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Re: The joy of FORTRAN

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: The joy of FORTRAN
Date 2025-02-27 12:00 +0000
Organization A little, after lunch
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On 27/02/2025 09:30, c186282 wrote:
> On 2/27/25 2:43 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2025-02-26, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/25/25 2:33 PM, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I went from DEC20 FORTRAN to pdp11 Basic (it had matrix math) to 
>>>>> DEC SAIL
>>>>> (Algol) to Pascal to C to Python
>>>>
>>>>    Sounds familiar ... though 'C' became available on
>>>>    the PDP-11s (was writ on them). Still pref Pascal
>>>>    over Python where possible.
>>>>
>>>>> Assembler and COBOL were needed but avoided
>>>>
>>>>    Better ASM than COBOL  :-)
>>>
>>> Depends on what you want to do. Assembler is a lot more fun,
>>> but I wouldn’t want to write a payroll system in it.
>>
>> Wrote 'em, maintained 'em.  They're hell in any language.
>>
>> Having said that, I really enjoyed working in assembly language,
>> for the privilege of not having some snooty compiler slap your
>> wrist and say you needed a page of code to do something you could
>> do in a few lines of assembly code.
>>
>>>>    ASM can give you kind of a buzz, makes you one
>>>>    with the machine.
>>>>
>>>>    Alas if I'd learned more COBOL then I could have
>>>>    had a lucrative retirement income supp maintaining
>>>>    all those old biz/ops code. Still LOTS of it in
>>>>    use and it's too expensive now to replace. If it
>>>>    works you hang on to it with a death grip.
>>>
>>> It’s not just COBOL any more, it’s all COBOL/CICS/DB2. Same with PL/I.
>>
>> My COBOL days didn't involve any database stuff.  Mind you, I've
>> managed to avoid any sort of DBMS for my entire career.  However,
>> I did do enough work with Univac's equivalent of CICS (in both
>> COBOL and assembly language) to be glad to be done with it.
> 
>    We ADMIT - COBOL SUCKED.
> 
>    The "All purpose business language" was just
>    HORRIBLE to work with.
> 

That is probably because you don't have the patience to stick to the rules.
What mattered in COBOL applications was no bugs. None. Not one.
The process of analysing a business and creating business oriented 
applications that were 100% reliable lead to system analysts working out 
how to do it and passing the specification down to programmers and 
testing every single module.

Worth it for banks and big companies.

>    I've done some COBOL - but under 100 lines.
>    Did NOT love it.
> 
I looked into it quiet hard at one point. I was very impressed. It was 
clearly a language that a total numpty could program in and get right.

When I went into databases etc I found some of the methodology to be 
useful as well.

Also it was clearly designed for machines with limited memory with 
modules not being held in RAM if not in use.

>    On the flip, a HUGE volume of biz/gov stuff
>    that STILL WORKS was writ in COBOL during
>    the 60s. It was good, it worked, it STILL
>    works. Those 60s nerds were GOOD.
> 
I think it was less that the nerds were good than that they followed 
strict guidelines of how to code.
At some level everything was flowcharted and every single bit of data 
memory had a name and its function went into the data dictionary.

In short it was fully documented before it was written, in detail, and 
then passed over to hack 'progs' to turn into COBOL

And TESTED against the detail specifications

This is big corporation stuff .

>    Oh, for Linux, some COBOL development
>    environments - including 'IDE' - are to
>    be had. It's NOT a dead language - just
>    'less popular' than it used to be.
> 
IIRC Microfocus COBOL still makes a profit.


>    If you ARE a COBOL expert - there's LOTS
>    of money to be made. Replacing that COBOL
>    is now TOO EXPENSIVE ... so maint has become
>    a Big Thing.

IIRC the main money was in RPG?
i.e. once the big cobol program was actually written and you had the 
data, you needed tools like RPG to produce decent reports and they 
always wanted more


-- 
Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed.

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Re: The joy of FORTRAN vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2025-02-25 19:33 +0000
  Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 20:26 +0000
    Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 13:43 -0700
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 13:03 -0800
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-25 21:06 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 13:22 -0800
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-25 21:40 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 23:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 15:19 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 23:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 15:57 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:51 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 01:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:37 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-27 08:03 -0800
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-27 17:44 +0000
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-27 18:54 +0000
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 03:00 +0000
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:32 +0000
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 17:51 +0000
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 21:32 +0000
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-28 07:30 -0500
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 20:03 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Alfred Falk <aefalk@telus.net> - 2025-03-07 04:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-07 13:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-03-07 06:46 -1000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-07 19:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-08 03:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-08 04:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-08 05:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 00:21 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-08 08:04 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-08 14:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-08 20:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-08 22:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 00:20 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 07:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 04:55 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 19:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 22:50 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 06:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-10 15:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 20:50 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-10 21:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 22:54 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-11 05:22 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 10:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-11 20:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-03-09 21:56 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-10 00:18 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 17:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 21:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-10 12:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 11:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 17:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 21:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 08:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-11 09:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 09:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2025-03-11 09:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-11 18:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 20:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-11 20:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 20:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-03-10 08:51 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-10 21:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-03-09 18:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 19:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 22:01 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 15:55 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 23:05 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 06:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 04:43 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 19:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 21:27 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 04:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 06:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-09 10:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:09 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-09 14:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:30 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-10 15:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 22:57 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 06:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 04:21 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:57 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 11:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 21:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 11:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 17:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-10 18:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 23:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 22:30 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-03-09 03:49 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 01:10 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:42 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 06:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-11 05:31 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-11 18:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-26 01:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-26 14:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-26 19:03 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:43 -0500
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-02-26 02:13 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 08:37 -0800
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-26 15:17 -0700
                Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-27 01:39 +0000
                Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 04:42 +0000
                Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 07:43 +0000
                Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:41 -0500
                Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:49 -0500
            Re: The joy of old small computers, which sort of ran FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-26 03:23 +0000
              Re: The joy of old small computers, which sort of ran FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-26 00:41 -0500
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 22:56 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:22 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-27 00:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 01:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 07:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 08:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 18:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:29 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 01:39 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 07:34 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 07:26 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 19:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-03-01 00:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:19 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 18:11 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 20:57 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 17:51 -0700
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-01 01:48 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-01 14:47 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-01 20:56 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-01 21:28 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2025-03-01 15:21 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-03-02 02:50 -0800
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-02 20:34 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:38 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-03 00:25 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 01:38 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-03 03:01 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 06:54 -0700
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 23:38 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 23:07 -0500
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 12:02 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-04 01:06 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:36 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-02 14:58 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:39 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-03 01:50 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 02:07 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-03 03:04 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-03 03:05 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-04 23:39 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-05 00:38 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-05 03:00 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-05 23:49 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-06 00:49 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-06 05:11 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-06 05:58 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-06 14:43 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-06 14:42 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 06:54 -0700
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 19:16 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 23:41 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-04 00:16 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 03:01 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 17:36 -0700
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 02:59 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 23:11 -0500
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 07:11 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-04 19:22 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:39 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:39 -0500
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 02:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:34 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 21:11 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-01 04:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-01 00:04 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 01:44 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 01:00 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 21:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:36 -0500
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-26 00:26 -0500
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:34 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-28 13:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-28 13:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-28 17:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-02-28 19:56 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 20:54 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 13:20 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 21:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 14:07 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 22:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-01 09:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 11:11 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-05 21:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 21:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 00:08 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-02 08:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-02 23:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 02:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 04:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-03 17:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 19:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 22:43 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 05:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 01:06 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 07:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 12:58 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 19:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 22:36 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 06:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 03:04 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 09:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-28 22:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:44 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 20:26 -0500
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-26 00:20 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-26 02:28 +0000
              CISC did not die in 1990 (was: Re: The joy of FORTRAN) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-26 14:01 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-02-25 16:59 -1000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-26 03:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-26 14:24 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-02-25 17:48 -1000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-26 04:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-26 15:17 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-26 23:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-02-27 21:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 02:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 12:42 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-02-28 13:08 -1000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 02:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-03-01 18:41 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-26 00:58 -0500
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-26 15:17 -0700
              Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-27 01:44 +0000
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 04:47 +0000
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-27 01:19 -0500
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:33 -0500
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-28 01:02 +0000
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 03:05 +0000
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 01:15 -0500
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 12:42 -0700
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 07:43 +0000
                Univac 1100/2200 Byte Size (Re: The joy of FORTRAN) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-27 19:27 +0000
                Re: Univac 1100/2200 Byte Size (Re: The joy of FORTRAN) David W Schroth <davidschroth@harrietmanor.com> - 2025-02-28 19:43 -0600
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 12:42 -0700
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-26 00:13 -0500
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 10:04 -0800
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-26 18:20 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 01:26 -0500
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-25 21:18 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-26 00:17 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-26 00:17 +0000
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 22:36 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2025-02-26 03:12 -0700
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-26 19:47 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-26 19:52 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-27 01:54 -0500
  Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-25 19:16 -0500
    Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-26 15:17 -0700
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-27 02:14 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-27 11:43 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 21:52 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 02:34 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 09:47 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-28 12:39 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 20:24 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-01 09:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 00:17 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-02 07:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 03:03 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-02 23:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 23:59 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 05:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-02 09:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-02 13:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-03 15:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 10:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-03 15:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 19:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 13:15 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 03:08 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-04 11:44 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-04 14:02 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 21:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 01:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-03-05 18:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-05 18:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-05 02:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-05 10:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 22:41 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 02:24 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 09:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 20:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-04 11:44 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-04 22:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 15:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-03 20:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 13:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-03 21:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 23:02 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 06:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 02:30 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 08:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 13:12 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 20:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 12:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 14:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 09:42 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 01:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-05 03:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 14:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 01:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 17:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-05 17:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 18:49 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-05 21:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 15:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 15:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-03-04 18:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 01:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 15:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-03 21:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-04 12:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 14:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 23:00 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 15:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 20:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 01:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-05 02:49 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-04 11:44 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-05 12:42 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-05 21:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 23:10 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 08:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 13:43 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 22:06 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 07:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 03:14 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-04 11:44 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-04 22:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-04 22:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 15:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 21:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 21:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-01 21:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 01:59 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-02 09:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 22:44 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 06:54 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-03 15:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-03 15:20 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-02 20:43 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-02 21:12 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:46 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 23:19 -0500
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 05:32 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 01:16 -0500
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-03 15:15 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-03 17:33 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 22:58 -0500
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 07:38 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-02 23:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-03 00:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-04 19:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-05 02:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 08:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-05 21:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-05 23:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-06 02:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-06 05:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-06 15:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-06 15:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-06 16:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-06 19:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-06 19:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-07 02:53 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-03-07 08:49 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-07 05:00 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-07 05:03 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-07 10:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-07 12:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-07 10:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-07 06:17 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-07 19:18 +0000
                Names of ancient computing devices [was:  Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-03-07 18:13 -0500
                Re: Names of ancient computing devices [was:  Re: The joy of FORTRAN] ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-07 23:26 +0000
                Re: Names of ancient computing devices [was:  Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-03-08 17:44 -0500
                Re: Names of ancient computing devices [was: Re: The joy of FORTRAN] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 00:37 -0500
                Re: Names of ancient computing devices [was:  Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
                Re: Names of ancient computing devices [was:  Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-03-09 21:50 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-07 12:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-06 07:52 -0800
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-28 17:58 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 17:47 -0700
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-01 04:35 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 11:15 -0800
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 12:42 -0700
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 20:50 +0000
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 07:43 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 08:04 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-27 04:37 -0500
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-27 12:04 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 21:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 01:19 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 07:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 07:55 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 09:42 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 20:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 21:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 14:16 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 22:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 15:35 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 02:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 23:02 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-01 05:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-01 02:49 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-01 08:04 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-01 23:43 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 12:36 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-01 21:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 20:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 09:48 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 02:21 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 02:16 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-27 04:30 -0500
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-27 12:00 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 18:39 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 21:50 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 02:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-28 17:58 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 21:43 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 02:28 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-27 14:08 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-02-27 14:03 -1000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 00:21 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-02-27 15:10 -1000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:11 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 01:45 -0500
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:21 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 12:42 -0700
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 02:01 +0000

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