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Re: Trouble with laptop display

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Trouble with laptop display
Date 2025-07-18 21:18 +0200
Message-ID <v9jqklx8h2.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
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On 2025-07-18 14:29, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 18/07/2025 11:26, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-07-18 12:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 18/07/2025 08:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-07-17 20:56, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>> On 17/07/2025 19:29, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-07-17 20:04, VanguardLH wrote:
>>>>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.newegg.com/p/pl? 
>>>>>>> N=600514773%20100006740%204016%204823%20600004798%20600004804&d=laptop&Order=1
>>>>>>> short URL: https://tinyurl.com/usedlaps2newegg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't see someone watching a laptop while exercising on a 
>>>>>>> stationary
>>>>>>> bike needs to be doing word processing, graphical editing, or 
>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> of much strain on the hardware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small, 
>>>>>> Lenovo, fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I 
>>>>>> did not try on the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265. 
>>>>>> Some youtubes overload firefox on those machines and can't watch 
>>>>>> at full screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Its hard to get 4k on a lappy anyway - the pixels count is 
>>>>> generally too small.
>>>>
>>>> No, of course, the player (vlc normally) does a down conversion on 
>>>> the fly. With some files, the result is sound with no video.
>>>>
>>>>> I can confirm that intel integrated chipset on my HP will fill a 
>>>>> full HD screen (1920x 1080) at anyrate and keep up with U tube.
>>>>
>>>> My hardware has Intel inside, except the two recent incumbents: the 
>>>> main desktop machine and the normal laptops both have AMD and both 
>>>> cope very well.
>>>>
>>>> Intel does bad maintenance in Linux of some chipsets.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> U tube generally allows you to select non-4k though
>>>>
>>>> It was certainly using an adequate resolution for the display, but 
>>>> not copying well, it stutters with some videos.
>>>>
>>> Mmm. Got enough internet bandwidth?
>>
>> Fibre to the home, 1 gig. Also 1Gbit ethernet and switches.
>>
>>> Sometoimes pausing, and resuming allows the buffering to become larger
>>
>> No, it is the cpu not coping with the decoding.
>>
> What was the CPU, again? Ive not had that problem since the Pentium days 
> with no graphics card...
> 
> Well OK raspberry Pis suffer from it too, but I don't use them as 
> desktops,,,yet

Isengard:~ # inxi -C -GSaz --za --vs
inxi 3.3.31-00 (2023-11-02)
System:
   Kernel: 6.4.0-150600.23.53-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
     v: 7.5.0 clocksource: tsc available: acpi_pm
     parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.4.0-150600.23.53-default
     root=UUID=<filter> showopts splash=verbose resume=/dev/disk/by-label/Swap
     verbose mitigations=auto
   Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.43 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm
     v: 4.20.0 dm: 1: GDM v: 45.0.1 2: SDDM note: stopped
     Distro: openSUSE Leap 15.6
CPU:
   Info: model: Intel Pentium N3710 socket: BGA1155 bits: 64 type: MCP
     arch: Airmont level: v2 built: 2015-17 process: Intel 14nm family: 6
     model-id: 0x4C (76) stepping: 4 microcode: 0x411
   Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 224 KiB
     desc: d-4x24 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 2 MiB desc: 2x1024 KiB
   Speed (MHz): avg: 480 min/max: 480/2560 base/boost: 1600/2400 scaling:
     driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave volts: 1.2 V ext-clock: 80 MHz
     cores: 1: 480 2: 480 3: 480 4: 480 bogomips: 12800
   Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
   Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
   Device-1: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx
     Integrated Graphics vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: i915 v: kernel
     arch: Gen-8 process: Intel 14nm built: 2014-15 ports: active: HDMI-A-3
     empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0
     chip-ID: 8086:22b1 class-ID: 0300
   Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.1
     compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: intel dri: iris gpu: i915
     display-ID: localhost:10.0 screens: 1
   Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26")
     s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
   Monitor-1: HDMI-A-3 mapped: DVI-D-0 model: Samsung T22C350 built: 2012
     res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92 gamma: 1.2 size: 531x298mm (20.91x11.73")
     diag: 547mm (21.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
   API: OpenGL v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 23.3.4 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2
     direct-render: yes renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 17.0.6 128 bits)
     device-ID: ffffffff:ffffffff memory: 7.44 GiB unified: yes
   API: Vulkan v: 1.3.275 layers: 1 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: Intel
     HD Graphics 405 (BSW) driver: N/A device-ID: 8086:22b1 surfaces: xcb,xlib
   API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
Isengard:~ #


That's the mini-pc aka mini server machine, which I also use to watch videos in my computer room.
And below is the small Lenovo laptop in the sitting room:

Legolas:~ # inxi -C -GSaz --za --vs
inxi 3.3.38-00 (2025-04-06)
System:
   Kernel: 6.4.0-150600.23.38-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
     v: 7.5.0 clocksource: tsc avail: acpi_pm
     parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.4.0-150600.23.38-default
     root=UUID=<filter> resume=/dev/disk/by-label/Swap splash=verbose showopts
   Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.39 wm: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0
     with: xfce4-panel tools: xfce4-screensaver dm: GDM v: 45.0.1
     Distro: openSUSE Leap 15.6
CPU:
   Info: model: Intel Celeron N3060 socket: CHV bits: 64 type: MCP
     arch: Airmont level: v2 built: 2015-17 process: Intel 14nm family: 6
     model-id: 0x4C (76) stepping: 4 microcode: 0x411
   Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 2 cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache:
     L1: 112 KiB desc: d-2x24 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 2 MiB desc: 2x1024 KiB
   Speed (MHz): avg: 2160 min/max: 480/2480 base/boost: 1600/1660 scaling:
     driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave volts: 4.0 V ext-clock: 83 MHz
     cores: 1: 2160 2: 2160 bogomips: 6400
   Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
   Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
   Device-1: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx
     Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-8
     process: Intel 14nm built: 2014-15 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1,
     DP-2, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:22b1 class-ID: 0300
   Device-2: Bison Lenovo EasyCamera driver: uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.0
     speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-5:3 chip-ID: 5986:0673
     class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
   Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.1
     compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
     unloaded: fbdev,vesa alternate: intel dri: crocus gpu: i915
     display-ID: localhost:10.0 screens: 1
   Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26")
     s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
   Monitor-1: eDP-1 mapped: DVI-D-0 model: BOE Display 0x0608 built: 2014
     res: mode: 1920x1080 hz: 60 scale: 100% (1) dpi: 92 gamma: 1.2
     size: 531x298mm (20.91x11.73") diag: 300mm (11.8") ratio: 16:9
     modes: 1366x768
   API: OpenGL v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 23.3.4 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2
     direct-render: yes renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 17.0.6 128 bits)
     device-ID: ffffffff:ffffffff memory: 3.65 GiB unified: yes
   API: Vulkan v: 1.3.275 layers: 1 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: Intel
     HD Graphics 400 (BSW) driver: mesa intel v: 23.3.4 device-ID: 8086:22b1
     surfaces: xcb,xlib
   API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
   Info: Tools: api: glxinfo,vulkaninfo de: xfce4-display-settings
     x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Legolas:~ #



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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                Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-21 17:37 -0400
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                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 21:05 +0200
                Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:56 +0000
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                Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:22 +0200

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