Re: The Tragedy Of systemd

From	Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: The Tragedy Of systemd
Date	2024-10-08 23:07 +0000
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On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 11:48:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> It is like a lot of software, ill thought out and ill advised and only
> there to stroke the ego of programmers.

    For a fast and efficient boot-up two things are crucial:

        To start less.
        And to start more in parallel.

    ...

    An init system that is responsible for maintaining services
    needs to listen to hardware and software changes.

    ...

    [I]s this kind of logic new? No, it certainly is not. The
    most prominent system that works like this is Apple’s
    launchd system ...

    -- Lennart Poettering, “Rethinking PID 1”
       <http://0pointer.net/blog/projects/systemd.html>

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The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-08 06:55 +0000
  Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-08 06:39 -0400
    Re: The Tragedy Of systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-08 11:48 +0100
      Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Phillip Frabott <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> - 2024-10-08 15:13 -0400
        Re: The Tragedy Of systemd not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-10-09 07:39 +1000
          Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Phillip Frabott <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> - 2024-10-08 20:57 -0400
            Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2024-10-08 21:52 -0400
              Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Phillip Frabott <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> - 2024-10-08 23:18 -0400
            Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-10-09 02:15 +0000
              Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Phillip Frabott <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> - 2024-10-08 23:23 -0400
              Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-09 04:58 +0000
              Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-10-09 07:53 +0200
                Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-09 11:36 +0100
                Re: The Tragedy Of systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-09 13:26 +0100
                Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-10 07:43 +0000
                Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-10 09:02 +0100
                Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-10-10 11:03 +0200
                Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-11 01:29 +0000
                Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-10 07:57 +0000
                Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-10-10 11:04 +0200
              Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-10-09 16:10 +0100
                Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-10 07:39 +0000
        Re: The Tragedy Of systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-09 07:40 +0100
          Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-10-10 08:29 +0200
            Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-10-10 07:45 +0100
          Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-10 07:40 +0000
      Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Phillip Frabott <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> - 2024-10-08 15:15 -0400
        Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-10-08 20:50 +0100
          Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-08 23:08 +0000
        Re: The Tragedy Of systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-08 20:38 +0000
          Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-08 23:09 +0000
            Re: The Tragedy Of systemd "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-09 00:10 -0400
            Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-09 10:50 +0100
              Re: The Tragedy Of systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-09 13:21 +0100
                Re: The Tragedy Of systemd D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-10-09 22:06 +0200
                Re: The Tragedy Of systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-10 10:17 +0100
                Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-10 07:45 +0000
              Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-10 07:44 +0000
          Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Phillip Frabott <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> - 2024-10-08 20:45 -0400
            Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-09 04:53 +0000
        Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-10-09 07:55 +0200
          Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Phillip Frabott <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> - 2024-10-09 02:07 -0400
            Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-10-10 08:30 +0200
              Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Phillip Frabott <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> - 2024-10-10 10:20 -0400
            Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-10 07:46 +0000
              Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-10-10 11:07 +0200
      Re: The Tragedy Of systemd Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-08 23:07 +0000

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