Re: The joy of FORTRAN

From	Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: The joy of FORTRAN
Date	2025-02-27 14:03 -1000
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scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
> COBOL, in its day, was the superior choice for business
> applications.   Several 4GL environments were built around
> COBOL or autogenerated COBOL applications.

In the 60s, that were a couple CP67/CMS commercial spin-offs of the
science center. One was NCSS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_CSS
later bought by Dun & Bradstreet

NCSS ref also mentions NOMAD (4th gen software)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomad_software
predates the original SQL/relational System/R done on VM370 system at
san jose research

http://www.decosta.com/Nomad/tales/history.html
One could say PRINT ACROSS MONTH SUM SALES BY DIVISION and receive a
report that would have taken many hundreds of lines of Cobol to
produce. The product grew in capability and in revenue, both to NCSS and
to Mathematica, who enjoyed increasing royalty payments from the sizable
customer base.  FOCUS from Information Builders, Inc (IBI), did even
better, with revenue approaching a reported $150M per year. RAMIS moved
among several owners, ending at Computer Associates in 1990, and has had
little limelight since. NOMAD's owners, Thomson, continue to market the
language from Aonix, Inc. While the three continue to deliver 10-to-1
coding improvements over the 3GL alternatives of Fortran, Cobol, or
PL/1, the movements to object orientation and outsourcing have stagnated
acceptance.

other history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramis_software
When Mathematica (also) makes Ramis available to TYMSHARE for their
VM370/CMS-based commercial online service, NCSS does their own version
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomad_software
and then follow-on FOCUS from IBI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCUS
Information Builders's FOCUS product began as an alternate product to
Mathematica's RAMIS, the first Fourth-generation programming language
(4GL). Key developers/programmers of RAMIS, some stayed with Mathematica
others left to form the company that became Information Builders, known
for its FOCUS product

4th gen programming language
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_programming_language

from another CP67/CMS spinoff in the 60s ... this mentions "first
financial language" at IDC
https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102658182
as an aside, a decade later, person doing FFL joins with another to form
startup and does the original spreadsheet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisiCalc

-- 
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

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  Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 20:26 +0000
    Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 13:43 -0700
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 13:03 -0800
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-25 21:06 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 13:22 -0800
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-25 21:40 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 23:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 15:19 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 23:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 15:57 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:51 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 01:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:37 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-27 08:03 -0800
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-27 17:44 +0000
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-27 18:54 +0000
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 03:00 +0000
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:32 +0000
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 17:51 +0000
                Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 21:32 +0000
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Alfred Falk <aefalk@telus.net> - 2025-03-07 04:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-07 13:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-03-07 06:46 -1000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-07 19:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-08 03:02 +0000
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-08 14:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-08 20:37 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-08 22:13 +0000
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 22:50 -0400
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-10 15:37 +0000
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 10:47 +0000
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 17:26 +0000
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:36 -0400
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 11:10 +0000
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-11 22:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:50 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 20:26 +0000
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                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-03-10 08:51 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-10 21:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:47 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:04 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-03-09 18:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 19:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 22:01 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 15:55 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 23:05 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 06:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 04:43 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 19:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 21:27 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 04:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 06:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-09 10:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:09 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-09 14:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:30 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-10 15:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:06 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 22:57 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 06:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 04:21 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:57 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 11:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 21:32 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 11:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 17:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-10 18:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 23:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:40 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 04:00 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 22:30 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-03-09 03:49 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 01:10 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:42 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 06:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-11 05:31 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-11 18:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-26 01:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-26 14:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-26 19:03 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:43 -0500
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-02-26 02:13 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 08:37 -0800
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-26 15:17 -0700
                Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-27 01:39 +0000
                Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 04:42 +0000
                Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 07:43 +0000
                Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:41 -0500
                Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:49 -0500
            Re: The joy of old small computers, which sort of ran FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-26 03:23 +0000
              Re: The joy of old small computers, which sort of ran FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-26 00:41 -0500
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 22:56 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:22 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-27 00:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 01:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 07:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 08:00 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 18:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:29 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 01:39 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 07:34 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 07:26 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:22 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 19:58 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-03-01 00:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:19 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 18:11 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 20:57 +0000
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                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-01 01:48 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-01 14:47 +0000
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                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-01 20:56 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-01 21:28 +0000
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                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-02 20:34 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:38 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-03 00:25 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 01:38 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-03 03:01 +0000
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                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 23:38 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 23:07 -0500
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                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-04 01:06 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:36 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-02 14:58 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:39 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-03 01:50 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 02:07 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-03 03:04 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-03 03:05 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-04 23:39 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-05 00:38 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-05 03:00 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-05 23:49 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-06 00:49 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-06 05:11 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-06 05:58 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-06 14:43 +0000
                Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-06 14:42 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 06:54 -0700
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 19:16 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 23:41 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-04 00:16 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 03:01 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 17:36 -0700
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 02:59 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 23:11 -0500
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 07:11 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-04 19:22 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:39 +0000
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:39 -0500
                Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 02:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:34 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 21:11 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-01 04:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-01 00:04 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 01:44 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 01:00 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 21:07 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:36 -0500
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-26 00:26 -0500
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:34 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-28 13:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-28 13:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-28 17:36 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-02-28 19:56 +0100
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 20:54 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 13:20 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 21:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 14:07 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 22:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-01 09:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:27 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 11:11 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-05 21:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 21:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 00:08 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-02 08:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-02 23:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 02:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 04:48 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-03 17:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 19:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 22:43 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 05:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 01:06 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 07:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 12:58 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 19:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 22:36 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 06:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 03:04 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 09:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-28 22:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:44 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 20:26 -0500
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-26 00:20 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-26 02:28 +0000
              CISC did not die in 1990 (was: Re: The joy of FORTRAN) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-26 14:01 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-02-25 16:59 -1000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-26 03:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-26 14:24 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-02-25 17:48 -1000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-26 04:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-26 15:17 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-26 23:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-02-27 21:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 02:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 12:42 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-02-28 13:08 -1000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 02:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-03-01 18:41 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-26 00:58 -0500
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-26 15:17 -0700
              Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-27 01:44 +0000
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 04:47 +0000
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-27 01:19 -0500
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:33 -0500
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-28 01:02 +0000
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 03:05 +0000
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 01:15 -0500
                Re: byte me, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 12:42 -0700
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 07:43 +0000
                Univac 1100/2200 Byte Size (Re: The joy of FORTRAN) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-27 19:27 +0000
                Re: Univac 1100/2200 Byte Size (Re: The joy of FORTRAN) David W Schroth <davidschroth@harrietmanor.com> - 2025-02-28 19:43 -0600
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 12:42 -0700
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-26 00:13 -0500
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 10:04 -0800
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-26 18:20 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 01:26 -0500
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-25 21:18 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-26 00:17 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-26 00:17 +0000
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 22:36 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2025-02-26 03:12 -0700
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-26 19:47 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-26 19:52 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-27 01:54 -0500
  Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-25 19:16 -0500
    Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-26 15:17 -0700
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-27 02:14 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-27 11:43 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 21:52 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 02:34 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 09:47 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-28 12:39 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 20:24 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-01 09:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 00:17 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-02 07:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 03:03 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-02 23:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 23:59 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 05:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-02 09:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-02 13:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-03 15:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 10:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-03 15:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 19:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 13:15 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 03:08 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-04 11:44 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-04 14:02 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 21:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 01:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-03-05 18:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-05 18:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-05 02:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-05 10:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 22:41 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 02:24 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 09:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 20:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-04 11:44 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-04 22:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 15:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-03 20:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 13:49 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-03 21:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 23:02 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 06:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 02:30 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 08:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 13:12 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 20:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 12:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 14:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 09:42 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 01:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-05 03:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 14:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 01:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 17:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-05 17:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 18:49 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-05 21:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 15:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 15:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-03-04 18:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 01:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 15:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:13 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-03 21:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-04 12:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 14:15 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 23:00 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 15:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 20:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 01:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-05 02:49 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-04 11:44 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-05 12:42 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-05 21:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 23:10 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 08:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:41 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:19 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 13:43 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 22:06 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 07:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-04 03:14 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-04 11:44 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-04 22:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-04 22:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 15:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 21:02 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 21:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-01 21:26 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 01:59 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-02 09:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 22:44 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 06:54 -0700
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-03 15:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-03 15:20 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-02 20:43 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-02 21:12 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:46 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 23:19 -0500
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 05:32 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 01:16 -0500
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-03 15:15 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-03 17:33 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 22:58 -0500
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 07:38 +0000
                Re: comments, The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-04 09:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-02 23:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-03 00:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-04 19:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-05 02:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-05 08:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-05 21:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-05 23:42 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-06 02:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-06 05:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-06 15:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-06 15:28 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-06 16:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-06 19:14 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-06 19:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-07 02:53 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-03-07 08:49 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-07 05:00 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-07 05:03 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-07 10:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-07 12:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-07 10:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-07 06:17 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-07 19:18 +0000
                Names of ancient computing devices [was:  Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-03-07 18:13 -0500
                Re: Names of ancient computing devices [was:  Re: The joy of FORTRAN] ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-07 23:26 +0000
                Re: Names of ancient computing devices [was:  Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-03-08 17:44 -0500
                Re: Names of ancient computing devices [was: Re: The joy of FORTRAN] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 00:37 -0500
                Re: Names of ancient computing devices [was:  Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
                Re: Names of ancient computing devices [was:  Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-03-09 21:50 -0400
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-07 12:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-06 07:52 -0800
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-28 17:58 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 17:47 -0700
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-01 04:35 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 11:15 -0800
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 12:42 -0700
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 20:50 +0000
      Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 07:43 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 08:04 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-27 04:37 -0500
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-27 12:04 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 21:39 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 01:19 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 07:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 07:55 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 09:42 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 20:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 21:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 14:16 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 22:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 15:35 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 02:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 23:02 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-01 05:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-01 02:49 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-01 08:04 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-01 23:43 -0500
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 12:36 -0800
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-01 21:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 20:35 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 09:48 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 02:21 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 02:16 +0000
        Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-27 04:30 -0500
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-27 12:00 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 18:39 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 21:50 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 02:24 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-28 17:58 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 21:43 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 02:28 +0000
          Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-27 14:08 +0000
            Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-02-27 14:03 -1000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 00:21 +0000
              Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-02-27 15:10 -1000

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