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Re: The joy of pipes

From Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: The joy of pipes
Date 2024-11-17 07:59 +0000
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:05:20 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 11/17/24 12:30 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:59:41 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/16/24 5:31 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>>>>
>>>> “Temporary files the parent can access” is not a good model for a
>>>> couple of reasons:
>>>>
>>>> * The semantics are different. Bytes read from a regular file are
>>>>   still there to be read again if you rewind the file; bytes read
>>>>   from a pipe are gone. Empty/full files behave differently to
>>>>   empty/full pipes.
>>>>
>>>> * Temporary regular files can already be accessed by other processes
>>>> by name, by file descriptor inheritance, or file descriptor passing.
>>>
>>> Didn't say temp disk files were necessarily SUPERIOR, just that they
>>> CAN do most of the stuff pipes are used for and in an easier
>>> user/code-friendly fashion.
>> 
>> Not really, no.
>> 
>>> SIZE is almost unlimited too.
>> 
>> That is another reason they don’t work.
> 
> It's a block of info, just by one means over another.

You’re forgetting the sequencing and synchronization aspects.

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