> >   --working-directory=directory; -H, --hold
> > 
> > Window Options:
> >   --display=display; --geometry=geometry; --role=role;
> >   --startup-id=string; -I, --icon=icon; --fullscreen; --maximize;
> >   --show-menubar, --hide-menubar; --show-borders, --hide-borders;
> >   --show-toolbars, --hide-toolbars
> > 
> > See the terminal man page for full explanation of the options above.
> > 
> > 18:31 $ terminal --geometry +100+100  
> 
> FWIW, the geometry argument specifies up to four things (two of which
> I have let default in the example above):
>   the width of the window,
>   the height of the window,
>   the distance between the window and the left (or right, depending
> on sign) border of the screen, and
>   the distance between the window and the top (or bottom, depending
> on sign) border of the screen
> 
> A full geometry might read
>   80x24+1000+50
> for an 80 column wide, 24 line long terminal positioned so that it's
> left edge is 1000 pixels away from the left edge of the desktop, and
> it's top edge is positioned 50 pixels away from the top edge of the
> desktop.
> 
> For details, read the "GEOMETRY SPECIFICATIONS" section of the X(7)
> manpage ("man 7 X")
> 
> 
> HTH

Thanks, I was looking for that.

It amazes me that someone is smart enough to create a terminal, and
then can't write simple instructions on how to use it.

I would have never thought of man 7 X when it said Read X(7) for more
information.

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#30095

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 21:48:20 -0000 (UTC)
Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:

> Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
> > 
> > The terminal always opens in the upper left corner of the screen.
> > Is there anyway to get it to open in the bottom right corner?
> > 
> > I'm using a 32 inch Samsung TV for my monitor, and it would be a lot
> > more comfortable to look down to the right instead of up to the
> > left.  
> 
> Configure your window manager to open it in the bottom right corner.

I looked in the window manager, and don't see any way to do it.

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#30103

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 21:48:20 -0000 (UTC)
Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:

> Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
> > 
> > The terminal always opens in the upper left corner of the screen.
> > Is there anyway to get it to open in the bottom right corner?
> > 
> > I'm using a 32 inch Samsung TV for my monitor, and it would be a lot
> > more comfortable to look down to the right instead of up to the
> > left.  
> 
> Configure your window manager to open it in the bottom right corner.

Using Window Manager Tweaks, I was able to place the terminal where I
want it.

It wasn't as simple as it sounds.

One of the Window Manager Tweaks is to open the window under the mouse
pointer.

Usually the terminal icon is in the panel on the bottom left of the
screen, so the terminal opened on the bottom left of the screen.

I moved the terminal icon to the right side of the panel, and now it
opens on the bottom right of the screen.

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#30094

Le 15-06-2020, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> a écrit :
>
> The terminal always opens in the upper left corner of the screen.  Is
> there anyway to get it to open in the bottom right corner?
>
> I'm using a 32 inch Samsung TV for my monitor, and it would be a lot
> more comfortable to look down to the right instead of up to the left.

I'd say you don't give the most important information. It's not the
terminal which places itself where it wants. It's the WM which does it.
So, you have to tell which WM you are using.

I won't be able to help because in the WM I'm using, it takes the size
it can. But the one able to help would need to know.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#30101

On 2020-06-15, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
> Le 15-06-2020, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> a écrit :
>>
>> The terminal always opens in the upper left corner of the screen.  Is
>> there anyway to get it to open in the bottom right corner?
>>
>> I'm using a 32 inch Samsung TV for my monitor, and it would be a lot
>> more comfortable to look down to the right instead of up to the left.
>
> I'd say you don't give the most important information. It's not the
> terminal which places itself where it wants. It's the WM which does it.
> So, you have to tell which WM you are using.
>
> I won't be able to help because in the WM I'm using, it takes the size
> it can. But the one able to help would need to know.

There's a program that is useful in this kind of case:

    https://github.com/GNOME/devilspie

I use it with fvwm2.  It's not perfect, but it puts the vast
majority of my web browser windows where I want them.

HTH

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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#30108

Le 16-06-2020, Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> a écrit :
> On 2020-06-15, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>> I won't be able to help because in the WM I'm using, it takes the
>> size it can.
>
> There's a program that is useful in this kind of case:
>
>     https://github.com/GNOME/devilspie
>
> I use it with fvwm2.  It's not perfect, but it puts the vast majority
> of my web browser windows where I want them.
>
> HTH

I've no issue. I know exactly how my terminal will open : like any
other Window. And I know that the way my Windows are managed have
nothing in common with the way his Windows are managed.

I'm using i3wm : 
<https://i3wm.org>

I know : it's weird, but I like it.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#30102

On 15/06/2020 22:39, Johnny wrote:
> 
> The terminal always opens in the upper left corner of the screen.  Is
> there anyway to get it to open in the bottom right corner?
> 
> I'm using a 32 inch Samsung TV for my monitor, and it would be a lot
> more comfortable to look down to the right instead of up to the left.
> 
> 
Most window managers have a modifiable default for this


-- 
Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend.

"Saki"

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